Collinite 915 oily holograms after wipe off

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Hey everyone,
Im fairly new to detailing, only started a couple of years ago when I purchased my very first brand new car. It's a black 2014 Mitsubishi Lancer, annoying because every defect is visible from a mile away, bit the look of well maintained black paint is outstanding! I live in Australia, so I needed a wax that could stand up to our extremely harsh summers that easily reach 40 celcius or about 104F+... I read about how great collinite waxes were at standing up to adverse conditions, watched a lot of videos that showed the great shine and water beading you get with these waxes. I gave in and bought myself a tin of 915. These are the steps I took before waxing:
1. wash with megs soft wash gel
2. Clayed with clay magic fine grade clay bar
3. Used ultimate polish with a DA to remove micro marring from the previous clay step
4. Used 915 as my LSP.
Applied it THIN (at least to what my perception of thin is) the wax was spread out so thin that the film could just be seen, made sure there was no buildup of wax in one spot, let it haze and wiped off.
After wipe off I noticed swirls in the paint... i thought it may have been micro marring from my towel but when I went to wipe the swirls changed direction according to the direction of the wipe and yes I do fold my towels in half twice and go through about four faces of the towel per panel. I did an IPA wipedown of half the hood to remove residual oils from ultimate polish (assuming that the two products werent playing well) but it still happened. I went back after 2 hours and did a second wipe down with a high pile plush MF, it seemed to help a little bit there was still oil all over the paint.

hHas anyone had this issue on black or any other colour? Have you found a solution? What is the main cause of this? Im not about to give up on this wax as I have read it can be a bit finicky... but the durability and shine is worth the learning curve I think.
Side note: I have had this problem with 476 as well.

Cheers,
James
 
Welcome it sounds to me the megs was still on there,maybe wash the car and see what happens.Was this performed outside maybe sheet metal was warm.Did you check your applicator that it was clean or dressing the tires via aerosol or pump spray . These could be some trouble shooter promblems.Or maybe your applying way to much collinite.
 
Besides the washing, everything was done in my basement garage which was cool, I use poorboys bold n bright with a MF cloth for tyre shine, and my applicators are always clean before use :)

I may be applying too much but I could have sworn the wax was applied micro thin. I dampen the applicator as well, I read that it helps get it really thin.
 
GSKR said:
Welcome it sounds to me the megs was still on there,maybe wash the car and see what happens.Was this performed outside maybe sheet metal was warm.Did you check your applicator that it was clean or dressing the tires via aerosol or pump spray . These could be some trouble shooter promblems.Or maybe your applying way to much collinite.
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On that car for example,one good application from the can once on a half of hood should be plenty.If your dipping more than once on half the hood maybe it's to much 915 .Try doing half of the car first then proceed.
 
I've never had such problems with any of the collinite waxes, and I've used them all. But, I don't have a Black Mitsubishi Lancer either.

I myself have oddly found #915 to be even more difficult to remove than #476 Super Doublecoat. That I noted letting it dry too long made it much harder to remove. But there were never any oily holograms in any instance, and would assume such is not related.

In fact, I once used #476 to "remove" a very greasy wax I once used years back, on a 1994 Black Lincoln Town Car I owned, and the Lard-like product I'm referring to was a cheaper blue liquid "Zymol" that used to be sold at places like Walmart here. The #476 removed this greasy product lickety split!

I'm not sure what others might say, perhaps try a dampened MF Towel to again wipe down?

With Collinite Pastes, I would always used an applicator dampened with water. I always found it eased application, and permitted greater ease of applying very thin even coats.

Ultimately, Collinite products may just not be for you, and my last comment would be to say that if a product is not working for you, and you're not satisfied, then move on to another product. You may have better luck with a Sealant, and there are some very good ones out there.

Not sure what's available to you there, but two very good sealants are the Wolfgang Paint Sealant 3.0, or Menzerna Powerlock.
 
Apply cold water as you wipe it off should clear the haze up.
 
Um...we used to have a term for this..."sweating" I think.

It's some residual oils, etc. Don't "sweat" it, you probably applied a little too thick for the temperature. I'd give it a little more time, perhaps some time in the sun, a wash, etc.
 
GSKR said:
On that car for example,one good application from the can once on a half of hood should be plenty.If your dipping more than once on half the hood maybe it's to much 915 .Try doing half of the car first then proceed.
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Definitely do not need to load up the apllicator again before half a panel (larger panels) is covered in wax, When I do load the applicator its just one light wipe across the cake of wax... which is plenty to cover half a panel.
 
I'll agree with you on that point Mark... I found 476 much easier to remove too. Still had the same issue with the oily swirls. :(

Its interesting because Ive worked with waxes with a much higher oil content, namely souvran and swissvax samurai but I never had any residual oils left on the paint. Thats what is confusing me the most I think :P

Ive got access to wolfgang 3.0 and Ill probably consider it since Ive read great things about it too.
 
Ok setec has a point let it dry longer due to different temps.If your having the same promblem with 476 than that maybe that's your promblem.Apply the wax let it set up and drag your finger across it.If your finger swipes the wax clean and clear then it's not dry yet.Normally collinite dries hard so it shouldn't give you a swipe clean and clear test.sealants when there dry will give you a indication by swiping your finger across it if it's clear by your finger then it's time to wipe off.Im out of solutions via net so good luck maybe get a can of hi temp 1000 that would be a great product for you there.
 
One test you can maybe perform, is try #915 on another vehicle, preferably dark color as it then will be easier to see if such issues are still occurring?

Or, you can possibly try doing a final wipe with a detailer spray. A detailer spray should harm collinite's durability.
 
Meant to say shouldn't harm the durability, sorry for the typo.
 
I might try it on my mothers car. Its dark blue. Got plenty of bottles of megs quik detailer that I use for clay lube. Like I said in my first post, not about to give up on this wax ! :)
 
james751993 said:
I might try it on my mothers car. Its dark blue. Got plenty of bottles of megs quik detailer that I use for clay lube. Like I said in my first post, not about to give up on this wax ! :)
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Or as an old saying goes about "Keeping it in the Family", how about topping with Collinite #845!? Surely can't hurt anything.

Again, quite odd with #915, as I've never, not in 30 plus years came up with a bad ending with any Collinite product, and this includes waxes such as their Fleetwax as well.

None of us can have your sample in hand to examine, nor test, but as others touched on, possible a beforehand product that caused such? Still, Collinite should be able to come along under almost all and any instances to look great, remove cleanly, and leave rock hard long lasting protection behind.

And also odd you've noticed such with #476 also. I've gone through quite a few cans of this over the years, on my vehicles, and others, and given cans as presents to people. Never a problem to report.

And again, if no joy, and for this particular vehicle, I myself would switch to another product if I had to, why beat your brains out and work yourself unnecessarily?

Lastly, and while I've never experienced such, could it be a finicky paint finish?
 
Maybe there is contamination in the paint and the wax is riding it.He stated he used a fine clay maybe the paint isn't clean enough or the Collinite wax just isn't for him and others.
 
I am no Fan Boy of the Collinite Brands....they are very finicky if put on wrong or too thick (1st hand experience). IMO the weather might be too cold (I am assuming) to where the curing time may take longer. I know there is a huge base of Collinite Fans....I mean no offense if I did.

It's my guess you need a little longer curing time.
 
I found out that it leaves oily residue when ambient temperature is over 30C.
At least in my personal experience, I avoid using in hot environment.
Also, black cars show it more.
With the 476S, I had a slightly better result leaving it in the fridge for one hour before using it.
I have the same problem here, mate, scorching temperatures.
One other thing, with machine application I get better results, probably due to the thinner film obtained.
Best regards
 
Kamakaz1961 said:
I am no Fan Boy of the Collinite Brands....they are very finicky if put on wrong or too thick (1st hand experience). IMO the weather might be too cold (I am assuming) to where the curing time may take longer. I know there is a huge base of Collinite Fans....I mean no offense if I did.

It's my guess you need a little longer curing time.
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I believe the OP mentioned he is in Australia, which right now is their summer. Of course go even further south, to McMurdo, and the South Pole, and summer temps there can reach -85F! LOL

Know a man who'd go there for two months (Nov-Dec) doing Astrophysical Research, called CARA with a team of scientists. C-130's would freeze up solid if shut off when delivering supplies. Batteries bursting like balloons, etc.
 
Also another tip I'll personally share. I never apply-remove any paint protectants in direct sunlight, no matter any manufacturer's claims.
 
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