Meguiar's Car Wash Plus+

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Meguiar's posted up the video for this. For those asking here you go.

 
So this is the opposite of economical and water conserving. How long till California bans this?

this is a weird product and I don't see it taking off with normal people let alone us.
 
So this is the opposite of economical and water conserving. How long till California bans this?

this is a weird product and I don't see it taking off with normal people let alone us.

I don't know if it will "take off". But I do see a place for it. Say it's winter time, below freezing, and I don't have a garage. And I have the winter salt/grime on my vehicle that needs to be wiped for removal. I could go to the pay and spray with just the soap and a mitt (or sponge). Blast off the grit with the first $2.50. Then hit it with the sponge and soap. Then rinse with another $2.50. Minimal equipment, minimal time. Maybe not for the autogeeks, but for the masses, it could be a nice/useful product.
 
Here is where it makes sense to me...one bucket wash.

Rinse car down...one bucket with grit guard.......wet mitt....apply the soap....wash panel....rinse mitt in bucket....rinse panel....move to next panel and repeat???
 
Here is where it makes sense to me...one bucket wash.

Rinse car down...one bucket with grit guard.......wet mitt....apply the soap....wash panel....rinse mitt in bucket....rinse panel....move to next panel and repeat???

You can do a one bucket wash with normal shampoos too...one bucket with grit guard, water and shampoo...pre-rinse one panel...wash one panel...rinse the mitt and panel...dry the panel.

About this product...I too dont see the point but the same was probarbly said about ONR when it first came out. Meguairs will really have to explain the benefits of this or else its not gonna sell.
 
Did anyone else notice the line in the video that said: "With Micro Polishing Agents"
 
Did anyone else notice the line in the video that said: "With Micro Polishing Agents"

Yeah, they were pretty clear about that in the SEMA/MOL introduction. As I said in another thread about this--this really seems like a solution in search of a problem.

I mean I can see how the person that washes their car once every year or two might buy this for the bug/tar "tough dirt" "light scuffs", but selling a product that's going to get used only every year or two doesn't sound like that's going to be very successful.
 
Makes me wonder if CarPro came out with this product if we would be questioning its abilities.

Maybe it'll be the new era of polishing soaps leading to AIO wash products.

2018 - CarPro Essence Wash Soap :dblthumb2:
 
Makes me wonder if CarPro came out with this product if we would be questioning its abilities.

Maybe it'll be the new era of polishing soaps leading to AIO wash products.

I don't think anyone has questioned its abilities, just its marketing position.

Is anyone who is a 'Geek going to use this to remove scuffs or things we would normally remove with clay? I think not...which again, puts the target market as narrow segment of the general car wash market who cares enough to remove those kinds of things but doesn't care enough to use a dedicated product like clay or polish, and also doesn't care enough to wash the car frequently enough to remove those things.

It's a cool idea, it's just suited for a very narrow set of circumstances, IMO, and therefore unlikely to be a success.

Taking it a little further, on the surface, this seems like it might be a good product for a pro detailer looking to give a little oomph to a low-end car wash and give the customer a little more bang for the buck...but why would you use this instead of a clay-alternative mitt?

Perhaps I'm over-thinking this and when some members actually use it, it will be the best thing since sliced bread.
 
I really like the concept.

This would be great for the user who will apply a spray wax after the wash.

It would also be great before polishing, to possibly address contamination that straddles the link between washing an clawing - like thick, flat tar deposits, tree sap, bird drpooings, etc. Sometimes the wash process isn't enough, and the contamination is more than a clay can handle.
 
Many have come out with strong wash products recently: Chemical Guys, Adams, Turtle Wax, etc. But this Meguiars one really shows some promise because of the polishing agents. This definitely knocks down your LSP, took a once over applying it on the Proline sponge to kill Ultimate Fast Finish. Took two applications before Polymer Net Shield was hydrophilic and that's still faster than pulling the out the polisher and going over the paint with a light polish. Rinses cleanly, I wasn't able to check for any potential marring, but whatever abrasives in the formula have to be extremely light if it can't knock PNS down in one go.
 
I pulled this from the thread on MOL

Meguiar's Wash Plus+

How is this on paints that are softer? It would seem like it would have some induced marring on those softer paints.

This was tested & designed on a wide variety of paints. With that said we of course cannot test for ever paint and situation. Since this product is best applied directly to the wash mitt, one of our Tips is to rinse the wash mitt with a blast from the hose to flush out dirt & contaminants, then re-apply the product.

This sounds like a wash that would need polishing/waxing after?

Great point. There are many variables, but in general one application will not completely remove for example a polymer based wax like our Ultimate Wax, but it will knock it down pretty well, so yes, it would be recommended to follow with one of our protectants after an application.

Not only does it sound a little harsh. How often do you have to rinse your wash mitt. Before every application? or does it depend on the amount of dirt on the vehicle? After applying do you have to rinse vehicle?

Sorry for showing how far i am behind. Just trying to grasp all the new products, and technology.

Hi J.A, this is used like a normal car wash except without diluting the product with water in a bucket. For best results we would recommend rinsing your wash mitt just the same as when using a standard two bucket wash method. We would say that most users rinse their wash mitt prior to needing to retrieve more suds, so the same goes for Car Wash Plus +, when more product is needed on the wash mitt, rinse out with the hose first! Yes this product needs to be rinsed off the vehicle, just like a traditional car wash, it is not a water-less or rinse-less product.
 
And now another word from the peanut gallery...

I'm pretty sure there will be a place for this product. It will likely be in the "lazy man's, get it done quick segment". Yeah I know, I know, we all want that convenience but there's a couple of things in that video to question:

1) After the user did the pre-rinse to the car did you notice the surface looked totally clean?
2) How is the surface so clean after only a pre-rinse?
3) If you spray foam your surface, have you ever notice light traces of dirt is still left behind?
4) Remember, when you see traces of dirt left behind after using a pre-soak foam how's the surface totally clean with only water?

This only leaves me with the real world conclusion that using this product means that you are mixing a soapy solution with dirt that's been left behind with very little water on the surface to assist in the removal of remaining dirt. Now I know that we don't use a lot of water when doing a WW or even an RW. However when doing WWs/RWs there is much more water/solution to assist in the removal of remaining dirt. If this product will remove scuff marks as it cleans then that would be like grinding abrasives into the surface without any lubrication.

Those of you who like the idea of this product will probably rip me for this but if your going to use it be careful.

Just my .02
 
Looks like a decontamination product but they don't seem to market it that way. How many people will buy this as a normal wash and contually erode their LSP?

Might be a good booster for normal soap?

They dropped D114 for this?
 
I pulled this from the thread on MOL

Meguiar's Wash Plus+

i dont see what good it is if it strips your wax off, he says wash the mitt after every panel like you would with the two bucket method, thats fine but a two bucket method or traditional car wash soap doesn't strip the wax off your car, i think ill be skipping this one for now.
 
And now another word from the peanut gallery...

I'm pretty sure there will be a place for this product. It will likely be in the "lazy man's, get it done quick segment". Yeah I know, I know, we all want that convenience but there's a couple of things in that video to question:

1) After the user did the pre-rinse to the car did you notice the surface looked totally clean?
2) How is the surface so clean after only a pre-rinse?
3) If you spray foam your surface, have you ever notice light traces of dirt is still left behind?
4) Remember, when you see traces of dirt left behind after using a pre-soak foam how's the surface totally clean with only water?

This only leaves me with the real world conclusion that using this product means that you are mixing a soapy solution with dirt that's been left behind with very little water on the surface to assist in the removal of remaining dirt. Now I know that we don't use a lot of water when doing a WW or even an RW. However when doing WWs/RWs there is much more water/solution to assist in the removal of remaining dirt. If this product will remove scuff marks as it cleans then that would be like grinding abrasives into the surface without any lubrication.

Those of you who like the idea of this product will probably rip me for this but if your going to use it be careful.

Just my .02

they probably only put the abrasives in there to remove scuff marks because the new product was putting them in
 
The only way I could see myself using this product would be after a complete wash. I'd use it as a follow up wash to remove an old LSP.
 
Wash and polish at the same time! Top it with a sealant and easy....sounds interesting


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Think of this on a really trashed vehicle. Wash with this and a nanoscrub mitt and hit it with hydro2 or the new Meg's aerosol "wax" and you've just washed, decon, "polished," and protected the vehicle in not much longer than a standard wash.
 
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