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Are we all making detailing to hard? I read some of the posts and I scratch my head... such as rinseless wash... some use 2 buckets others one and some spray it on and wipe it off... the other day I had a 2016 black explore and it needed washed... I filled 3 gallons of water added the solution and started at the top and worked my way down... just as I would with any wash... dried it inspected it in the sun NO marring... to a whopping 15 minutes customer happy.... I like the k.i.s.s approach to detailing and I have many happy and returning customers.... so why are so many making this hard? Just my ponderous thought of the day...
 
I do not think detailers are not making it hard.
It all has to do with the size and condition of the vehicle.
It also has to do with the extent of detailing services performed.

Washing a vehicle has very little to do with actually cleaning the vehicle, unless the vehicle has been previously detailed and is already clean.
Cleaning really comes with decontamination.
With today's products and technology, and I would include poor technique, any one can smother a car in silicones and solvents, detail sprays and spray waxes, and make the vehicle look detailed.
The appearance of a detail, and actually detailing are not the same thing.

Not suggesting you did any of the above, just answering your question in general.
 
Glad your simple approach worked out. But do that to the same black vehicle another dozen times and I'm willing to bet you'll have a very different opinion. It's not one wash that screws up the paint noticeably (altho that certainly can happen). It's after repeated washings with less than diligent methods that causes accumulated (noticeable) defects. Sort of like a gallon of water poured over a rock will do 'nothing', but water running over it for years will eventually erode it away.

The best method of having pristine paint is to not screw it up in the first place.
 
vanev said:
I do not think detailers are not making it hard.
It all has to do with the size and condition of the vehicle.
It also has to do with the extent of detailing services performed.

Washing a vehicle has very little to do with actually cleaning the vehicle, unless the vehicle has been previously detailed and is already clean.
Cleaning really comes with decontamination.
With today's products and technology, and I would include poor technique, any one can smother a car in silicones and solvents, detail sprays and spray waxes, and make the vehicle look detailed.
The appearance of a detail, and actually detailing are not the same thing.

Not suggesting you did any of the above, just answering your question in general.
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true ^
 
brettS4 said:
Glad your simple approach worked out. But do that to the same black vehicle another dozen times and I'm willing to bet you'll have a very different opinion. It's not one wash that screws up the paint noticeably (altho that certainly can happen). It's after repeated washings with less than diligent methods that causes accumulated (noticeable) defects. Sort of like a gallon of water poured over a rock will do 'nothing', but water running over it for years will eventually erode it away.

The best method of having pristine paint is to not screw it up in the first place.
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pheerix said:
Some people like to be more "detailed" than that
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:iagree::dblthumb2:
 
jasper99006 said:
Are we all making detailing to hard? I read some of the posts and I scratch my head... such as rinseless wash... some use 2 buckets others one and some spray it on and wipe it off... the other day I had a 2016 black explore and it needed washed... I filled 3 gallons of water added the solution and started at the top and worked my way down... just as I would with any wash... dried it inspected it in the sun NO marring... to a whopping 15 minutes customer happy.... I like the k.i.s.s approach to detailing and I have many happy and returning customers.... so why are so many making this hard? Just my ponderous thought of the day...
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You pretty much answered the question - because that specific method works for the person. It may not be for you, but it is for others.

Take thick vs thin towels, for example. Some hated the thickness because of bulk or lacked of feel, while others love the reassurance thicker pile offers.

Also, keep in mind "simple" isn't just about number of steps, but the routine which allowed smooth operation. Just because someone introduce a new & fewer steps, it doesn't guarantee that I will automatically like or easy to adapt. If anything, it'd likely cause disruption of momentum, and we all hate when things interrupt our "flow."
 
I am more detailed than most I just read some of these posts and I just shake my head at how cumbersome people make this... I love what I do and I'm known for what I do in my area... you guys are great!
 
I agree with the OPs position. Too many people waaay over-think and over-do detailing. As Mike says.... keep it simple.
 
jasper99006 said:
•Are we all making detailing to hard?
-I read some of the posts and I scratch my head...

•the other day I had a 2016 black explore
and it needed washed...

-I filled 3 gallons of water
-added the solution
-and started at the top and
worked my way down...
-just as I would with any wash...

-dried it
-inspected it in the sun NO marring...
-to a whopping 15 minutes customer happy....

•I like the k.i.s.s approach to detailing and
-I have many happy and returning customers....

•so why are so many making this hard?
jasper99006 said:
•I am more detailed than most
-I just read some of these posts and
-I just shake my head at how cumbersome
people make this...

•I love what I do and
-I'm known for what I do in my area...
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Some people don't refer to the act of washing &
drying a vehicle as: "Detailing"; or the individual
performing the vehicle washing & drying as a:
"Detailer", per se.

Instead...
It's usually more along the lines
of: "Glorified Shoe Shine Boy".

Sad; but true.


Bob
 
On this site, we have:

Newbies without a clue (me!)
People who just like to keep their car clean
People who treat the pride and joy in the garage better than their kid
Hobbyists who do their own vehicles and maybe a few friends/family/neighbors to finance the addiction
People who do this for a living and are known for their attention to the finer points
People who do this for a living and achieve that by cranking out as many cars as they can per week.

And everything in between. Different strokes for different folks.
 
When I first come to the sight I was intimidated and amazed and the different products, process and user opinions .. I adapted the products and technique that suited me and what I felt comfortable with .. Here's what I use for my daily driver, I don't detail as a business, just hobby and car guy personally .. I use purple power diluted for my all purpose cleaner, meguiars tire shine, meguiars car soap, meguiars clay bar and I just recently added a griots gg6 with lake county pads and McKees compounds to my arsenal .. I do use the two bucket method as I believe this does help over multiple washes and I do use a variety of quality microfiber wash Mitts and towels .. Find what works and what gets you the results your satisfied, as long as your satisfied there is no wrong way
 
I do everything I can to make it easier. It's a lot of work. Even more when you're dealing with the many variables we face when dealing with the varieties of surfaces that need care and attention.

I feel I owe it to whoever I'm working for to deliver my absolute best, given the agreed upon service. Just like when drumming on a gig, in the studio, doing a clinic, or teaching privately I have to give 110% polishing cars too. I'm almost never satisfied with my work either.

One of the alluring aspects of both fields is the constant challenge. Polishing paint had always been blend of technical elements of tools, pads, product, knowledge in a dance with artistry and technique. The variables can be many, and the passion is in unlocking the right combination.
 
dlc95 said:
I do everything I can to make it easier. It's a lot of work. Even more when you're dealing with the many variables we face when dealing with the varieties of surfaces that need care and attention.

I feel I owe it to whoever I'm working for to deliver my absolute best, given the agreed upon service. Just like when drumming on a gig, in the studio, doing a clinic, or teaching privately I have to give 110% polishing cars too. I'm almost never satisfied with my work either.

One of the alluring aspects of both fields is the constant challenge. Polishing paint had always been blend of technical elements of tools, pads, product, knowledge in a dance with artistry and technique. The variables can be many, and the passion is in unlocking the right combination.
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Very accurate, i couldnt agree more.

And i find trying to unlock that combination that works the best, is really what separates a pro from a average joe.

Knowing what to do, what to try to solve that problem comes from experience , that classes, tutorials, tips, cant do, nothing beats experience.

And i also agree, i am almost never satisfied with my work either!
 
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