new car orange peel

If it bothers you that much just get rid of the OP. Just know you won't have as much clear left to polish down the road. You need to decide which one is more important to you.
 
I recommend learning to live with the OP and putting a good sealant or coating on it. Keeping it cleaner than average will make it beautiful to 99% of the general population.
 
FUNX725 said:
^^^ I disagree ^^^

I'll again state:
Prep a vehicle, per the Coating manufacturer's
recommendations, for the best results.


Bob
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Sorry Bob, forgot to put a coma, what i meant was, he doesnt need to worry, since with proper prep before coating application, his car will still be shiny even in the presence of OP. :xyxthumbs:
 
Bluegoat said:
I'll have to say that a paint thickness gauge would be a cheap tool compared to the tools I buy and use every day.
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Something in the price range of the Apollo 17 Tool Kit
would be quite impressive.




An aside:
Imagine the soaking that taxpayers received, for having
to purchase that particular 10in. adjustable wrench!!


Bob
 
imo you can reduce factory peel...you don't have to remove it. that can make DOI much better. remember, the low points in the peel are...the low points, so imo if you reduce the contrast between the high points and low points, you'll still have more clear overall than what's present in the valleys but it will all look a lot better than if you left it alone.

when you are totally removing it, you are leveling to the level of the low points and that is what makes people uneasy and leaves less room for work down the road.

i prefer the happy medium approach.

OT but has anyone had a peeled finish look grainy after polishing (not leveling)? it's scary because you don't know if it's the clear being thin and the texture of the base presenting itself through the clear...or if it's just an effect of the peel being clarified, but not in a good way. even with a gauge on it, there's no way to tell which scenario is happening.
 
builthatch said:
even with a gauge on it, there's no way to tell which scenario is happening.
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That's another mighty fine reason to leave wet-sanding
OEM-orange peel, on a: DD-24/7...out of the equation.


Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
That's another mighty fine reason to leave wet-sanding
OEM-orange peel, on a: DD-24/7...out of the equation.


Bob
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agreed.

velvet pad is worth considering to make those really bad cases better but that's about as harsh as i'd ever consider for a daily driver, period.
 
builthatch said:
agreed.

velvet pad is worth considering to make those really bad cases better but that's about as harsh as i'd ever consider for a daily driver, period.
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IMO, using the Velvet pad on OEM paint with a DA is the worst option

Removes a fair amount of CC

Does not give the desired reduction in CC


You are better off using the Denim for 4-5 passes and calling it a day
 
allenk4 said:
IMO, using the Velvet pad on OEM paint with a DA is the worst option

Removes a fair amount of CC

Does not give the desired reduction in CC


You are better off using the Denim for 4-5 passes and calling it a day
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CarPro markets them for OEM finishes because they are less aggressive. so you prefer denim for OEM paint?
 
So let me ask this. Is there a way to determine how much clear coat only is on a car, or can you only measure clear coat plus paint?
 
Bluegoat said:
So let me ask this. Is there a way to determine how much clear coat only is on a car
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•I'm sure there are different pieces of equipment that uses destructive-means to measure a dry coating's thickness
(in this case: automotive clear-coat).

Bluegoat said:
or can you only measure clear coat plus paint?
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•There are many people (including myself) that will say that automotive Clear-coat is paint...having no pigments; and, hence, imparts no color to the car.


Bob
 
Bluegoat said:
So let me ask this. Is there a way to determine how much clear coat only is on a car, or can you only measure clear coat plus paint?
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there might be some gauge somewhere that can do it without damaging the sample, but right now the market leader is Defelsko and they do not have a gauge that can measure all layers individually on automotive metal. they do offer equipment that can do that on composites using ultrasound.
 
The clear will typically be half of the measurment. You can also mesure in the door jam. The clear is almost nil in this area so it will tell you how much pigment/primer will measure.
 
builthatch said:
CarPro markets them for OEM finishes because they are less aggressive. so you prefer denim for OEM paint?
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I have not used the Velvet, but IMO, if it cuts less than Denim, it would be too time consuming to utilized in OEM OP removal vs softer fresh paint
 
sweatthedetails said:
The clear will typically be half of the measurment. You can also mesure in the door jam. The clear is almost nil in this area so it will tell you how much pigment/primer will measure.
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The BC in my jambs is also very thin

If the CC is thin on the jambs....why would the BC thickness match the exterior panels (hood, doors) of the vehicle
 
Hi Kyle,

Thank you for your inquiry.

I would be happy to give you some more information about the PELT gauge. The cost of a PELT gauge with onsite training and calibrations is about $50,000.

Before I can formally quote you I need to know more information about your application.

Can you tell me a little more about your company and what your measurement needs are?

Best Regards,

Renée G. Basset

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The leading multi-layer coating thickness gauges
 
allenk4 said:
The BC in my jambs is also very thin

If the CC is thin on the jambs....why would the BC thickness match the exterior panels (hood, doors) of the vehicle
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Primer and color in the door jamb will be the same as on your hood, the clear is the only thing that is sprayed thinner in these areas.


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