What's the best rinse less wash on the market today?

If you are looking for a RW that
leaves some protection behind...

Then I'll suggest:
Meguiar's Rinse Free Express Wash & Wax (D115).


Bob


Not really marketed as a Rinseless wash, that is, there are no directions on the container for using it as a Rinseless wash. I suppose one could use 1:20 ratio per the instructions but that is not very economical compared to say D114 @ 1:256 or Uber @ 1:348
 
Not really marketed as a Rinseless wash, that is, there are no directions on the container for using it as a Rinseless wash.
I beg to differ:
Kinda depends on how you define "Rinseless Wash".

From its product description:

"Meguiars Rinse Free Express Wash & Wax is incredibly easy to use. Simply add a couple ounces to a 5 gallon wash bucket, soak a wash mitt or microfiber towel, and wash the vehicle one section at a time. After you wash a section, dry it using a Cobra Waffle Weave Guzzler or a Meguiars Water Magnet Drying Towel".

I suppose one could use 1:20 ratio per the instructions but that is not very economical compared to say D114 @ 1:256 or Uber @ 1:348
D115 has a "Wax component"; on the
other hand: D114 does not.


Bob
 
I am aware as I use both which is why I wouldn't recommend D115 as a Rinseless wash. Better off using D114 and some spray sealant or wax as a drying aid if you want a quick wash and wax. D115 works well as a one step waterless wash and wax however.
 
I am aware as I use both which is why I wouldn't recommend D115 as a Rinseless wash. Better off using D114 and some spray sealant or wax as a drying aid if you want a quick wash and wax. D115 works well as a one step waterless wash and wax however.
•So you're saying Meguiar's product
recommendations be damned?

•I also use both D114 and D115.
-That's why I do recommend that
D115 can be used as a RW&W.


Bob
 
•So you're saying Meguiar's product

recommendations be damned?



•I also use both D114 and D115.

-That's why I do recommend that

D115 can be used as a RW&W.





Bob


What recommendations are you referring to.
 
I see that is per Autogeeks product description but again it doesn't say anything of the sort on the actual product label. My reasoning comes from usage of other products for example Opti-Clean which has a dilution ratio of 1:3 for a waterless wash but Optimum makes no recommendations on using it as a Rinseless wash. Similarly I don't believe D115 would be a safe Rinseless wash unless you used a strong dilution like 1:20 which is again not economical.
 
That's interesting. The instructions on AG's site are vague.
"Simply add a couple ounces to a 5 gallon wash bucket..."

They both have "Rinse Free" in their product name. Does your container off D114 have "rinseless" or "rinse free" instructions?

Edited 11:55
 
I see that is per Autogeeks product description but again it doesn't say anything of the sort on the actual product label. My reasoning comes from usage of other products for example Opti-Clean which has a dilution ratio of 1:3 for a waterless wash but Optimum makes no recommendations on using it as a Rinseless wash. Similarly I don't believe D115 would be a safe Rinseless wash unless you used a strong dilution like 1:20 which is again not economical.

This discussion of "multi-purpose" products that might be used as both a waterless and a rinseless, has come up before, with some skepticism about the dilutions:

Ultimately I find it hard to get past the fact that all the raw material guys, the ones who make the building blocks we use to make your products, the ones who tend to be the multi billion dollar, global entities... recommend waterless washes with {active ingredient} levels in the region of 3-5%. Extrapolate it and the highest theoretical concentrate level would be 33x (anymore and there would be more than 100%). In actual practice, it is generally unrealistic to hope for more than 50% active (the formulations would generally not be stable higher). This brings us to the general idea that a rinseless cannot be comparable to a waterless when at more than about 20:1. Since many rinseless products are diluted far more than this there is something awry.As I see it, it is boiling down to whether I believe the global entities with their advanced R&D facilities and huge budgets or one of the (relatively) miniscule automotive specific manufacturers. Certainly if it were to come down to a question between my company and BASF (for example), I wouldn't for one second hesitate in telling you to believe BASF.
 
Not sure this makes any bit of difference but I pretreat my panels with a waterless dilution while having a rinseless dilution in my bucket.

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Err so all Rinseless washes are too dilute?

I'm not sure that was the takeaway from that, more like you can't have one product that will have enough "stuff" in it to be both a rinseless and a waterless (that the dilution requirements are too different). Actually you kind of see this with D115, which is primarily a waterless, but the recommended rinseless dilution is waaay heavier than what we expect with a rinseless.

So I'm not sure if PiPUK was suggesting that from his standpoint a rinseless and a waterless use different active ingredients, so if you dilute a waterless down to a typical rinseless concentration, it gets diluted down way below the recommendation for that active ingredient.

I guess that was clear as mud. This is the thread: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...nseless-vs-waterless-washing.html#post1074007
 
I see that is per Autogeeks product description but again it doesn't say anything of the sort on the actual product label. My reasoning comes from usage of other products for example Opti-Clean which has a dilution ratio of 1:3 for a waterless wash but Optimum makes no recommendations on using it as a Rinseless wash. Similarly I don't believe D115 would be a safe Rinseless wash unless you used a strong dilution like 1:20 which is again not economical.
^^^Believe and reason whatever,
and however, you want...

Here's the real deal, though:

Mid-Year Introduction - D115 Rinse Free Express Wash & Wax

[ame="http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cICbdJocUI4"]How to use Meguiar's D114 & D115 Rinse Free Express Wash - YouTube[/video]


Bob
 
Thanks I've watched that video albeit a while ago. I'm not going to watch it again because it is 40 mins long but I don't remember them ever actually using D115 as a Rinseless in the video. I also recall them recommending putting the whole gallon of D115 into a 5 gallon container and using that as the Rinseless solution. So basically using almost half a gallon of D115 for one Rinseless wash...
 
Thanks I've watched that video albeit a while ago. I'm not going to watch it again because it is 40 mins long but I don't remember them ever actually using D115 as a Rinseless in the video. I also recall them recommending putting the whole gallon of D115 into a 5 gallon container and using that as the Rinseless solution. So basically using almost half a gallon of D115 for one Rinseless wash...
Now that's a boutique Rinsless wash!!

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I don't understand why you would bother with 115 as a rinseless when theres 114. Use a spray wax when your done. Or a dedicated rinseless wash and wax product
 
@pheerix. I couldn't agree with you more.. I've already had this argument about D115 having no business even being brought up in the conversation of Rinseless Washes.. That is unless Meguiars decides to step in and boldly recommend a rinseless dilution for D115, which btw, they've pretty much never done in all of 5yrs.

-And no those 2 quik mentions people always go back and refer to are beyond cheap excuses.- It's ridiculous for anyone to mention or worse yet recommend D115 as a rinseless unless they themselves actually use it that way. [which I'd bet not a single person on here is] If they are they would've spoken about it by now, instead of using a cheap link as somekind of "evidence" to hold Meguiars to...

If anyone's going to recommend something so bold such as D115 as a rinseless @4:1 [which has been done numerous times on here] the least you could do is vouch for it based on your own experience. And while you're at it, post some pictures of your D115 rinseless setup, because I won't believe you without seeing it. Lol.
 
It's hard to say what's best when I haven't tried many. Right now I like UWW+ the best, but I haven't cracked the Uber or BF rinseless washes yet.
 
•I also use both D114 and D115.

-That's why I do recommend that

D115 can be used as a RW&W.





Bob


Hi Bob👋🏼 I just read your post.. Can you fill us in on your thoughts as far as D115 as a dedicated rinseless wash? I wasn't aware of it having a new description on here.. What exact dilution do you use it at? I'm surprised no one has mentioned using it. Can you maybe offer a review? I'm sure alot of people would find it interesting.
 
Thanks I've watched that video albeit a while ago.
I'm not going to watch it again because it is 40 mins long

but I don't remember them ever actually
using D115 as a Rinseless in the video.
Too bad you won't watch it again:
Your posting untrue information.

I also recall them recommending putting the whole gallon of D115 into a 5 gallon container and using that as the Rinseless solution.
So basically using almost half a gallon of D115 for one Rinseless wash...
Most detailers can RW&W 8-10 vehicles
out of a 5 gallon bucket of solution.

Say it isn't true that you use 5 gallons of
solution to: RW & Wax...one vehicle! :eek:
If so:
That'd be a pretty sad state of affairs, IMO.


Bob
 
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