Hydro2 vs Traditional AIO

DownSouthDetail said:
I've experienced streaking once and it was on a black car and I applied it in direct sun, which you shouldn't do. I also had it mixed at 3:1. Now, I like to mix it at 4:1 and I dont ever experience any streaking whatsoever and from what I've seen, it doesn't degrade the protection properties either.
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Interesting. Any direct sun insight for us mobile detailers?
 
Yep I can attest to the streaking on black cars when used in the sun.

Some members here have suggested to spray some diluted hydro2 directly onto streaks and should wipe off with a MF towel. You'd need to do this immediately to not allow it to cure
 
The Critic said:
Hydro2 is a wash/seal. The problem with Hydro is that it doesn't fill enough for most cars, and the level of slickness is not at the level that most discerning customers expect.
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I find this very funny really for any sealant to bond to paint its needs to be free of contaminants so you should clay before sealing any care if it needs it. Then you will get the slickness your looking for. You should know slickness comes from clean uncontaminated paint and not just the sealant.
 
DownSouthDetail said:
I've experienced streaking once and it was on a black car and I applied it in direct sun, which you shouldn't do. I also had it mixed at 3:1. Now, I like to mix it at 4:1 and I dont ever experience any streaking whatsoever and from what I've seen, it doesn't degrade the protection properties either.
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Ok, thanks a lot. I mixed 3:1 as well. I guess I have to add more water then. Thanks again.
 
Pureshine said:
I find this very funny really for any sealant to bond to paint its needs to be free of contaminants so you should clay before sealing any care if it needs it. Then you will get the slickness your looking for. You should know slickness comes from clean uncontaminated paint and not just the sealant.
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Of course, but the level of slickness will vary significantly depending on the product used.

I've noticed much great slickness with most spray sealants (versus Hydro2).
 
The hydro2 'type' product is superb. There is truth in it not doing any filling and the car pro product does work out expensive. The style of product should actually work out very economical.
 
I agree that cost per application might be a little more expensive than a spray wax, but in comparison to an AIO, I feel like it might end up cheaper. - no need to purchase pads, pad cleaner, time spent cleaning pads, wear on polishers and backing plates, etc. plus the time savings will add up in a hurry.

Todd- from what I can tell from your site, it looks like you do a really good wash and clay before applying Hydro2 in your Exterior package. Is this correct as for prep, or did I miss something on there?
 
jarred767 said:
I agree that cost per application might be a little more expensive than a spray wax, but in comparison to an AIO, I feel like it might end up cheaper. - no need to purchase pads, pad cleaner, time spent cleaning pads, wear on polishers and backing plates, etc. plus the time savings will add up in a hurry.

Todd- from what I can tell from your site, it looks like you do a really good wash and clay before applying Hydro2 in your Exterior package. Is this correct as for prep, or did I miss something on there?
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I do not for a second think hydro2 can replace an AIO. It has no ability to either correct or fill, two things that are central to an AIO. If you have a swirled finish, you still need polishing machines and accessories.
 
I just bought the $100 bottle of hydro 2. I'm just using it for my car. Even if it only lasts a couple of months it's worth the time savings. My question, is the force of the jet setting on a hose strong enough for hydro 2
 
PiPUK said:
I do not for a second think hydro2 can replace an AIO. It has no ability to either correct or fill, two things that are central to an AIO. If you have a swirled finish, you still need polishing machines and accessories.
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...if you want swirls removed. The vast majority of people out there want a clean and shiny car. (And that's where the money is at least in my market). If they're gonna wash it at the local car wash after you leave, why spend all the time getting rid if the swirls (if they don't care and aren't paying for it)

I offer polishing and/or paint correction followed by traditional sealant packages for people that want them (and appreciate them) but I kinda feel like time and money is wasted doing an all-in-one for someone who can't tell a swirl from a squirrel.
 
jarred767 said:
...The vast majority of people out there want a clean and shiny car. (And that's where the money is at least in my market). If they're gonna wash it at the local car wash after you leave, why spend all the time getting rid if the swirls (if they don't care and aren't paying for it)
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If that's the case, why not just use a time and money-saving product like: Meguiar's Ultimate Wash & Wax?
It'll get into all of the same vehicle cavities as Hydro2.


Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
If that's the case, why not just use a time and money-saving product like: Meguiar's Ultimate Wash & Wax?
It'll get into all of the same vehicle cavities as Hydro2.


Bob
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I've personally never heard anyone compare the protective qualities, beeding, shine, or durability of the two products, but if someone did, I would guess Hydro2 outperforms any W&W. Just my guess though....
 
jarred767 said:
I've personally never heard anyone compare the protective qualities, beeding, shine, or durability of the two products, but if someone did, I would guess Hydro2 outperforms any W&W. Just my guess though....
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In reality...one way or t'other:
What difference would that make to the below
aforementioned Customers of yours?

jarred767 said:
...The vast majority of people out there want a clean and shiny car. (And that's where the money is at least in my market). If they're gonna wash it at the local car wash after you leave, why spend all the time getting rid if the swirls (if they don't care and aren't paying for it)
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Bob
 
jarred767 said:
...if you want swirls removed. The vast majority of people out there want a clean and shiny car. (And that's where the money is at least in my market). If they're gonna wash it at the local car wash after you leave, why spend all the time getting rid if the swirls (if they don't care and aren't paying for it)

I offer polishing and/or paint correction followed by traditional sealant packages for people that want them (and appreciate them) but I kinda feel like time and money is wasted doing an all-in-one for someone who can't tell a swirl from a squirrel.
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My point was that you should not compare hydro2 to an AIO process. The comparison, at best, should be to a spray wax or sealant. As such, consideration of pads and such is moot.

Has anyone actually checked the 'need' for high pressure to activate? As a scientist, this strikes as marketing words. I know that our comparable product has no need - the stuff only needs to sniff the paint and it will be bonded and 'activated'.
 
Hydro2 is a great product but it's finicky from experience. I've never had issues with it on wheels but paint is another beast.

You need to do an IPA wipedown prior to using hydro2 so the surface is completely clean. I've had hydro2 streak following the instructions without the IPA wipedown on dark vehicles, which in order to remove needs polishing.

Personally for me the quickest way to seal a vehicle after being washed and clayed is Opti-Seal, then I do a quick wipe down with Optimum Car Wax prior to the customer picking up the vehicle.

If the IPA wipedown wasn't needed for using hydro2 then it would be a HUGE time saver, but for me due to the hit or miss streaking, it's not worth the risk. Maybe I'm misinformed?
 
I've spent a ton of time this weekend reading just about every thread on here and other forums about Hydro2. The more I read, the more I feel like I just have to try it out for myself and see how I like it. Planning on doing a few test cars before making any hard, fast decisions, but from what I hear from many, for a simple wash/clay/sealant package, it's tough to beat.

I'll admit, I probably miss-titled this thread as it doesn't compare to what an AIO does, but for a customer looking for a great finished product that will protect their car on a budget (especially one who's not concerned with swirl removal) this seems like it definitely fits the bill.

I'll post more once I've had some direct experience with the product, but thanks for everyone thoughts and suggestions so far.
 
jarred767 said:
Planning on doing a few test cars before making any hard, fast decisions, but from what I hear from many, for a simple wash/clay/sealant package, it's tough to beat.
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I'd be concerned about not removing the marring instilled by Claying---then going ahead and Sealing that in...along with any other paint blemishes such as swirling.


Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
I'd be concerned about not removing the marring instilled by Claying---then going ahead and Sealing that in...along with any other paint blemishes such as swirling.


Bob
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With traditional clay, yes. I've switched to the Nanoskin Mitt Nanoskin AutoScrub Fine Grade Wash Mitt and use with fresh clean wash water and haven't had any marring issues when giving cars a once over with it after a full and extensive wash. Just my experience though.
 
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