Anyone use Armor All?
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Eldorado2k
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No it's solvent based. I never had a problem with it slinging, but I always gave it at least an hour to fully set. It looks that good for about 2-3 days then slowly/continually degrades. If you're into really shiny tires you'd say 2 days. Most people would be content with the mostly matte black tire that remains for 6-7 days.
The Armor All Tire Gel is water based. Back in the days I used to use both of those products at the same time.. I would 1st use the gel and once it dried I'd top it off with the Extreme Shine Aerosol. I was happy with the looks.
It's weird because back then [from the time of my 1st vehicle up until just a couple years ago] I would never scrub my tires clean prior to re applying tire shine. Yet I never ended up with nasty brown tires that so many people talk about. I would sometimes use the Armor All Extreme Shine Foam, so maybe that helped.
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When I took the detailing class at Meguiar's Michael Stoops told us that Armor All sells more of just their regular Armor All yearly than all of Meguiar's products combined two times over. I know AA's easy to find and popular with n00bs, but that kind of blew my mind.
vanev
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Professional Detailing and Armor All do not really match up.
I will say the Armor All Auto Glass is absolutely fantastic.
While I do not think that Armor All is even close to as bad as its reputation among today's detailers, there is so much more to consider.
Armor All is strictly a retail product forma company that offers little research into car care products compared to others.
While there are many great retail products, consider bulk purchasing for professional detailers.
Consider how many lines of products are really offered.
Consider R&D for future products.
The detail world is moving forward.
Your dollars count.
Supporting great auto care companies that really care about your vehicle, and you as a consumer, are the ones that you would benefit the most from to support with your dollars.
I will say the Armor All Auto Glass is absolutely fantastic.
While I do not think that Armor All is even close to as bad as its reputation among today's detailers, there is so much more to consider.
Armor All is strictly a retail product forma company that offers little research into car care products compared to others.
While there are many great retail products, consider bulk purchasing for professional detailers.
Consider how many lines of products are really offered.
Consider R&D for future products.
The detail world is moving forward.
Your dollars count.
Supporting great auto care companies that really care about your vehicle, and you as a consumer, are the ones that you would benefit the most from to support with your dollars.
Eldorado2k
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FUNX650
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IMO:
Your definition of what constitutes:
Professional Detailing needs to be expanded...
and expounded...upon.
For years...AA was the only game in town.
They were "The Gold Standard" that others
sought to either emulate and/or improve upon.
Some succeeded; some didn't do so hot.
Sorry...going to have to dispute your word.
ZEP/AA do have Professional products line-ups.
And...Their R&D is similar to other chemical
companies: Proprietary in nature.
Good sentiments.
And, yes: Zep/AA products actually do come in bulk.
I say:
Take another look at Zep's/AA's products before
totally discounting their consumer oriented style
of forward thinking.
Bob
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Well for starters their products are not made available in quantity, such as gallon size for the majority of their products offered.
The only product I am aware of offered in bulk to the general public is the Armor All Original Protectant.
This alone suggests it is intended for retail use.
Armor All does service the drive through (tunnel) auto wash industry, so in that respect, bulk quantity would be made available, but that is another thing entirely and not directly related to auto detailing.
Armor all is a company that has continuously bounced around, being bought and sold a few times over.
In regards to who exactly OEM's Armor All, and if the same product is sold under various name brands that possibly might be sold in bulk quantity, who knows.
That is a rabbit hole someone can waste their time trying to track down.
Eldorado2k
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Just because a product is sold for over the counter retail use doesn't mean it's of any lesser quality.
Perfect example is Meguiar's Ultimate Wax. For all the products that Meguiar's offers, Ultimate Wax is their best available wax and what they hang their hat on. I've heard it straight from them in person, and believe me it's without a doubt.
Perfect example is Meguiar's Ultimate Wax. For all the products that Meguiar's offers, Ultimate Wax is their best available wax and what they hang their hat on. I've heard it straight from them in person, and believe me it's without a doubt.
vanev
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No it really doesn't.
I would disagree with this.
Brands like Turtle Wax, Mothers, Simonize and others were available and have their cult following to this day.
Armor All has bounced around, been bought and sold a few times over.
Going strictly by brand name of Armor All only, and not its step sister product lines that have absorbed the company, it is fair to suggest that Armor All brand has a retail product target demographic.
Again, Armor All Inc is not in the driver's seat on those decisions.
It is a brand that has been absorbed by another manufacturer.
The chemistry of its product lines are at the discretion of what that manufacturer chooses to do with it.
I have used a couple ZEP products and have not been very impressed.
I am sure some ZEP products must be good, as the brand ZEP has its supporters.
I would not use the terminology "forward thinking" and ZEP in the same sentence.
At least not on terms of product quality.
If your talking business model, that is a whole separate subject.
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I'll go out on a limb and say that no other car care company has figured out how Armor All makes their aerosol Wheel Protectant. Name another product that resembles it or even comes close to doing what that stuff does...
How's that for Armor All's "research into car care products compared to others"
Eldorado2k
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@Vanev. I detailed my brothers Cadillac a while back and used Turtle Wax Endura on the tires, and Armor All Wheel Protectant on the wheels... He text me almost 2 months later saying he couldn't believe how his car has pretty much remained clean for so long.
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My 1st thought was the wheels & tires went a long way and they did. 2 months of staying perfect. 2 over the counter products..
So that's 2 products that can't be matched by so called "better brands", boutique companies, bulk sized/professional, or whatever you consider to be premium car care. And Meguiar's Ultimate Wax deserves an honorable mention so that makes 3.
I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way because I'm not trying to offend you. I'm just sayin..
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My 1st thought was the wheels & tires went a long way and they did. 2 months of staying perfect. 2 over the counter products..
So that's 2 products that can't be matched by so called "better brands", boutique companies, bulk sized/professional, or whatever you consider to be premium car care. And Meguiar's Ultimate Wax deserves an honorable mention so that makes 3.
I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way because I'm not trying to offend you. I'm just sayin..
vanev
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I never suggested that.
It may be natural to think that professional lines of product are automatically better.
That is not always the case.
Sometimes it is, sometimes it is not.
I personally think Armor All Auto Glass is the best auto glass cleaner on the market.
I am in search to find one better, and will honestly be surprises if I ever do.
I probably defend Armor All as much as anyone on this forum in my short time here so far.
Specifically regarding Meguairs Ultimate line of products, you are preaching to the choir on that subject.
I have never used the specific Armor All product you have mentioned.
So, I cannot speak to its quality or how it compares to other products in its class.
Armor All does not have its own research laboratory.
At one time, decades ago, that was probably the case.
It has since been absorbed by other corporations, and is simply a name brand that falls under the corporate umbrella of its current manufacturer.
I think it is great they have a product, or products, you enjoy using.
My suggestion would be to keep using the products you like.
Eldorado2k
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@Vanev. Are you the dude from the glass cleaner thread a while back? The 1 who asked Darren to review the Armor All Glass Cleaner?
FUNX650
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Evidently you misunderstood:
ArmorAll was actually the first to come to market
with a vinyl/rubber protectant...and there were no
other wannabes for years.
Note:
•I'm not going to try to address any other of your
beliefs by going down any rabbit hole in order to
provide any more evidence that says you are wrong...
-as it will probably only serve to strengthen your convictions.
Bob
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I am not offended at all.
Everyone has the right to state their point of view.
I possibly did not clarify my previous statement regarding retail line / professional line.
Certainly there are some fantastic products that would technically fall under the retail only banner.
Products that can, and should, be used on a professional level.
This subject of retail line / professional line of products has a way of going off in several directions discussion wise.
In some respects, some views are subjective simply by the lenses you are looking at the subject matter through.
In other cases, it is cut and dry due to products only being offered for distribution to body&paint shops and professional detail shops and not made available off the shelf to everyone.
Yes, that is me.
I did check in on AutoFetish YouTube Channel a couple times to see if Darren ever made a follow up video for the glass cleaner specifically, but I do not see it.
He is a busy guy and seems to be growing and already successful business.
I am just glad he gave the product an honest chance.
I honestly never thought he would.
Eldorado2k
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I got a chance to meet Darren last month at Mike Phillips' California Roadshow Event. While we were chatting, I brought up that thread and how he was my source for recommending it to the OP..
And not only that, but that the dude who actually asked him to review it [which was you] actually chimed in on the very same thread. Lol. He got a kick out of that. He was all smiles
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Did you say as an LSP?