swanicyouth
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So, it`s sort of hard to review a rinseless wash and make it interesting. Basically, this will be pretty short. I`m going assume everyone here knows what a rinseless wash is and pretty much realizes that most of them out there seem to work pretty well.
The blob of silicone on the bottle is to fix a leak. My bottle arrived a leaker and some product was lost. Interestingly, these bottles are different than my old PBMG gallons. The old ones never leaked. Could be just a coincidence. But the old bottles seemed more flexible - and these more rigid? Anyway, product was packed legit from AGO for shipping. Which makes me think something maybe funky with these gallon bottles - as box wasn't thrown around or damaged when it arrived.
So, what is different about this stuff? One main thing - it leaves nothing behind. For me, that is the unique selling point of this stuff.
However, here are some Cliff`s:
1. Smell is sort of unique. Reminds me of strawberry kiwi or something. Very sweet and candy like. Seems a bit stronger than most RWs. Reminds me of a Chemical Guys type scent - but, not in a bad way.
2. Product can be used as a RW, WW, clay lube (duh?), and as a cleaning solution to remove polishing oils (unique for class).
3. Price is quite good ~ $45 a gallon
4. Dilutions are very good ~ 7.5 mls makes 32 oz of WW. Compare that to Pinnacle`s WW - which costs more and requires 1 oz to make the same volume.
5. Color is dark green in undiluted form (think Simple Green) and pale green in RW or WW form (the later below):
So, let`s use it. Mix it up as a RW a little stronger than directed and as a WW as directed:
Bubbles. Yes, bubbles. This products seems to produce a little more bubbles / suds compared to similar products...
Bubble test:
1. ONR 1:16 - bottle shaken 5 times up and down:
No bubbles.
2. Gary Deans Juice (same test):
Some bubbles.
3. N-914 WW dilution (same test)
Many bubbles.
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The "bubbles" have zero effect in function of the product. It doesn`t make/leave bubbles on the paint - just in the bucket or sprayer. If anyone was concerned about "bubbles" - it`s a non-issue; just an interesting footnote.
The bubbling and the "doesn`t leave anything behind" makes me wonder if this has some APC component to it. If this were the case, the undiluted product would *likely* be north of pH 7.
So, I grabbed a pH strip to test it - pretty much neutral:
What`s it like? It`s legit. Very good rinseless wash. The undiluted solution itself is very slick. When you use it, it does seem "different" compared to other RW - your hands feel like they were cleaned with soap and rinsed. You actually feel like it leaves nothing behind. But, it still performs like a good `ol RW. Seems to maybe clean better than others.
There is no buffing this RW off. You just have to dry the car that`s it. I used DI water and all was well.
Car was moderately dirty and pressure washed first (I always do this before RW). I used 4 towels and a GDWM to clean; pre-treating each panel with the WW concentration of the solution. This is always my method of doing a RW.
No pics of dirty hoods, the process, or dirty towels - you all know what that looks like.
Interesting point.... Wheels weren`t too dirty. So, I pressured washed them and proceeded to use N-914 (WW dilution via sprayer) and a Wheel Woolies` boars hair wheel brush to clean the wheel faces. I simply just used the WW solution via a sprayer to clean the wheel faces just like you would use a dedicated wheel cleaner.
The wheels are "coated" (or whatever) recently with CP`s Hydrofoam. Surprisingly, N-914 worked really well at this task. I had dried the faces when done with one of those black PBMG wheel towels. It`s cool washing wheels and not having to rinse off the "soap".
Comparatively, I remember trying this a few years ago with ONR and just not liking the process or results. However, N-914 worked really well for this. Will do again between Hydrofoamings. Saved time over having to rinse a conventional wheel cleaner off. Nice. I like it.
Stuff is also legit on glass. No traditional RW polymer smeariness left over to buff off. Would make an excellent stand alone glass cleaner to boot.
17 year old daily driver wheel cleaned with N-914 (black stuff on lips ain`t ever coming off):
*****After, I took some pics - just to take pics of the old girl.
Summary:
1. Is this stuff good? Yes.
2. Would I buy it again? Yes.
3. Does it work as advertised? Yes
4. Does it seem a bit different because it leaves nothing behind? Yes.
5. Unique product on the market at this time? Yes.
I see this product as being great for a lot of things:
1. People who want to do RW / WW on a coated car.
2. People who want a cheaper alternative to Eraser type products to clean polishing oils off paint in preparation for a coating/sealant.
3. People planning to add another layer of wax/sealant/coating directly AFTER doing a RW/WW.
4. People wanting a RW cleaning solution that`s uniquely versatile - including a legit glass cleaner (off label use)
5. People wanting a RW that isn`t as expensive as others - yet still just a good or better.
6. People who like the smell of strawberries.
The blob of silicone on the bottle is to fix a leak. My bottle arrived a leaker and some product was lost. Interestingly, these bottles are different than my old PBMG gallons. The old ones never leaked. Could be just a coincidence. But the old bottles seemed more flexible - and these more rigid? Anyway, product was packed legit from AGO for shipping. Which makes me think something maybe funky with these gallon bottles - as box wasn't thrown around or damaged when it arrived.
So, what is different about this stuff? One main thing - it leaves nothing behind. For me, that is the unique selling point of this stuff.
However, here are some Cliff`s:
1. Smell is sort of unique. Reminds me of strawberry kiwi or something. Very sweet and candy like. Seems a bit stronger than most RWs. Reminds me of a Chemical Guys type scent - but, not in a bad way.
2. Product can be used as a RW, WW, clay lube (duh?), and as a cleaning solution to remove polishing oils (unique for class).
3. Price is quite good ~ $45 a gallon
4. Dilutions are very good ~ 7.5 mls makes 32 oz of WW. Compare that to Pinnacle`s WW - which costs more and requires 1 oz to make the same volume.
5. Color is dark green in undiluted form (think Simple Green) and pale green in RW or WW form (the later below):
So, let`s use it. Mix it up as a RW a little stronger than directed and as a WW as directed:
Bubbles. Yes, bubbles. This products seems to produce a little more bubbles / suds compared to similar products...
Bubble test:
1. ONR 1:16 - bottle shaken 5 times up and down:
No bubbles.
2. Gary Deans Juice (same test):
Some bubbles.
3. N-914 WW dilution (same test)
Many bubbles.
-----
The "bubbles" have zero effect in function of the product. It doesn`t make/leave bubbles on the paint - just in the bucket or sprayer. If anyone was concerned about "bubbles" - it`s a non-issue; just an interesting footnote.
The bubbling and the "doesn`t leave anything behind" makes me wonder if this has some APC component to it. If this were the case, the undiluted product would *likely* be north of pH 7.
So, I grabbed a pH strip to test it - pretty much neutral:
What`s it like? It`s legit. Very good rinseless wash. The undiluted solution itself is very slick. When you use it, it does seem "different" compared to other RW - your hands feel like they were cleaned with soap and rinsed. You actually feel like it leaves nothing behind. But, it still performs like a good `ol RW. Seems to maybe clean better than others.
There is no buffing this RW off. You just have to dry the car that`s it. I used DI water and all was well.
Car was moderately dirty and pressure washed first (I always do this before RW). I used 4 towels and a GDWM to clean; pre-treating each panel with the WW concentration of the solution. This is always my method of doing a RW.
No pics of dirty hoods, the process, or dirty towels - you all know what that looks like.
Interesting point.... Wheels weren`t too dirty. So, I pressured washed them and proceeded to use N-914 (WW dilution via sprayer) and a Wheel Woolies` boars hair wheel brush to clean the wheel faces. I simply just used the WW solution via a sprayer to clean the wheel faces just like you would use a dedicated wheel cleaner.
The wheels are "coated" (or whatever) recently with CP`s Hydrofoam. Surprisingly, N-914 worked really well at this task. I had dried the faces when done with one of those black PBMG wheel towels. It`s cool washing wheels and not having to rinse off the "soap".
Comparatively, I remember trying this a few years ago with ONR and just not liking the process or results. However, N-914 worked really well for this. Will do again between Hydrofoamings. Saved time over having to rinse a conventional wheel cleaner off. Nice. I like it.
Stuff is also legit on glass. No traditional RW polymer smeariness left over to buff off. Would make an excellent stand alone glass cleaner to boot.
17 year old daily driver wheel cleaned with N-914 (black stuff on lips ain`t ever coming off):
*****After, I took some pics - just to take pics of the old girl.
Summary:
1. Is this stuff good? Yes.
2. Would I buy it again? Yes.
3. Does it work as advertised? Yes
4. Does it seem a bit different because it leaves nothing behind? Yes.
5. Unique product on the market at this time? Yes.
I see this product as being great for a lot of things:
1. People who want to do RW / WW on a coated car.
2. People who want a cheaper alternative to Eraser type products to clean polishing oils off paint in preparation for a coating/sealant.
3. People planning to add another layer of wax/sealant/coating directly AFTER doing a RW/WW.
4. People wanting a RW cleaning solution that`s uniquely versatile - including a legit glass cleaner (off label use)
5. People wanting a RW that isn`t as expensive as others - yet still just a good or better.
6. People who like the smell of strawberries.
