Does frequent waxing really prolong the life of clearcoat?

Hoytman said:
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You better read post #9 again...and again until you understand it if that's what you think Bob said because you're not even close.
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I'm not an argumentative type, but if someone who fully comprehends the English language would chime in, besides me, to help explain how I precisely interpreted the improper double negative jargon in post number #9 that would be great. If I have to explain it and you guys don't get it. Sorry.
 
Just the way i read it:

If you never apply any LSP you will certainly never prolong the life of a clearcoat.

I am certainly not the argumentative type either and quite often get a kick out of Bob's tongue in cheek comments. This was simply another one that got me to snicker once again...that's all, i think, he was trying to do.
 
No one's being argumentative. I'm just typing that's all and there's not an agitated bone in my body. LOL!!

To imply that wax or an LSP may prolong the life of clear coat is a far cry from saying it will.
 
Puckman said:
Just the way i read it:

If you never apply any LSP you will certainly never prolong the life of a clearcoat.

I am certainly not the argumentative type either and quite often get a kick out of Bob's tongue in cheek comments. This was simply another one that got me to snicker once again...that's all, i think, he was trying to do.
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:iagree::iagree:on both points. Bob's a great guy, but that's beside the point...his point.
 
Hoytman said:
No one's being argumentative. I'm just typing that's all and there's not an agitated bone in my body. LOL!!

To imply that wax or an LSP may prolong the life of clear coat is a far cry from saying it will.
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I was directing my clarification to Waxmaster. I thought he misinterpreted.
 
And getting back to the OP, i have always been mystified by the destructive properties of UV light and i think, certainly down here in FL, it is a wicked wicked thing. I just wish i understood the science of how to combat it or which products have the best approach to it. I understand its a light frequency thing but how can an LSP (or any product) for that matter keep it minimized? Just like sun block for the skin. I don't get the science side of it.
 
My wife's Ford Escort Wagon was 14 years old when we replaced it. For most of it's life it was outside 24 X 7, but I always kept it protected--mostly with sealants.

Here's a couple of pics just before we sold it--
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No signs of clearcoat failure anywhere on the car.
 
If the clearcoat is going to fail, its going to fail no matter what sealant or coating you put on. Both of them offer no UV protection. Best bet is to keep your car out of the sun whenever possible. Sealants coatings etc just make cleaning your car easier while protecting your clearcoat from dirt as much as possible. You should still seal your car, to protect it from dirt as much as possible, unfortunately you cant protect it from the suns rays.

Does that make sense? please correct me if Im wrong.
 
7.3powerstroke said:
If the clearcoat is going to fail, its going to fail no matter what sealant or coating you put on. Both of them offer no UV protection. Best bet is to keep your car out of the sun whenever possible. Sealants coatings etc just make cleaning your car easier while protecting your clearcoat from dirt as much as possible. You should still seal your car, to protect it from dirt as much as possible, unfortunately you cant protect it from the suns rays.

Does that make sense? please correct me if Im wrong.
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You are wrong. Many, or I should say most sealants and waxes DO protect from UV exposure, not just dirt. Some detail sprays even have UV inhibitors in them. That is one of the main reasons for applying any protective coating on any part of the exterior of the car, is to protect against sun damage.

Here is the description of Fuzion for an example:
When Wolfgang Füzion Estate Wax is applied to your vehicle, the carnauba fuses with the polymers in a cross-linked matrix of protective molecules. This woven polymer shield is your vehicle’s best defense against moisture, airborne pollutants, bird droppings, insects, and UV radiation. The super polymers reinforce carnauba’s natural defense and promote maximum bonding to the paint.
 
FUNX650 said:
I can pretty much assure you that:

Never applying any type of an LSP upon the Clear Coat is not going to help in prolonging its expected life-cycle.


Bob
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I agree. Or more simply put...


Something is better than nothing....


A smooth protected surface is less prone to deterioration than a rough textured surface with not type of sacrificial protection.


:)
 
Jaretr1 said:
You are wrong. Many, or I should say most sealants and waxes DO protect from UV exposure, not just dirt. Some detail sprays even have UV inhibitors in them. That is one of the main reasons for applying any protective coating on any part of the exterior of the car, is to protect against sun damage.

Here is the description of Fuzion for an example:
When Wolfgang Füzion Estate Wax is applied to your vehicle, the carnauba fuses with the polymers in a cross-linked matrix of protective molecules. This woven polymer shield is your vehicle’s best defense against moisture, airborne pollutants, bird droppings, insects, and UV radiation. The super polymers reinforce carnauba’s natural defense and promote maximum bonding to the paint.
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I read a thread on here called " are waxes and sealants even necessary? ". I would post a link but I dont know how. Anyway, in that thread a very reputable pro stated what I just did: wax or sealant offer no uv protection. So I guess I will say that maybe they do offer some uv protection, but its probably pretty insignificant. It sounds good when they sell you the product. But like Mike P said. Anything is better than nothing. So IMO just try to keep your car out of the sun as much as possible.
Thoughts? Maybe im just way off in left field
 
WaxMaster1 said:
I'm not an argumentative type, ...
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Hoytman said:
No one's being argumentative. I'm just typing that's all and there's not an agitated bone in my body. LOL!!

To imply that wax or an LSP may prolong the life of clear coat is a far cry from saying it will.
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So there's no confusion...my post above was in reference to the post above... and I wasn't even implying WaxMaster said I was being argumentative... I was merely making a statement. It's all good Puckman... WaxMaster.
 
I wish we could get someone with a little science knowledge of some of the products to chime in and clarify this....

Based on my experience, it is definitely better to use something than use nothing. And I will continue to be drunk on the UV protection coolaid, that many protective products that advertise UV protection are in fact helping reduce sun damage. Nothing can eliminate it, but slow it down, or reduce it, definitely.
 
Sometimes one just has to hope. It would be nice to do a test out in the desert where half a hood has sealant applied and one half is left bare. Apply sealant on a regular basis and see what it looks like in a number of years or months or whatever. It just seems to me the manufacturers claim UV protection but never have any proof to back it up. We need someone like David from optimum to come on and clarify. He claims UV protection in his spray wax.
 
PoorOwner said:
^^ The water restriction has been bad here so a frequent car washing is discouraged.
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You are just being Lazy


Rinseless, Waterless and taking it to the Pay & Spray are all options

In most of CA, you can still wash your own car with the hose, as long as you have a shut-off nozzle on the end
 
I'm good Hoytman and was just trying to clarify to avoid any confusion myself. Not only am i good but it's all good here! :dblthumb2:

Now lemme go look at those UV links posted earlier and thanks to all.
 
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