Captains boat coating?

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Saw this in Mike's thread on his recent boat detailing class. Any info on this stuff?


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We used it in the class went on very very easy. It is designed to work on porous gel coat and nick said they are expecting at least 18 months of durability I'm sure he will chime in. Said it would be available in two weeks so next week now and between 49-59 dollars. I plan on buying it for our hells bay to try and keep the brown from building up from backcountry fishing.
 
SUPER interested in this stuff. Can't wait to hear more about it and hear some real world tests
 
Nice! I'm interested as well..

How much product was used on the boat you were working on?
 
Two new Marine 31 products were introduced at the Boat Detailing Class last Saturday....

Captain's Boat Coating with UV50

Clear Vinyl Restorer & Protectant

Both will be available for sale by the weekend at the latest. :dblthumb2:

Kengo123 said:
Nice! I'm interested as well..

How much product was used on the boat you were working on?
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The boat for the class was 26 feet and we used about 1.5-2 ounces of product, and we applied it liberally. I'm confident we could have gotten by with just an ounce.

Captain's Boat Coating will be available exclusively in an 8 oz. size - no small toy jars for this coating. ;)
 
Has there been much real world testing on it? What is expected for longevity and how well does it shed scum off the bottom of the boat?

My boat isn't bad since it isn't kept in the water, but my in laws keep theirs in a slip in Wisconsin all summer. They've got a red stripe and some trim that fades to chalk in no time at all on the side that faces the sun. Will this coating help much?
 
Ok Nick, I have to ask this, because we know someone is going to try it...what happens if you use this on a car?

After all, we know there are some marine products that auto enthusiasts use regularly (DG501 comes to mind) and of course in the old days when you couldn't buy Collinite here at AG, where did you go to get some?--the boat store! Not to mention you might see FK1000 there.
 
House of Wax said:
Has there been much real world testing on it? What is expected for longevity and how well does it shed scum off the bottom of the boat?

My boat isn't bad since it isn't kept in the water, but my in laws keep theirs in a slip in Wisconsin all summer. They've got a red stripe and some trim that fades to chalk in no time at all on the side that faces the sun. Will this coating help much?
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Plenty of real world testing (we have a massive marina next door to us after all). It makes the boat VERY easy to clean - hardly anything will stick to it.

Setec Astronomy said:
Ok Nick, I have to ask this, because we know someone is going to try it...what happens if you use this on a car?

After all, we know there are some marine products that auto enthusiasts use regularly (DG501 comes to mind) and of course in the old days when you couldn't buy Collinite here at AG, where did you go to get some?--the boat store! Not to mention you might see FK1000 there.
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Gel coat is far more porous than paint, and that was considered during the formulation of Captain's Boat Coating. You can use it on automotive paint, but you'll find that it tends to smear when you level any high spots. When used on gel coat it's a breeze to apply. :dblthumb2:
 
Nick@Autogeek said:
Gel coat is far more porous than paint, and that was considered during the formulation of Captain's Boat Coating. You can use it on automotive paint, but you'll find that it tends to smear when you level any high spots. When used on gel coat it's a breeze to apply. :dblthumb2:
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I figured it was tuned for the intended application...but I had to ask!
 
Nick@Autogeek said:
Plenty of real world testing (we have a massive marina next door to us after all). It makes the boat VERY easy to clean - hardly anything will stick to it.



Gel coat is far more porous than paint, and that was considered during the formulation of Captain's Boat Coating. You can use it on automotive paint, but you'll find that it tends to smear when you level any high spots. When used on gel coat it's a breeze to apply. :dblthumb2:
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Any thoughts in regards to my second question? (Issues with red fading)
 
House of Wax said:
Any thoughts in regards to my second question? (Issues with red fading)
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Oops! If it fades quickly (within 3-4 weeks) after compounding/polishing/waxing, then the surface is unstable and beyond the point of being "sealed." The coating will not help.
 
Nick@Autogeek said:
Oops! If it fades quickly (within 3-4 weeks) after compounding/polishing/waxing, then the surface is unstable and beyond the point of being "sealed." The coating will not help.
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Could you expand on this a bit? Just trying to educate myself here....is there a point where a boat has spent enough time in the sun that it "degrades" (for lack of a better term) the gelcoat/color below the outside surface that is exposed to the sun?

So let's say we compound and polish..... we're removing the layer that's faded and oxidized essentially exposing a "fresh" layer of gelcoat/color. Is there a reason at that point it wouldn't accept this coating or a wax. Or maybe a better question is, is it unreasonable to expect any product to maintain the color if the boat is sitting in the water 24/7 over the course of a summer.


Thanks for the feedback
 
House of Wax said:
Could you expand on this a bit? Just trying to educate myself here....is there a point where a boat has spent enough time in the sun that it "degrades" (for lack of a better term) the gelcoat/color below the outside surface that is exposed to the sun?

So let's say we compound and polish..... we're removing the layer that's faded and oxidized essentially exposing a "fresh" layer of gelcoat/color. Is there a reason at that point it wouldn't accept this coating or a wax. Or maybe a better question is, is it unreasonable to expect any product to maintain the color if the boat is sitting in the water 24/7 over the course of a summer.


Thanks for the feedback
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Think of it as clear coat failure - once it starts, you can't fix it. The obvious sign of, let's call it "gel coat failure" is when you meticulously compound, polish and wax it (thus creating a smooth, glossy finish) only to have it oxidize and fade again in a matter of weeks. The gel coat itself is unstable, and cannot remain clear and glossy for more than a week or two.
 
Good stuff, thanks for the responses. Will probably have to check this stuff out on our boat when it gets released. Can't wait to hear from others that have used it/will use it
 
One last question I swear.....do you believe or have your tests shown this coating to protect better than wax against U.V. rays/oxidation?
 
Nick@Autogeek said:
Gel coat is far more porous than paint, and that was considered during the formulation of Captain's Boat Coating. You can use it on automotive paint, but you'll find that it tends to smear when you level any high spots. When used on gel coat it's a breeze to apply. :dblthumb2:
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I purchased the Captain's Coating since I've been pleased with other Marine 31 products. My new to me boat was painted with Imron paint by a previous owner and the coating smeared as Nick described and was a lot of work to remove. I probably had to use more product than normally needed due to it smearing and drying too fast. I completed both sides of the boat, but I don't want to go through all that work for the interior and bottom. Any recommendations for an equivalent coating that will be easier to apply on Imron paint?
 
Dufrsp31 said:
Any recommendations for an equivalent coating that will be easier to apply on Imron paint?
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Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Paint Coating.

For best results with any coating you're going to want to start with a clean, fresh base.

I suspect that sine Imron is a catalyzed paint, a paint coating will be a better match even though you're working on a boat.

What kind of boat?
What color?

:)
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
What kind of boat?
What color?

:)
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Hi Mike,

The boat is a 23' Contender and the sides are black. I did a test spot with the Captain's coating on the bottom which is a light sea foam color and had the same smearing results. I have lots of time put into cleaning up this boat and correcting the surfaces prior to applying the Captain's coating. The boat had lots of orange peel from the paint job and oxidation on the top sides from lack of proper care. After all the wet sanding and buffing, I really want maximum protection to minimize how often I need to polish her up.
 
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