Gov Brown announces sweeping new water restriction measures

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For California's car owners, rinseless and waterless washing will be even more important.
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Water is going to be an on going problem for California and Nevada as well as a few other states.

You all know the term, Black Gold. It means crude oil.

Here's a new term for the future... Blue Gold.



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They should've taken a page from Australia's book years ago and invested in desalination.

I've always thought huge populations in the desert were just a testament to man's ignorance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdg8_g4YIF4
 
ryandamartini said:
They should've taken a page from Australia's book years ago and invested in desalination.
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Cali has a few existing desalination plants, a billion dollar facility will soon open in San Diego and approximately 12 plants are in proposal.

In the meantime, many counties have restrictions on lawn sprinklers, washing cars, and even filling your pool. A few years ago, city code enforcement gave me a warning for washing my car.
 
I have changed my way of washing a car to rinseless wash. I do a slightly different spin, however, the jist is a rinseless wash.

There are even car wash monitors to snoop and make sure we are all in compliance. A hose and 2-bucket wash and foam gun is now a no-no.

Santa Barbara is now re-opening their defunct desalination plant. To show you government waste, the project was about 75% done but the community balked at how much they would have to pay for water.....

Oh well, it's just as good as the $26 BILLION high speed rail project from LA to San Francisco. People are gonna flock to that!

I just love liberals!
 
It's been a problem for a long time. Fines are pretty normal if washing or watering on days not designated for water use. I rinseless more often then not so it's not too bad for me to begin with.
 
It's a completely solvable problem, the certain political mindsets among the populace just won't accept it.

Desalination. There are literally trillions of gallons of water begging to be used, but very little being done about it.
 
VP Mark said:
It's a completely solvable problem, the certain political mindsets among the populace just won't accept it.

Desalination. There are literally trillions of gallons of water begging to be used, but very little being done about it.
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Totally agree with you!! Unfortunately Gov Brown would rather spend BILLIONS on the high speed rail to LA and San Fran
 
Kamakaz1961 said:
I have changed my way of washing a car to rinseless wash. I do a slightly different spin, however, the jist is a rinseless wash.

There are even car wash monitors to snoop and make sure we are all in compliance. A hose and 2-bucket wash and foam gun is now a no-no.

Santa Barbara is now re-opening their defunct desalination plant. To show you government waste, the project was about 75% done but the community balked at how much they would have to pay for water.....

Oh well, it's just as good as the $26 BILLION high speed rail project from LA to San Francisco. People are gonna flock to that!

I just love liberals!
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I live in the Bay Area where everything is liberal & progressive. If you even as much as disagree with anything they say, you are labeled a "racist" or "bigot" before you can even give the reason why you disagree. Very unpleasant people to be around to talk about anything that has to do with government. Unfortunately for me, I don't share the idea of living in Utopia.
 
VP Mark said:
It's a completely solvable problem, the certain political mindsets among the populace just won't accept it.

Desalination. There are literally trillions of gallons of water begging to be used, but very little being done about it.
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yep. it's a racket.
 
I thought this was a detailing forum.. not a forum for expert political analyses
 
VP Mark said:
It's a completely solvable problem, the certain political mindsets among the populace just won't accept it.

Desalination. There are literally trillions of gallons of water begging to be used, but very little being done about it.
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builthatch said:
yep. it's a racket.
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It's not really that simple is it? It takes a large amount of energy to desalinate water, and expensive facilities, which is why it's not routinely done. The San Diego plant which is close to being done cost $1 billion and will only supply 50 million gallons a day...which sounds like a lot except that CA uses 38 BILLION gallons a day.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
It's not really that simple is it? It takes a large amount of energy to desalinate water, and expensive facilities, which is why it's not routinely done. The San Diego plant which is close to being done cost $1 billion and will only supply 50 million gallons a day...which sounds like a lot except that CA uses 38 BILLION gallons a day.
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when you have no water, cheap or otherwise, you have to look at the alternatives. we need water to live. it's good to balk at the expense of old tech desal, but it works and expensive water is better than no water.

CA has plants they don't even use. instead of preempting these dire situations and assure reservoirs and such are filled, meanwhile preserving something that is so limited - natural fresh water - they wait until it's a real emergency and people are desperate.
 
Coal; Oil; Natural Gas: Fossil Fuels.
We are suppose to be running out of Fossil Fuels.
Diesel fuel/Gasoline/etc...Any alternatives?

Remember the soon-to-be-coming "Hydrogen Society"?
How has that progressed? Dire need hasn't arrived yet.


Speaking of Hydrogen:
Hydrogen = Water-creator (Gr.)
When hydrogen burns, water is the by-product.

Let's see:
If the equivalent of ~900,000 hydrogen-filled
Hindenburg Zepplins could be burned within
California-proper's tropospheric layer:

There would be 38 billion gallons of water created.



Bob
 
The thread was intended as a testament to the growing importance and significance of waterless car washing in drought stricken areas. The intent was not political.
 
I still won't use waterless.

I use less water washing a car than a typical person does taking a shower.
 
I'm not sure what the gov. imposed exactly, regard specifics. The AG Calif. guys/gals are going to end up being pulled over for violating water restrictions, etc. Their cars are too clean.

Why haven't we explored desalination projects. We have all the ocean waters, just filter/sterilize and remove the salt and impurities.
 
builthatch said:
when you have no water, cheap or otherwise, you have to look at the alternatives. we need water to live. it's good to balk at the expense of old tech desal, but it works and expensive water is better than no water.

CA has plants they don't even use. instead of preempting these dire situations and assure reservoirs and such are filled, meanwhile preserving something that is so limited - natural fresh water - they wait until it's a real emergency and people are desperate.
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MI Mike said:
Why haven't we explored desalination projects. We have all the ocean waters, just filter/sterilize and remove the salt and impurities.
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I think the part you guys are missing is the scale of the problem--the desalination plant they are building in San Diego, forgetting the cost and the power requirements and the 3 years to build it, will only provide 0.13 percent of the state's water needs.

So they would have to build ~190 similar plants just to achieve the 25 percent reduction that the governor strives to achieve with his measures yesterday, or ~750 plants to provide all the water. That's a lot of $, a lot of oceanfront real estate, a lot of power, a lot of pipelines, a lot of eminent domain. Might be a trillion dollars, no problem for a state that was essentially bankrupt a few years ago. Huh?
 
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