AIO Protection Ability

[Jeremy1976]

Environment and elements, technique of application, along with how the vehicle is maintained after the application, play a huge role in longevity of any product.

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[Blackdevil77]

Why even use an AIO if it needs to be topped? Why not just go with a trusty polish like 205 and then add your LSP? This never made sense to me.

Good point. Besides from the protection aspect of an AIO, what do the AIO's do that a polish like 205, can't? Is there any additional benefits of an AIO over a polish besides protection? Do the AIOs have any additional cut?

 

[Octopiston]

Because they do not have to prove that it works for 6 months. They can say however long they wish to say. It's up to the consumer to use judgement on whether it's true or BS.

360 gets about 3 months for me and I've used it for a couple of years now. Maybe it gets 6 if it's exposed to the elements only on weekends.

5 mo. on a pick-up that sets outside so far. I'm in north Texas. We've had triple digit days, but it has been a cooler and wetter summer than we usually have.

 

[Octopiston]

Good point. Besides from the protection aspect of an AIO, what do the AIO's do that a polish like 205, can't? Is there any additional benefits of an AIO over a polish besides protection? Do the AIOs have any additional cut?

None. They tend to be on the light swirl remover side of the agressive scale. AG needs to update this, but it'll give you an idea.

Autogeek Swirl Removers & Compounds Comparison Chart

 

[LEDetailing]

My go to topper LSP on top of Speed is BFWD sealant. I swear it is slickest paint I've ever felt. Not the super durability of Collinite, but durable and smooth.

I polished a hood on a coworkers truck using Sonax's Perfect Finish topped with BFWD and all the other panels were polished with Speed and topped with BFWD. The Speed panels felt slicker.

 

[Jeremy1976]

My go to topper LSP on top of Speed is BFWD sealant. I swear it is slickest paint I've ever felt. Not the super durability of Collinite, but durable and smooth.

I polished a hood on a coworkers truck using Sonax's Perfect Finish topped with BFWD and all the other panels were polished with Speed and topped with BFWD. The Speed panels felt slicker.

Speed and 845 should be in every detailers arsenal! Both home run products!

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[shadwell]

If I was gonna top with 845 (and i do often ) I would use carpro reflect on a finishing pad to clean and freshen up the paint..

ie seems you are managaing the protection aspect anyway so why worry about the AIO aspect at all.. just use a really easy finishing polish and add LSP...

 

[Eldorado2k]

Because they do not have to prove that it works for 6 months. They can say however long they wish to say. It's up to the consumer to use judgement on whether it's true or BS.

360 gets about 3 months for me and I've used it for a couple of years now. Maybe it gets 6 if it's exposed to the elements only on weekends.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts based on your real world experience with the product.

 

[srpurdy]

For those of you that do this, doesn't that defeat the whole purpose behind an AIO? Why not just use, as an example, a Menzerna light polish followed by 845 as you'd get slightly better correction results? Sure the protection may be slightly less but not by a dramatic amount. This isn't meant as criticism as each of us have our particulars on how we detail, I'm just curious.

PS - I used HD Speed for the first time this past weekend on two vehicles and fell in love with it. I can't attest to the wax durability but I will add however that on the product description on AG it doesn't mention the word "glaze" where as it does have that word on the bottle. Regardless, the results were beyond what I was expecting and it has become a main stay product in my arsenal for AIO clients.

I was just going to say this, you can just do a 1 step polish and get probably better results. The whole point of AIO for me would be not having to do the wax step. So anything with sub-par durability I would not consider. Has to last at least 3 months otherwise it's pointless to me, but that's just my way of detailing.

 

[Eldorado2k]

I was just going to say this, you can just do a 1 step polish and get probably better results. The whole point of AIO for me would be not having to do the wax step. So anything with sub-par durability I would not consider. Has to last at least 3 months otherwise it's pointless to me, but that's just my way of detailing.

I agree.^ This is why Megs was spot on way back when they named their AIO "Paint Reconditioning Cream"

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It's mainly meant for polishing turds for quik resale, quik flip, here today gone tomorrow, production detailing, call it what you want.. But any way you slice it, AIO's are a subpar way of going about it compared to a full multi step process. I don't care which 1 it is, they all share the same characteristics.

That's why I don't use em on my own vehicles. I figure why settle for an AIO when there's much longer lasting protection available.

Customers on the other hand, well they're going to get what they pay for. Lol.

 

[srpurdy]

I agree.^ This is why Megs was spot on way back when they named their AIO "Paint Reconditioning Cream"

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It's mainly meant for polishing turds for quik resale, quik flip, here today gone tomorrow, production detailing, call it what you want.. But any way you slice it, AIO's are a subpar way of going about it compared to a full multi step process. I don't care which 1 it is, they all share the same characteristics.

That's why I don't use em on my own vehicles. I figure why settle for an AIO when there's much longer lasting protection available.

Customers on the other hand, well they're going to get what they pay for. Lol.

Yup, I wish I could flip cars like that. Here it is impossible to do that cause the government will charge you market value on the taxes upon purchase. Probably will eat up any profit lol. The $1 trick doesn't work here anymore.

 

[PaulMys]

My take on the AIO vs. polish is this: Yes, the AIO's are marketed as just that. All steps done in one fell swoop. However, anyone that knows anything about detailing, or life in general, knows that if sounds too good to be true............ It probably is. But, they do their job as described. As well as traditional multi-steps? Depends.

Depends? Yes. On what you expect to do, and how much trust you have in manufacturers claims. (You can skip 2 rungs of the ladder you are climbing with this!!)

Me? I read about all types of polishes and AIO's for years before deciding on one to machine polish with. What I quickly realized was this: Dedicated polish, or AIO, I was going to top with LSP no matter what, so that was a wash (tie) to me.

Then, after reading mixed reviews on most dedicated polishes, and great reviews on one AIO (HD Speed), I concluded this: If the same result can be achieved with either (this is me talking about my truck which only needs a light polish), then why not use the AIO with a protection factor? Just one more layer under my 3 layers of LSP.

 

[DBAILEY]

I always put down two layers of sealant on my jobs anyway to ensure coverage and hopefully extend durability with a thicker combined layer. That is a pretty common practice around here. So topping an AIO is still saving a step me a step as I only top it once. Why use an AIO or a paint cleanser instead of a dedicated polish? TO SAVE CLEAR COAT. WHY ELSE? Seems like many guys on here are doing multi step polishing on their cars more than once a year. That is what seems silly to me with all the cars I see driving around with cloudy white patches from clear coat failure. Its just too damn thin.

I am mainly looking to take advantage of the paint cleaning ability of most AIO's. I also go much faster with a AIO or paint cleanser than I would with a dedicated polish. I'll use a paint cleanser if the marring is not noticeable or a AIO if I just need the lightest of polishing.