PE-8 learning curve

Holograms are not a mith, but you can get rid of them. Using a rotary isn't a big deal. I've been finishing black and dark colors with rotary long before I got my LHR21. You have to get a feel for the rotary before you atempt to finish with it but it isn't impossible.
And for those out there that are freaking out about leaving holograms when you compound, I have a question...Do you finish with a compound? Get the Meg's 205 with a soft pad, turn the machine down to 800 rpm (even 1000 rpm works), light pressure and you're set! :) and after the 205 if you don't like the finish, get out the 3M ultrafina with the blue 3M pad and go over it again. That's the whole deal with finishing.
Happy detailing!
 
flesty said:
Holograms are not a mith, but you can get rid of them. Using a rotary isn't a big deal. I've been finishing black and dark colors with rotary long before I got my LHR21. You have to get a feel for the rotary before you atempt to finish with it but it isn't impossible.
And for those out there that are freaking out about leaving holograms when you compound, I have a question...Do you finish with a compound? Get the Meg's 205 with a soft pad, turn the machine down to 800 rpm (even 1000 rpm works), light pressure and you're set! :) and after the 205 if you don't like the finish, get out the 3M ultrafina with the blue 3M pad and go over it again. That's the whole deal with finishing.
Happy detailing!
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Thank you for this response!! I only said Myth because I was very scared working on my 1st rotary. However, it was very easy to adapt and realize what you need to do to not cause holograms. I said it was a myth to all the people that are scared of the rotary. I was one of them!!...LOL When I heard rotary...the 1st thought in my mind is hologram! Not the case anymore after experiencing the PE8.

I do agree with the wrong technique you can cause holograms with a rotary and use can burn the paint with any DA or rotary if your technique sucks!

I am just responding to all the threads saying how bad a rotary is in general. With sound technique you can avoid holograms with a rotary.

But thank you for coming to defence regarding a rotary. I am now in the camp where a rotary is not bad if you have sound technique.

Way cool response!!
 
Kamakaz1961 said:
But thank you for coming to defence regarding a rotary. I am now in the camp where a rotary is not bad if you have sound technique.




Not trying to be belligerent, but comparing the PE8 (mini rotary) to full blown rotary is like night and day. Just because you can use the PE8 with a 3",2", or 1" pad is far from using a wool pad with a heavy compound.

Edit: The PE8 is a great machine for tight areas that a regular rotary can't get to. Good addition to anyone's arsenal.
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It is completely possible to finish down with a rotary. It all depends on your definition of holograms.

If you're speaking of the things you see in the mall parking lot, it is absolutely possible to finish at a higher level than that.

I've finished several large dark colored cars with a rotary (flex vvb). Using the rotary is not for one stage DA style correction. Wool + compound to knock out the correctable defects and then stepping down to a soft pad and fine polish. In my experience, 3 steps are needed but I am not just switching compounds to Menzerna so this knowledge may change.

You will have a **very** shallow scratch pattern that rotary polishing does impart. These in my experience are microscopic.

In the past, I used wool + 105, orange/white + 205, blue + ultrafina. I look forward to getting familiar using fg400, sip, and sg4000 with the rotary. I've switched to FLEX for my DA but it is still much faster for me a majority of the time to correct with the rotary and finish up with the DA.

I will stop rambling.
 
Mike@DedicatedPerfection said:
OP, did you decide what you wanted to do?
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In the end I decided on the Rupes Mini, but will probably find myself with a PE-8 after selling a few more things on eBay. I just know how to use a Rupes since I have a 21 and have no problem keeping the pad spinning. I do like that I can use 1 and 2" pads on the PE-8 which is why I'll probably wind up with it but I think this was the best thing for me for now. I do appreciate everybody's help and input! It's greatly appreciated!


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fotomatt1 said:
In the end I decided on the Rupes Mini, but will probably find myself with a PE-8 after selling a few more things on eBay. I just know how to use a Rupes since I have a 21 and have no problem keeping the pad spinning. I do like that I can use 1 and 2" pads on the PE-8 which is why I'll probably wind up with it but I think this was the best thing for me for now. I do appreciate everybody's help and input! It's greatly appreciated!


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Good choice, you will love it...my favorite machine.:props:
 
Rsurfer said:
Kamakaz1961 said:
But thank you for coming to defence regarding a rotary. I am now in the camp where a rotary is not bad if you have sound technique.




Not trying to be belligerent, but comparing the PE8 (mini rotary) to full blown rotary is like night and day. Just because you can use the PE8 with a 3",2", or 1" pad is far from using a wool pad with a heavy compound.

Edit: The PE8 is a great machine for tight areas that a regular rotary can't get to. Good addition to anyone's arsenal.
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You don't have to get a full blown rotary anymore. Indeed, you can hurt the paint and yourself with those. I truly respect the oldschool detailers that had to work with those monsters. Imagine working on the lower parts of the car, holding all that weight with your back bent for hours or holding it above the hood or the roof, barely touching the paint for the finishing part, high speed spinning...
Now we can work with the smaller, lighter formats with ease, machines capable of very low speeds. The modern rotary is a breeze to work with :) it is a cute puppy compared to the old school monsters that you had to tame back in the day
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