Water Restrictions in CA

[JustJesus]

^ Too funny. I lived in Tustin a number of years before the switch.

But no, I'm more by Mile Square Park on the Brookhurst side. Location of that pic is actually in South Gate, where the owner lives.

 

[AGOatemywallet]

...how can you have a drought of the century and not prohibit washing cars??

You cannot prevent tax payers from maintaining their property by washing it

Would you also apply your Socialist dicate to washing clothes or your body or dishes?

I don't think you thought this one thru, maybe you should have cut and pasted this one

 

[Kamakaz1961]

^ Too funny. I lived in Tustin a number of years before the switch.

But no, I'm more by Mile Square Park on the Brookhurst side. Location of that pic is actually in South Gate, where the owner lives.

Ahh ok!! I am stalking you!!!.....LOL All kidding aside, the area you live is nice. I live near the Tustin District.

My best friend lives in FV too Garfield and Bushard

 

[swanicyouth]

I always wonder about posts like this. OP poses a question, and a bunch of people post follow up questions - but OP fails to respond.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

You cannot prevent tax payers from maintaining their property by washing it

Would you also apply your Socialist dicate to washing clothes or your body or dishes?

I don't think you thought this one thru, maybe you should have cut and pasted this one

What are you talking about and why are you directing it at me?? I was simply comparing what our water rationing was like here in my state to what it apparently is in CA now.

And as you so aptly noted, I always cut and paste my socialist dictates, so this was clearly not one of them.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

I always wonder about posts like this. OP poses a question, and a bunch of people post follow up questions - but OP fails to respond.

Maybe he hasn't had time yet, it was only this morning. Besides, maybe he's looking for a socialist dictate to copy and paste.

 

[swanicyouth]

Maybe he hasn't had time yet, it was only this morning. Besides, maybe he's looking for a socialist dictate to copy and paste.

Maybe I should start selling my water on eBay. We have plenty of it here.

 

[FUNX650]

Maybe I should start selling my water on eBay. We have plenty of it here.

There should be an open slot on eBay, for sure,
and since: the Socialists at the helm of eBay,
dictated the removal of "All-Things-Confederate".

(Would that action be considered a: social dictate?)


Bob

 

[Marvinlopezgti]

Everyone has an opinion on what's too dirty to do a rinseless or waterless. Some cars it's obvious, but a lot of times it depends on who you ask. I live in So Cal and I do both. I'm not an uber skilled detailer so this is just my opinions, but I like both. Rinseless seems a bit safer. Here's my routine for rinseless:

2 gallon contractor sprayer from Lowes ($30) with ONR mixed to QD dilution, if I feel the cars too dirty for a straight rinseless I pre-soak it with this.

I use 1 bucket with ONR + Eagle Edgeless towels. I use as many as I feel I need.

Right now I do waterless with a 1 liter Kwazar sprayer and Chemical Guys EcoSmart. I use a good number of Buff & Shine towels to minimize the risk of doing any harm to my paint. I'm OCD with it so I probably spray too much on my car and use too many towels. I haven't done a hose wash in ages, and I have washed what I'd considered fairly dirty (not caked on mud) cars using both methods.

If you use something high quality like D114 or ONR or EcoSmart and plenty of good towels imho you'll be fine. I find the process to be much quicker and less work. I hate lugging out the hose and prepping 2 buckets. I know a lot of people also do rinseless with the Big Red Sponge (Google it) I have the sponge and it works very well with a bucket + grit guard. I just haven't gotten the technique down and use waaaaay too much solution. Usually with ONR + 2 gallons of distilled water I can wash 2-3 cars.

This is the way that I have maintained my personal vehicle. When others would like me to wash their car, they are not maintained and have built up dirt. That's where the problem comes into play. When the car lets say has not been washed for 3+ months the buildup is quite a lot. I also have D114 and it does a good job at cleaning but there is still dirt left because the vehicle is so dirty.

Maintaining your vehicle can be done properly without the use of a hose. If you are using your vehicle as a DD your best bet to keep up with the vehicle is weekly sessions. Depending on how far you commute, how dirty the surface gets, etc. will dictate your method on maintaining your vehicle.

Here is a video I put together combining a Waterless and Rinseless wash into one session.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMiARqf_u4Q

My write up as well as videos can be found here:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...89737-my-waterless-rinseless-wash-method.html

Great videos. I watched them both. Like I stated above, this is how I maintain my vehicle but it is easily done now because I used to do the 2BM and it has been protected. My problem is the dirty vehicles.

Are you a professional detailer or just a hobbyist?

As of now, just friends and family, but with this whole situation, who knows...

Good luck Marvin, hope you find a solution.

Peace,

Darrin

Thank you Darrin!

I live in So Cal too. Land of the Fruits and Nuts!! I actually had the Water Patrol Observe me Rinseless washing my car. I passed their scrutiny as the guy stared at me and rode off on his scooter. He had a working vest on with Water Department in case anyone thought I might be on some crack...LOL.

So rinseless wash seems to be OK (at least in Tustin/Irvine). I know there are several rinsless wash techniques so rather than tell you what's the best way or technique I will tell you how I do mine.

I use a 2-Bucket 2-Grit guard method with a 32 ounce Sprayer and a dedicated wash mitt. I will saturate each panel 1st with a higher concentration of RW solution (sprayer) and then use the RW Bucket with my Mitt and rinse in the Rinse Bucket. I will dry each panel with a dedicated drying towel (Dry Me crazy). It works for me and I have a Black Car. I will usually follow up with a QD or Spray Wax (I am high on the new Blackfire Spray Wax awesome stuff).

To be even more environmental friendly, I will actually dump the rinse bucket on the Plants. So far, everything is OK.

So MY GUESS a rinseless wash is OK where you live. You might have a different technique on a Rinseless Wash, but that is the LEAST method I will do. I do not do a waterless wash, but my guess that be better than a rinseless wash. It's your preference.

The days of the Foam Gun 2-Bucket 2-Grit guard method is over for the time being.

I will have to call and see if they even know what rinseless washes are. I do have a pressure washer and I know that uses less water. Maybe there is a limit to how much water I can use to wash?

IMO:
California's mandatory water conservation regulations
are designed to address a dire situation. But how dire
of a situation is it, if it doesn't completely address the
need to "revolutionize" the Car Wash Industry?

I keep reading about cutting out water being served
at restaurants; or stop watering your lawn, etc.
This is supplying water to living things.

Yet no one is talking about shutting all of
the Car Washes down (OK. Yes, there are a few that
have fully implemented the Waterless-Wash route).

Sure...most everyone wants to have clean vehicles;
but: Car Washes?
That's supplying water to a material thing.


Bob

I have heard about the car washes recycling their water and that is why they are still allowed to operate. I feel like us detailers use less water than a car wash and get the job done.rops:

 

[Marvinlopezgti]

From the SMWD Water Conservation Ordinance:

6) Limits on Washing Vehicles: Using water to wash or clean a vehicle, including but not limited to any automobile, truck, van, bus, motorcycle, boat or trailer, whether motorized or not is prohibited, except by use of a hand-held bucket or similar container or a hand-held hose equipped with a positive self-closing water shut-off nozzle or device. This subsection does not apply to any commercial car washing facility.

That is from the Santa Margarita Water District, correct? They are the ones that sent me the notice.

I'm in Fountain Valley. I called the local water people and they said it's okay so as long as I use a hose attachment. My landlady said "NO" so I listened to her. (BTW, what did the letter you received say?)

Anyway, what I do is surely similar to these others. I use a small 2 gal bucket from home depot. A gallon of distilled water. ONR. I pour a little of the gallon of distilled water into the bucket. Pour in my ONR into the gallon of water, NOT into the bucket. Shake it up well. I use as many as MF towels as needed, starting with about four. I pour from the gallon of distilled water/ONR mix into the bucket, just enough to saturate the towels and a little more. I pour more into a spray bottle (I use a Kwazar) that I use to pre-soak the panels before hitting them with the MF towels. I save whatever is left of the gallon of distilled water/ONR for future use. Money saved

I do one panel at a time. Spray. Let it sit a bit. Wipe. Wipe. Dry. Repeat. I inspect the towel after each wipe. The second wipe, usually another side of a folded-in-fours towel, is to make sure I got all the dirt off the panel.

I use separate waffle weave towels to dry.

Here is a pic of a car that is about as dirty as I would consider for rinseless. I do this one fairly regularly and the owner is always happy when I'm done.

Nice job, it looks brand new. It looks like that car has been rained on and you still got it to look clean. I do a method similar to yours but my towels just get way too dirty with debris. There has to be an cleaner way to go about this.

I always wonder about posts like this. OP poses a question, and a bunch of people post follow up questions - but OP fails to respond.

Sorry, I was busy. I am not avoiding this post. But here I am now.

Maybe he hasn't had time yet, it was only this morning. Besides, maybe he's looking for a socialist dictate to copy and paste.

Exactly, I was busy. rops:

 

[jetman624]

That is from the Santa Margarita Water District, correct? They are the ones that sent me the notice.

It is. That is the notice posted on their website. Maybe you should send the letter back with a copy of their ordinance?

Very strange... can you post a copy of the letter or share the details? I don't want any letters, but I don't see how you ran afoul considering the ordinance posted on their website...?

 

[Marvinlopezgti]

It is. That is the notice posted on their website. Maybe you should send the letter back with a copy of their ordinance?



Very strange... can you post a copy of the letter or share the details? I don't want any letters, but I don't see how you ran afoul considering the ordinance posted on their website...?

My neighborhood in general has been getting slammed with letters. They want to make a street parking for the high school near here. I'll try and look for it and copy it.