Paint cleanser *and* glaze?

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Hey y'all -

Since I got hooked on detailing last Spring I've layered a lot of LSPs on my truck. Too many! It is now time to take 'em all off, do a little light correction work, and start fresh.

The vehicle is newish (a 2014 4Runner) and aside from a few very faint "pinstripes" from tight trails, the paint is in good shape.

I don't think I need a DA yet, so I'm planning on using a polish and/or glaze for the light "correction" work. And here's the issue I'm having: there's no standardization in terms, so I'm not 100% sure what products I want to get.

I'm interested in Poorboy’s World White Diamond Show Glaze because we have two silver vehicles and it would be fun to try something specifically for light cars.

I'm also interested in Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion as a mild corrective.

These products seem a little different but quite similar, no? What does your experience and/or gut say: would it be beneficial or pointless to use both of these?

And, I already have Klasse AIO and there's probably some overlap there too. Think I'd eek out some additional gloss by using a dedicated cleaner and glaze?

Thoughts?

P.S.
Just thought I'd share that the last LSP I put on the truck was Collinite #845. It looks fine but as amazing as I'd hoped. This is one thing that lead me to believe I have some build-up going on and need to start over.

BUT! I had the truck offroad a bunch on Sunday, and the mud slid off the truck like I'd never seen before. Pretty cool.
 
Tossing another option out there: Chemical Guys White Light Hybrid Radiant Finish.

I used the Black Light as noted in my avatar and love it. Is a standard for me now as I own two black vehicles. I can say it did lend a visually noticeable difference and I'm picky. Key was to hit it with a second coat as the directions note.

I've never really used a glaze before so I have no update the ones you listed.
 
without a DA you won't be doing much correction. So, a glaze will be needed to mask the paint imperfections. I'm not a fan of CG in general, but I've heard good things about Black Light (yes you can use it on white and get the same results...the different color option is just marketing). Their EZ Creme glaze is very good for initial results, but longevity is lacking. Prima Amgio has a very solid reputation...not only works well, but will "play nice" with a variety of LSPs. Other than that, most cleaner waxes will do a good job making lighter paints pop.
 
Hello APDX,

All three 'glaze' products you listed are essentially the same, all have fillers to conceal mild imperfections in the paint system, Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion being more of a cleanser than a glaze but it still has fillers.

You may achieve some extra gloss by using one of these. Regardless I suspect 845 will be unaffected by any of them in the slightest. To remove 845 you'll most likely need to perform at least a light polish.


Steve
 
zx10r Elle said:
Hello APDX,

All three 'glaze' products you listed are essentially the same, all have fillers to conceal mild imperfections in the paint system, Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion being more of a cleanser than a glaze but it still has fillers.

You may achieve some extra gloss by using one of these. Regardless I suspect 845 will be unaffected by any of them in the slightest. To remove 845 you'll most likely need to perform at least a light polish.
Steve
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Thanks for the info! I suspected that all of the things I listed had a fair amount of overlap.

Re: #845, I won't need to polish with a DA if I use some Eraser on it, right?
 
I say skip the foreplay and get an entry-level DA. It's how these scenarios always play out down the line =) Then you don't have to worry about glaze and stripping by hand or with chemicals. Just correct and LSP.

Looking at the upcoming holidays, March 20 is International Day of Happiness. Boom, DA purchase justified.
 
Loser said:
I say skip the foreplay and get an entry-level DA. It's how these scenarios always play out down the line =) Then you don't have to worry about glaze and stripping by hand or with chemicals. Just correct and LSP.

Looking at the upcoming holidays, March 20 is International Day of Happiness. Boom, DA purchase justified.
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:xyxthumbs: I could get behind this idea, but I don't think I need to be so aggressive at this point. Unless there's a very gentle pad / polish combo I should be using in this scenario?
 
You might want to take a look a Prima Amigo--it's a paint cleanser, mild abrasive and polymer based glaze that will last longer than most glazes when topped with a good sealant.

Prima Amigo Pre-Wax Cleanser & Gloss Enhancer, Prima prewax polish

But, no matter what you use it would all be much better with a DA like the Griots or even the $50 one you can buy locally.
 
Hmm, second mention of Prima Amigo in this thread: wow, an AG product that I've not yet heard of! I'll read up.
 
Mr APDX,

Unsure how much success you would have attempting to remove 845 with Eraser since its designed more to remove light surface oils and polish residue, not a synthetic wax but you can certainly try.

As a note I completely understand your reluctance to 'go at' a paint system that is less than 2 years old on a new vehicle and I am in complete support, in light of this fact 845 is doing you a favor by performing as it is supposed to and that is protecting the underlying paint system to the best of its abilities.

Theres a reason there are plenty of 8 month duration testimonials regarding 845.

It makes complete sense to go with your glaze plan until you think things have 'gone too far' with the condition of the paint, and by then you'll most likely have a clearer goal.


Steve
 
very light silver will act like white and hide a lot paint imperfections. Unless you're really looking you won't see them. I'm guessing the paint is worse off than you think....common error with white/ light silver cars. If you used a DA, and light cutting/polishing pad with something like OPT Hyperpolish (you control the aggressiveness by pad selection) you will see a night and day difference AND it won't wash away like a glaze.
 
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