Opti Gloss-Coat -- Can it Be Layered on Thick?

Jed Clampett

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Have been searching for an answer to this forever and still can't find a definitive YES or NO... Can Opti Gloss-Coat be layered several times to increase mar resistance?

I know Opti-Coat 2.0 could NOT be layered, but not sure about Gloss-Coat.

FWIW... I'm interested in ANY high quality, long-lasting nano/ceramic coating that can be layered on thick (5+ coats).

In my case longevity, UV protection, and scratch resistance is more important than perfect, show-room quality gloss.
 
Can be layered, do 10 if you like, but not sure what will happen durability wise. Will you try it Jed?
 
tdekany said:
Can be layered, do 10 if you like, but not sure what will happen durability wise. Will you try it Jed?
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If it can indeed be layered -- and if multiple layers will significantly help to reduce abrasions and UV damage -- then yes, I'm eager to try it!

I have a specific need for some hardcore paint protection, and I'm having a difficult time finding something as durable as I require. That's why I'm thinking in terms of adding more layers, and it seems most of the coatings are not designed for that.
 
silverfox said:
That many coating coats is a waste of money and time.
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I have read some other posts saying the same thing. But this video really makes me wonder...

[video=youtube_share;_z9oEbhyVzA"]C.A.R. Products Bullet Proof Exterior Coating-Scratch Resistance Test 5 layers - YouTube[/video]

That particular product doesn't have many reviews. So I was wondering if Opti Gloss-Coat (applied in several layers) could offer similar protection.
 
Opti-Coat 2.0 was layerable. You had like 30 days to apply additional layer before it fully hardened. Then after that you had to hit it with a fine polish first
 
DBAILEY said:
Opti-Coat 2.0 was layerable. You had like 30 days to apply additional layer before it fully hardened. Then after that you had to hit it with a fine polish first
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Huh... Really? I didn't know that. I remember reading over and over again that *nothing* would *ever* stick to it -- including itself. And while most loved the product, many were frustrated that they couldn't wax or seal over it.

I still have an unopened box of 2.0. But I don't think it's the best solution for my current needs.
 
Jed Clampett said:
Huh... Really? I didn't know that. I remember reading over and over again that *nothing* would *ever* stick to it -- including itself. And while most loved the product, many were frustrated that they couldn't wax or seal over it.

I still have an unopened box of 2.0. But I don't think it's the best solution for my current needs.
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I'll take the 2.0 off your hands if you don't want it! :dblthumb2:
 
More layers isn't going to increase mar resistance. THE PURPOSE OF COATINGS ARE NOT TO RESIST SCRATCHING. They happen to help with it, but that is not why they were created.

All you're going to have is a thicker layer of Gloss Coat. The Gloss Coat will be getting scratched, not the paint. So that's good, it saves your clear. It is not preventing your surface from getting scratched though.


Your best bet would be to get your Jeep fully wrapped, maybe something self-healing.

But dude, you're going off roading, why are you worrying about scratches? By coating your car, it'll be much easier to clean and will look better than any other off-roaders.

I have Collinite 845 on my mountain bike, but that's just because I was bored. It does make it easier to clean (not that it was hard before) but I'm not worried about scratches.

In short: get a good Paint Protection Film (PPF). Or get a harder coating installed by a pro (ie Opti-Coat Pro because it is a Silica Carbide coating vs a Silica Dioxide coating). PPF is still better. Also look up the Auto Detailing Podcast with the Optimum reps. Sounds like what
 
conman1395 said:
I have Collinite 845 on my mountain bike, but that's just because I was bored. It does make it easier to clean (not that it was hard before) but I'm not worried about scratches.
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i applied 2 coats of CQUK to my mountain bike. I love how easy it is to clean.
 
conman1395 said:
More layers isn't going to increase mar resistance. THE PURPOSE OF COATINGS ARE NOT TO RESIST SCRATCHING. They happen to help with it, but that is not why they were created.

All you're going to have is a thicker layer of Gloss Coat. The Gloss Coat will be getting scratched, not the paint. So that's good, it saves your clear. It is not preventing your surface from getting scratched though.

Your best bet would be to get your Jeep fully wrapped, maybe something self-healing.

But dude, you're going off roading, why are you worrying about scratches? By coating your car, it'll be much easier to clean and will look better than any other off-roaders.

I have Collinite 845 on my mountain bike, but that's just because I was bored. It does make it easier to clean (not that it was hard before) but I'm not worried about scratches.

In short: get a good Paint Protection Film (PPF). Or get a harder coating installed by a pro (ie Opti-Coat Pro because it is a Silica Carbide coating vs a Silica Dioxide coating). PPF is still better. Also look up the Auto Detailing Podcast with the Optimum reps. Sounds like what
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Thank you for the detailed post, conman1395.

Yes, it is just a Jeep. And yes, the Jeep purists say that I should wear my scratches like badges of honor. But this is our only vehicle, and it must do double duty. Off road and daily driver. So I want to mitigate damage as much as is sanely possible.

You make a great point about the coating getting scratched -- sacrificing itself to help save the clear. That is similar to how a PPF works, and if I were made of money, full body PPF is the way I would go for sure.

Will look into Opti-Coat Pro and the Optimum podcast. Thanks for that tip.
 
Some individuals have done Gloss Coat x2 within 1 hour of first application. I've done a few wheel sets with COPIOUS amounts of Gloss Coat and haven't seen any issues. It totally works for protection/ease of cleaning!
 
Jed, by several, you mean how many? You could try Gtechniq's C1/Exo combo, which I already done it with excellent results. But it is two layers, C1 first and Exo after 4 hours, still when the C1 is not fully cured yet. I believe you could push a little further, and go with two coats of Exo, ending with three layers. The problem with adding multiple layers is that it becomes prone to streaking.
I also think that you won't find much info about multiple coating layering because most of the people believe it is pointless. You will have to try it yourself.
The problem is will you wait it to fully cure to get the second layer, or top it while still not cured?
I use my car as test for products. Since Oct 14, I polished and coated with a Brazilian coating SiO2 based called VX 45, and the next wash I put some PBL Surface Coating on top, next wash with Menzerna PL, the next with Reload, and then Hydro O2, and sometimes I polish a trunk for instance to test some new product prior to use in client's car. My car is my guinea pig, it is old anyways :).
I also like the idea of multiple coating, and haven't found much info regarding it as well, so I decided to try it myself. Topping coatings with sealants is an idea I also appreciate, since most coating systems leaves a grabbier surface, not as slick as a sealant.
Email Optimum about your intentions, and ask what they think of it, wait until it fully cures or apply while is not fully cured is the question. Best regards.
 
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