Griot's Garage NEW BOSS Paint Polishing System

Got my 15mm BOSS today and worked on a couple sections of single stage repaint on an old GTI. The prep work and the quality of the paint job itself is a bit of a mess and there isn't a lot of hope for this car at this point and it isn't my project (luckily). Overall the three step process works nicely, has great working time, is forgiving and produced a nice result. The machine itself has a very nice feel to it, nice balance and plenty of power. Tomorrow I'm working on a new car so I'll try and take some before and after pics of a better example. Unfortunately it's white so it won't be as dramatic. I have an employee here with a blue metallic Jetta with horribly maintained paint. Might be a good car to section off and try some different products.

Question for the Griot's guys (I think)...

- Would you guys say that the Fast Correcting Creme is more similar to Megs 205 than 105? I did use your white pad and some Megs 105 on the GTI today and it reduced down nicely. I also used a Car Guys denim pad for some orange peel and got nice results. Just trying to figure out a hierarchy of the new BOSS cremes and where they sit compared to some of the old standbys.

Overall I'm very happy with G15 and like what I'm seeing so far. I'll try to post some pics tomorrow.

- jamie
 
We finally got to try out the G21 on this beautiful Ferrari F12 Berlinetta. The car is in the shop for maintenance, but they wanted a wash, vac and wax while it was here. We didn't attempt any correction yet, as the car was only here for a short while, but we were able to lay on Griot's Garage Poly Wax. The G21 BOSS was exactly what I expected it would be after reading about how much time and effort went in to building the tool. I was very happy with the comfort and the ease of use. Instead of repeating what everyone else has said about it, I'd say that it just feels...natural. It's well thought out and very much appreciated. I can't wait to spend more time with it!

 
lashedup said:
Got my 15mm BOSS today and worked on a couple sections of single stage repaint on an old GTI. The prep work and the quality of the paint job itself is a bit of a mess and there isn't a lot of hope for this car at this point and it isn't my project (luckily). Overall the three step process works nicely, has great working time, is forgiving and produced a nice result. The machine itself has a very nice feel to it, nice balance and plenty of power. Tomorrow I'm working on a new car so I'll try and take some before and after pics of a better example. Unfortunately it's white so it won't be as dramatic. I have an employee here with a blue metallic Jetta with horribly maintained paint. Might be a good car to section off and try some different products.

Question for the Griot's guys (I think)...

- Would you guys say that the Fast Correcting Creme is more similar to Megs 205 than 105? I did use your white pad and some Megs 105 on the GTI today and it reduced down nicely. I also used a Car Guys denim pad for some orange peel and got nice results. Just trying to figure out a hierarchy of the new BOSS cremes and where they sit compared to some of the old standbys.

Overall I'm very happy with G15 and like what I'm seeing so far. I'll try to post some pics tomorrow.

- jamie
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Hi Jamie,
As you may know, I've got a few hours of using M105 and M205...both fantastic formulas! Contrary to BOSS Creams, M105 and M205 were formulated for use via a rotary. I recognize many have expanded their use via a orbital and had fantastic results. In my testing, the Perfecting Cream proved to cut similar to M205, but finishes out better with no micro-marring coming from the formula. The Fast Correcting Cream would be more on par with M105 when used for Random Orbital Polishing, but finish out much better with little to no micro-marring. Additionally, the formula was specifically made to pair with THE BOSS and exhibits little to no dusting depending on your climate and pad maintenance. Hope that answers your question. Thanks for your interest
 
Brownie said:
Hi Jamie,
As you may know, I've got a few hours of using M105 and M205...both fantastic formulas! Contrary to BOSS Creams, M105 and M205 were formulated for use via a rotary. I recognize many have expanded their use via a orbital and had fantastic results. In my testing, the Perfecting Cream proved to cut similar to M205, but finishes out better with no micro-marring coming from the formula. The Fast Correcting Cream would be more on par with M105 when used for Random Orbital Polishing, but finish out much better with little to no micro-marring. Additionally, the formula was specifically made to pair with THE BOSS and exhibits little to no dusting depending on your climate and pad maintenance. Hope that answers your question. Thanks for your interest
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One more for u. Which one would be close to the fg400. I got your correcting cream and it seems very compatible.
 
Thanks Jeff, I really appreciate the reply and time. Good reference... :props:
 
68bowtie said:
One more for u. Which one would be close to the fg400. I got your correcting cream and it seems very compatible.
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Hey Bud,

Menzerna FG400 is some great stuff! In developing BOSS Creams, FG400 was used as a benchmark for Fast Correcting Cream. This means it had to perform as well or better, or it didn't cut the mustard.

So, I'd recommend you give Fast Correcting Cream a shot. I'd say it has longer working time, little to no dust at all and finishes out better. IMO.. Give it a shot and let us know what you think. Thanks so much
 
Brownie said:
We're committed to developing solutions that deliver... Thanks for the suggestion :xyxthumbs:
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A mini BOSS would be awsome. I always like having tools of the same brand whenever possible. I'm sure 90% of the folks who bought a G21 or 15 would scoop up a mini in a heartbeat!
 
AbileneAutoWerx said:
A mini BOSS would be awsome. I always like having tools of the same brand whenever possible. I'm sure 90% of the folks who bought a G21 or 15 would scoop up a mini in a heartbeat!
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To expand on this how about a mini that may also work with smaller 2in pad! For those of us who like the get into tight areas and not go old school with it.
 
Also has anyone else noticed this, On the 21 im using CCS pads and im noticing that sometimes the edges of the pad are not making contact. Are they too thick? I notice the BOSS pads are thin in comparison to other pads on the market.
 
Legacykid said:
Also has anyone else noticed this, On the 21 im using CCS pads and im noticing that sometimes the edges of the pad are not making contact. Are they too thick? I notice the BOSS pads are thin in comparison to other pads on the market.
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Used my G15 with Buff & Shine 5.5" flat pads which are a little less than an inch thick and had no problems with the pad making contact.
 
Legacykid said:
Also has anyone else noticed this, On the 21 im using CCS pads and im noticing that sometimes the edges of the pad are not making contact. Are they too thick? I notice the BOSS pads are thin in comparison to other pads on the market.
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Is the weight of the machine causing the pad to mushroom? Or the pad too big for the backing plate? I don't own any ccs pads so I can't compare.
 
Legacykid said:
Also has anyone else noticed this, On the 21 im using CCS pads and im noticing that sometimes the edges of the pad are not making contact. Are they too thick? I notice the BOSS pads are thin in comparison to other pads on the market.
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Yeah, I made a post about that with LC 5.5" pads too. They are too thick. But I'm also not sure it's not an optical illusion as I did some work over the weekend I paid close attention to where the product was on the darker colored vehicle.
 
Legacykid said:
Also has anyone else noticed this, On the 21 im using CCS pads and im noticing that sometimes the edges of the pad are not making contact. Are they too thick? I notice the BOSS pads are thin in comparison to other pads on the market.
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Is this on a flat panel? Not sure understand how it's not making contact. Can you get a picture?

New CCS pads are not "ideal" IMO for large throw tools. You'd have better performance with Rupes, Megs discs, LC's HD orbital pads, or the Griot's BOSS pads. The 5" B&S pads work pretty well too.
 
Doesnt seem like the griots boss 6.5 pads cant take speed 6 or theyll start to seperate
Next job bumping down to 4 as per Rasky
 
nothingface5384 said:
Doesnt seem like the griots boss 6.5 pads cant take speed 6 or theyll start to seperate
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That sounds like an example of pushing the limit of adhesive technology.


I know over the years pad manufacturers have had to continually improve adhesive technology because we out here in the car detailing world push our pads to their limits.


:)
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
That sounds like an example of pushing the limit of adhesive technology.


I know over the years pad manufacturers have had to continually improve adhesive technology because we out here in the car detailing world push our pads to their limits.


:)
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Being new to machine polishing didnt know of such limit lol
Just figured speed 5 and 6 were for correction and didnt think of a pad not withstanding it as it were boss pads made for boss polisher..
EXpensive lesson on my part as it was 1 job and pads were straight out of packages....

If a pad of a polishing system cant be used , why have those speeds on the polisher? Wht would a manufacturer setup their system and their customer for failure lol
Or atoeast have a note/warning that say hey our polisher has 6 speeds but tests say our pads are only good up to speed 4 or 4.5

Thats 6 pads i pretty much laid to rest or atleast started their death bed

Ill be glad when 3d releases their new pads
They did testing right
Abuse the living sh!t out of them, as in 1 pad per car..multiple jobs and it still looks good/un hurt

Griot is like building an v8 engine that revs to 7k but with cast rods that only hold up to 5k...
Where as 3d seems to be building a total forged/ billet enginento withstand its max capabilites plus some abuse here and there..
 
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