Can I polish before McKees Paint Coating?

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Just picked up a used 2014 Ford Escape in black for my girlfriend. I want to do a full detail on it so I was planning on hitting it with Pinnacle Cleansing Lotion, then the McKees Paint Coating Prep and then McKees Paint Coating. Is this acceptable? Of course I will use Iron X and my Nanoskin mitt beforehand.

Actually excited to try out my product on a black car!
 
No need for the Pinnacle Cleansing Lotion. This is an equivalent product to the McKee's 37 Coating Prep Polish. This will clean the paint and prep it for the McKee's 37 Paint Coating to bond.

Are you planning to remove swirls and scratches on your GF's car's paint though? The Pinnacle Cleaning Lotion is non-abrasive so it won't really remove and swirls and scratches. What compounds and polishes do you have? If you're looking for suggestions, you can check these products out:
McKee's 37 Fast Compound
McKee's 37 Fast Polish

But any compound and polish would work.

So depending on the condition of the paint, you can take one of the following approaches:
1, Compound -> Polish -> Coating Prep Polish -> Coating (For heavy swirls/defects)
2. Polish -> Coating Prep Polish -> Coating (For light swirls/defects)

Hope this helps.
 
Honestly I would just use HD Speed if there are scratches and swirls I need to get out...already have it on hand...unless you wouldn't recommend that.
 
CC268 said:
Honestly I would just use HD Speed if there are scratches and swirls I need to get out...already have it on hand...unless you wouldn't recommend that.
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Speed is great but you'll be left with an LSP which contains Poxy, a montan wax and it would be hard for the McKee's Coating to bond to it.
 
CC268 said:
Honestly I would just use HD Speed if there are scratches and swirls I need to get out...already have it on hand...unless you wouldn't recommend that.
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Not if you plan on coating the car. Speed has wax in it, you would have to get that off for the coating to bond. You could, but I wouldn't recommend it. If you just want one step before prep polish and coating get a good cutting polish, like Sonax EX04-06
 
Well couldn't I do HD Speed --> McKees Coating Prep Polish --> McKees Paint Coating
 
CC268 said:
Honestly I would just use HD Speed if there are scratches and swirls I need to get out...already have it on hand...unless you wouldn't recommend that.
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HD Speed is an AIO: an all-in-one
cleaner, polish and Sealant.

Never seen or heard of this product being
recommended as a "base" for Coatings.

CC268 said:
Well couldn't I do HD Speed -->
McKees Coating Prep Polish -->
McKees Paint Coating
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The vehicle's paint must have some
defects that you are far more concerned
about now, than you initially expressed.

Time to bring out the
"Test Spot" equipment.



Bob
 
Lol relax Bob I haven't even looked at the paint in great detail and it's too dark to tell now...I was just asking. I will pick up McKees Fast Polish if I find that the paint needs it
 
FUNX650 said:
HD Speed is an AIO: an all-in-one
cleaner, polish and Sealant.

Never seen or heard of this product being
recommended as a "base" for Coatings.


The vehicle's paint must have some
defects that you are far more concerned
about now, than you initially expressed.

Time to bring out the
"Test Spot" equipment.




Bob
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Why do you say that? He's just wanting to polish, prep, and coat it. Granted he wants to use an AIO for the polish, so he'll need to strip the wax/sealant before coating, but his plan is not terribly unorthodox.
 
CC268 said:
Honestly I would just use HD Speed if there are scratches and swirls I need to get out...already have it on hand...unless you wouldn't recommend that.
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No HD Speed would work.

So the process will be:
HD Speed -> Coating Prep Polish -> Coating

I just don't know if the coating prep polish would completely eliminate the sealants present in HD Speed. If it was me, I'd use a dedicated compound/polish.

Maybe you could ask Nick and see if the Coating Prep Polish will be strong enough to remove the sealants in HD Speed. If there's any sealants left behind, it will affect the bonding process of the coating.
 
Like I said I would be using the McKees Prep Polish before the coating...otherwise I can just buy a different polish I guess
 
Alright I will just order the McKees Polish
 
CC268 said:
Lol relax Bob
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Not to worry...I stay very relaxed.
I'm too old; and on a fixed income;
too expensive to go clubbing anymore.

CC268 said:
I haven't even looked at the paint in
great detail and it's too dark to tell now...
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You're saying you still don't have
a "swirl finder" light source? :)

Anyway...
I wish you Best of Luck with this project.


Bob
 
Marc08EX said:
No need for the Pinnacle Cleansing Lotion. This is an equivalent product to the McKee's 37 Coating Prep Polish. This will clean the paint and prep it for the McKee's 37 Paint Coating to bond.

Are you planning to remove swirls and scratches on your GF's car's paint though? The Pinnacle Cleaning Lotion is non-abrasive so it won't really remove and swirls and scratches. What compounds and polishes do you have? If you're looking for suggestions, you can check these products out:
McKee's 37 Fast Compound
McKee's 37 Fast Polish

But any compound and polish would work.

So depending on the condition of the paint, you can take one of the following approaches:
1, Compound -> Polish -> Coating Prep Polish -> Coating (For heavy swirls/defects)
2. Polish -> Coating Prep Polish -> Coating (For light swirls/defects)

Hope this helps.
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Good post and I would follow this.

CC268 said:
Well couldn't I do HD Speed --> McKees Coating Prep Polish --> McKees Paint Coating
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Seems like you would be working backwards ensuring that the wax in HD Speed would be removed. I'd use a dedicated polish over speed to fix any defects.

Marc08EX said:
No HD Speed would work.

So the process will be:
HD Speed -> Coating Prep Polish -> Coating

I just don't know if the coating prep polish would completely eliminate the sealants present in HD Speed. If it was me, I'd use a dedicated compound/polish.

Maybe you could ask Nick and see if the Coating Prep Polish will be strong enough to remove the sealants in HD Speed. If there's any sealants left behind, it will affect the bonding process of the coating.
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Maybe if used with a polishing pad since it would add a little bit of cut due to the pad.
 
FUNX650 said:
Not to worry...I stay very relaxed.
I'm too old; and on a fixed income;
too expensive to go clubbing anymore.


You're saying you still don't have
a "swirl finder" light source? :)

Anyway...
I wish you Best of Luck with this project.


Bob
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I appreciate the help...with that being said this is a daily driver...I don't expect it to be perfect all the time like I would a Corvette. I guess at this point my best bet is to get a dedicated polish if the paint needs it before doing the McKee Pre Coating Polish and Paiint Coating
 
jeepbrew said:
Why do you say that?
He's just wanting to polish, prep, and coat it.

Granted he wants to use an AIO for the polish,
so he'll need to strip the wax/sealant before coating,

but his plan is not terribly unorthodox.
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•Even if money is of no concern:
It's being terribly wasteful of
time, product, and effort, IMHO.

•I wish for AGO forum member CC268
to make it a habit to try to employ
"Best Practices" for his detailing ventures.

•My protracted postings include some
examples of my "Best Practices"...ones
that has made detailing my vehicles
over the years so much FUN!!

•And...
What's nice about Detailing is, that:
Nothing is written in stone!!



Bob
 
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