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Hello guys! it's been a while since i posted on here and i am in need of some serious help!! So i've had my wrx for a year now and this past December after washing my car when the weather got warm, I washed my car and then noticed these really weird spots ONLY on the horizontal panels... the hood,roof, and a little on the trunk.
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i have tried tarminator to no solution. i tried using iron X, or the variant i received from another company for free (the new Optimum FerreX iron remover) , clay bar.
I have not tried polishing yet, should i try that? i have orange,white pads, and 105/205 combo. Let me know ! thanks for all the help guys!
 
May try wash follow by fine clay and M205 polish. Hope this help :)
 
May try wash follow by fine clay and M205 polish. Hope this help :)

:iagree:

This sounds like a plan to me. I wouldn't rush into any compounding without going for a fine polish - like M205, Pinnacle Advanced Finishing polish etc - maybe the guys that use Menzerna will be able to chime in here too?

Good luck - let us know how you get on mate.

Aaryn NZ. :xyxthumbs:
 
May try wash follow by fine clay and M205 polish. Hope this help :)

:iagree:

This sounds like a plan to me. I wouldn't rush into any compounding without going for a fine polish - like M205, Pinnacle Advanced Finishing polish etc - maybe the guys that use Menzerna will be able to chime in here too?

Good luck - let us know how you get on mate.

Aaryn NZ. :xyxthumbs:

I really appreciate the quick responses guys! gives me hope that someone has actually seen something like this before! LOL! i clean my car once a week (or at least try to) so i cleaned it and now the car is currently covered up, but tomorrow noon i will break out the polisher and try a white pad, 205 combo. Hopefully i won't annoy everyone in my apartments! LOL! i may do the trunk first for test spot!
 
I've seen more than worst here...
:D

Kind regards

hahaha! so this isn't even bad yet, is what you're saying? hahah! thanks! i may contact my uncle tomorrow to borrow his garage. but i'll see. if not I'm definitely using the outside of my apartment complex.
 
hahaha! so this isn't even bad yet, is what you're saying? hahah! thanks! i may contact my uncle tomorrow to borrow his garage. but i'll see. if not I'm definitely using the outside of my apartment complex.


I only wish the cars I worked on looked like yours. Lol
As said, try the m205 first, you can always work yourself up.
Just from looking at the picture it seems it would easily buff out.
 
Just curious, can you feel them when doing 'the baggie test?'
 
I only wish the cars I worked on looked like yours. Lol
As said, try the m205 first, you can always work yourself up.
Just from looking at the picture it seems it would easily buff out.
hahahaah! definitely making me feel better seeing that!!
Just curious, can you feel them when doing 'the baggie test?'

yes i can!
 
so a couple minutes ago i wanted to test this out so i did a quick waterless wash on my trunk because i had already washed it yesterday, and then i did the baggie test again and felt all those little bumps, it was about to rain here in san jose so i couldn't even break out the polisher in my apartment complex. i just grabbed a white pad and slapped some 205 on it. i can say just from the little test spot it will definitely look better! but who knows. have to break out the polisher on it before i can report back any real results! looks like i'll have to wait until tuesday because thats the only day I'm available :p ..
 
I washed my car and then noticed these really weird spots ONLY on the horizontal panels... the hood,roof, and a little on the trunk.

I have not tried polishing yet, should i try that?

i have orange,white pads, and 105/205 combo. Let me know ! thanks for all the help guys!

Sounds like something in the air landed on the paint and now it's time to hit it with the M105 followed by M205 and the seal her up with an LSP.


:)
 
hmm... got some frustrating results guys :( i tried the 105 w/ an orange pad then followed by 205 white pad. it removed a bit but i am still able to see it on the paint :(... anybody here in san jose have any other methods they can possibly try to help me out, or am i doing something wrong??? thanks! i really appreciate all the input!
 
What polisher and how many passes are you making?
 
What polisher and how many passes are you making?

i tried it on the griots garage 6 and made about 4 passes ( cross hatch = 1 pass the way i counted it[up down left ,right=1 not that exact way but you get my idea i think] am i not putting enough pressure possibly ?
 
i tried it on the griots garage 6 and made about 4 passes ( cross hatch = 1 pass the way i counted it[up down left ,right=1 not that exact way but you get my idea i think] am i not putting enough pressure possibly ?

I'd suggest 6 passes, apply medium pressure on the first 2-3 passes then gradually let up on pressure. What brand Orange pad GG? I know M105 has more than enough cut to remove what's in the pic...
 
lake country flat pad was the brand name , hmm may be my technique i believe is where i am lacking. i'll try again tomorrow and do 6 passes on speed 6 with medium pressure where the pad is spinning medium speed? not too slow and not stopped?
 
Ok so you have the right pad. When you used the Optimum FerreX, how long did you let it sit and did you agitate with a sponge? Does it feel like those spots are above surface - as in you can feel it with your fingernail?
 
Ok so you have the right pad. When you used the Optimum FerreX, how long did you let it sit and did you agitate with a sponge? Does it feel like those spots are above surface - as in you can feel it with your fingernail?

i let it sit for approximately a minute and yes, i agitated with a wash mitt! i can't really feel the spots on the surface at all! it feels completely smooth (bare hand that is ) i can't catch it with my finger nail either :/
 
Man, I really hate to see this happen to folks. especially someone who clearly cares about and takes care of their vehicle like you do. I am by no means an expert, but I have had my troubles with paint, so here is my two cents. it looks like something corrosive landed on your paint. who knows how deep it is or how it may have chemically altered it. I hate to say it but at this point I would check my insurance policy and or call the company you may need... Gulp, a respray. I truly hope not, I hope you're polishing works for you. Good luck.
 
lake country flat pad was the brand name ,

Was it the thin 5.5" pad or the thick 6.5" pad?

It's just thin pads rotate better than thick large pads on tools like these and in order to REMOVE PAINT the pad MUST ROTATE. That's a fact.

The way you remove ANY below surface defect is to remove enough paint off the surface to level the surface with the lowest depth of the defects you're trying to remove.

Thus removing defects means removing paint and this is why it's so HARD to remove swirls and scratches or any type of below surface defect by hand and that's because back in the 1980's the paints changed and we went from single stage paints (soft except white), to basecoat/clearcoat paints which are basically no longer paint but a type of hard, clear plastic.

Here's what you need to do....

Video: Mark your backing plate to make it easy to see pad rotation


MarkYourBackingPlate01.jpg


Here's a quick video that show how and why to mark your backing plate to see and monitor pad rotation while doing any correction or polishing steps.

[video=youtube_share;QM8PnDooZP8&hd=1"]How To Check Pad Rotation on a DA Polisher -...[/video]​





hmm may be my technique i believe is where i am lacking.

i'll try again tomorrow and do 6 passes on speed 6 with medium pressure where the pad is spinning medium speed?

not too slow and not stopped?


Exactly. I would call it FIRM pressure instead of medium pressure but do make sure the pad is rotating.

This video is from 2009, pretty much any other video showing this is a copy of this because I wrote the definition for the term "Section Pass". As well as made the first video showing how to make section passes. No one ever gives due credit in the online world though everyone just copies and regurgitates.


First here's the definition of a section pass.

Mike Phillips said:
The definition of a pass
There are two definitions of the word pass as it relates to machine polishing with any type of machine.


Single Pass
A single pass is just that. It's when you move the polisher from one side of the section you're buffing to the other side of the section you're buffing. That's a single pass.


Section Pass
A section pass is when you move the polisher back and forth, or front to back with enough single overlapping passes to cover the entire section one time. That's a section pass.

In most cases if you're removing any substantial below surface defects you're going to make 6-8 section passes to the section you’re working before you either feel comfortable you've removed the defects or you're at the end of the buffing cycle for the product you're using.



And watch this 6 year old video...

How to do a Section Pass
[video=youtube_share;Q70g83mnTn4"]Section Pass by Mike Phillips[/video]​


:)
 
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