what pads to use with Fg400 for one step

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Good morning,

I been using FG400 with MF pads on rupes and always finished with SF4000 because there always some minor haze i could see with light.

I been seeing people using fg400 as one step with LSP ready and looks like they used polishing pad, some light cutting pads

any pad suggestion for fg400 that can finish without haze?
 
I have had good luck with Buff and Shine/Uber orange on hard paints and green on softer ones. On some paints, I've even had decent finishing ability on a Rupes blue mf pad and gone over it with an aio to finish.
 
Not sure what pad to recommend for RUPES users but I generally will use either a blue light cutting or white polishing pad from the Hybrid lineup driven by the Flex 3401. Either will get this one step to LSP ready depending on paint behavior and pad choice.
 
I use an orange uber pad or a megs MF pad on hard paint sndget good results for a 1 step. If i am doing a 2 step i follow that with some sf4000
 
On a Rupes I'd use there green pad on harder clears and there yellow on softer clears. Another suggestion for your Rupes would be the new Meg's burgundy thin foam disc. They cut and finish very nice, even on fairly soft Honda paint.
 
Until you do a test spot you won't know. There is no one pad for all paint or one product for all paint. Do a test spot to see which looks best.
 
Just got done doing a one step with Menz FG400. Typically orange pads are the go to. For harder clears go with a dense or mf pad. For softer an uber green is great
 
On the black KIA that I recently posted about I used LC white CCS pads & my long-throw (not sold here) machine.
 
mcate said:
On the black KIA that I recently posted about I used LC white CCS pads & my long-throw (not sold here) machine.
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haha yes I saw that post,
result was very nice, I will try fg400 with polishing pad next time instead of cutting pad

btw how was paint on KIA?
soft i assume?
 
choijw2 said:
haha yes I saw that post,
result was very nice, I will try fg400 with polishing pad next time instead of cutting pad

btw how was paint on KIA?
soft i assume?
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Yep, pretty soft. FG400 ate thru the swirls really quickly. I was ready to break out the SF4000, then realized it didn't need it.
 
What people need to realize that if you do a good one step.

I mean try to remove a decent amount of the defects.

That fg400 doesn't really micro mar or leave compounding swirls, on NORMAL PAINT, soft paint even PF2500 will leave a haze

So back to my point, after your done with fg400, its not a big deal to go behind it with sf4000, the damage is gone your not trying to get out compounding swirls, like 105,101, or 100 leaves.

all you have to do is seriously go over with sf4000 like a wax and you will see a major enhancement in gloss.

After I'm done with fg400, the sf4000 step can take me less then 25 mins if I'm not being paid accordingly.

This is why the UNDERRATED PRODUCT OF GRIOTS GARAGE IS AWESOME. WITCH ONE IS THAT ?

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BOSS CREAM FINISHING SEALANT.

this is a fine finishing polish but with protection in it.

If your going to do a one step with fg400. Chances are your going to wax it. So why not use a finishing polish with protection in it?

Its an amazingly under rated product.

Again fg400 is such an amazing product it can be used as a one step and even afterwards, you don't need to Polish out any compound swirls you can over it with sf4000 in less then 20 mins and it looks amazing.

Huge props to menzerna
 
NextLevelDtail said:
What people need to realize that if you do a good one step.

I mean try to remove a decent amount of the defects.

That fg400 doesn't really micro mar or leave compounding swirls, on NORMAL PAINT, soft paint even PF2500 will leave a haze

So back to my point, after your done with fg400, its not a big deal to go behind it with sf4000, the damage is gone your not trying to get out compounding swirls, like 105,101, or 100 leaves.

all you have to do is seriously go over with sf4000 like a wax and you will see a major enhancement in gloss.

After I'm done with fg400, the sf4000 step can take me less then 25 mins if I'm not being paid accordingly.

This is why the UNDERRATED PRODUCT OF GRIOTS GARAGE IS AWESOME. WITCH ONE IS THAT ?

...........

BOSS CREAM FINISHING SEALANT.

this is a fine finishing polish but with protection in it.

If your going to do a one step with fg400. Chances are your going to wax it. So why not use a finishing polish with protection in it?

Its an amazingly under rated product.

Again fg400 is such an amazing product it can be used as a one step and even afterwards, you don't need to Polish out any compound swirls you can over it with sf4000 in less then 20 mins and it looks amazing.

Huge props to menzerna
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my last car was 2007 black camry and fg400 with mf pad left micro marrying and had to clean up with sf4000.

and I thin using MF pad was the issue with marrying.

waiting for another black car to test out fg400 with polishing pad instead this time.
 
choijw2 said:
my last car was 2007 black camry and fg400 with mf pad left micro marrying and had to clean up with sf4000.

and I thin using MF pad was the issue with marrying.

waiting for another black car to test out fg400 with polishing pad instead this time.
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Well microfiber pads tend to leave marring behind. And I only advise you to use MF pads if you plan on doing a multi step correction.

Also Toyota clear tends to be soft. So the MF pad was over kill.

https://youtu.be/3FWXJFcIf5g

On that paint it was soft, so I used a griots garage boss correcting pad witch is the least aggressive cutting pad in the boss line.

Next time if you want to use fg for a one step use foam, foam finishes better then microfiber.

But microfiber cuts better.

Never do a one step with any microfiber pad unless its really hard and isn't leaving any marring.
 
NextLevelDtail said:
What people need to realize that if you do a good one step.

I mean try to remove a decent amount of the defects.

That fg400 doesn't really micro mar or leave compounding swirls, on NORMAL PAINT, soft paint even PF2500 will leave a haze

So back to my point, after your done with fg400, its not a big deal to go behind it with sf4000, the damage is gone your not trying to get out compounding swirls, like 105,101, or 100 leaves.

all you have to do is seriously go over with sf4000 like a wax and you will see a major enhancement in gloss.

After I'm done with fg400, the sf4000 step can take me less then 25 mins if I'm not being paid accordingly.

This is why the UNDERRATED PRODUCT OF GRIOTS GARAGE IS AWESOME. WITCH ONE IS THAT ?

...........

BOSS CREAM FINISHING SEALANT.

this is a fine finishing polish but with protection in it.

If your going to do a one step with fg400. Chances are your going to wax it. So why not use a finishing polish with protection in it?

Its an amazingly under rated product.

Again fg400 is such an amazing product it can be used as a one step and even afterwards, you don't need to Polish out any compound swirls you can over it with sf4000 in less then 20 mins and it looks amazing.

Huge props to menzerna
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I agree, and you are correct it depends on the car. Yesterday I worked on a fairly newer GM black metallic (granite black) which is known to be very hard clear coat. FG400 finished off with such a high gloss, there was nothing left for me to do except top it with Liquid Souveran.
 
Fg400 with the blue light cutting hybrid pad on the Flex 3401 is an awesome combination for one step. Finishes so nicely all you need to do is apply your favorite wax or sealant.
 
paul_g said:
Just did a one step today with FG400, Boss G15 and LC Hydrotech Tangerine. Came out nice! Going to finish it off with a LC CCS 5.5" Blue and Pinnacle Liquid Soveran.
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That Tangerine Hydrotech pad would also work well with the 3401/FG400. Overall that pad is pretty versatile. In most cases I pair it with PF2500 on either the PC, or 3401 for one steps.

I have two "polish/seals" scheduled for tomorrow.

I'm thinking of trying PF2500 on the Rupes Duetto with their yellow foam pads on it.
 
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