why rinseless

I'm not on the clock, so time isn't really a factor for me. Detail time is relaxing time.

Having said that, I did surprised the neighbor how quick I cleaned up my vehicle the day following rain. Didn't realized he was in the vehicle watching me the whole time. Knocked it out around the half hour (wheels included - D114 @ 1:32). He was impressed with the gloss (Uber), and its scent.
 
Another plus is if you have really hard water from the tap you can use a bucket of distilled for rinseless (one bucket method) and virtually eliminate any water spotting issues. Also gives you the option of washing in sections instead of having to do the whole car all at once, which is useful for those of us in warm climates.
 
Does rinsless take a bunch of towels up though? I imagine if the vehicle is very dirty you're going to have many towels full of dirt?


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yes i start with 12 towels in the bucket soaked in solution. spray a panel well with solution. wipe one swipe with sopping wet cloth (best i have). turn to clean side. wipe one swipe. turn to clean side until all eight sides are dirty. toss cloth in dirty cloth basket. grab another cloth until done. dry with waffle weave.


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glfnaz said:
I like to go to the coin op pressure washer, then do a water-less. Works for me.
Then wipe it down with D 156 or Aqua Wax
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Does this safely remove road grime without scratching the paint? Pressure wash then waterless wash.

KirkH said:
yes i start with 12 towels in the bucket soaked in solution. spray a panel well with solution. wipe one swipe with sopping wet cloth (best i have). turn to clean side. wipe one swipe. turn to clean side until all eight sides are dirty. toss cloth in dirty cloth basket. grab another cloth until done. dry with waffle weave.
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So you have the same solution in a bottle and the bucket with soaked towels, and spray the panel first?
 
hogie said:
rinseless is faster for me. I only get the pressure washer out for chores or under carriage cleaning these days
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what kind of car do you have? i have an suv so rinseless waterless takes me longer and i dont get as good results because its hard to get the wheel wells. by the time i do the paint, the roof, the glass, the exterior trim, the tires all one at a time its way faster to just get the pressure washer/foam cannon and blast all of it off. if i had my own garage id leave the pressure washer all set up to make it even faster.
 
vanev said:
Depends on your methods and the tools on hand.
Also depends on the condition of a vehicle.
Rinseless and waterless can be whatever you want them to be.

You can use a hose, or not.
You can rinse, or not.
You can use water, or not.

You can use spray bottles, pump sprayers, air tools, steamers, crack&crevice tools, etc along with rinseless and waterless products.
Like anything, you get out of it what you put into it.
It is all relative.
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well i think its fair to assume most of us have cars that are in very good shape with a strong coat of wax. to me the difference is with rinseless waterless you are doing everything one thing at a time where as if you are using a pressure washer with foam gun you are doing it all at once. dont get me wrong i still do waterless rinseless for convinience but its not faster imo and isnt as good of a job
 
OP, once you try doing a RW or WW for that matter you'll more easily understand what's going on here. Although I live in an apartment I will never wash my car the old way ever again. In fact, when we get a house, the hose will be for filling the buckets and rinsing off the wheels and wheelwells, that's it.

When you can completely wash a car using 4-6 gallons of water and 2 ounces of solution why wouldn't you. Take the plunge and trust us👈

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fightnews said:
4 i still do waterless rinseless for convinience but its not faster imo and isnt as good of a job
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it's all in the technique.

I can take our van from this:




To this in just over 1hr. My car takes 1hr.




Even on my winter wheels I don't need anything more than Uber Rinseless thanks to them being coated.

 
pdqgp said:
it's all in the technique.

I can take our van from this:




To this in just over 1hr. My car takes 1hr.




Even on my winter wheels I don't need anything more than Uber Rinseless thanks to them being coated.

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Can you tell me how many towels that takes up?


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amalik said:
Can you tell me how many towels that takes up?
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Sure. FWIW I use 16x16 480gsm Eagle Edgless 70/30 Korean towels like the one in my avatar. Add in a couple cheaper AutoZone style MF ones for the door jambs, wheels, underside of bumpers, etc. aka really dirty areas. I fold my towels 3 times providing plenty of clean surface wipe areas to be used......see the one in my avatar.....I'd fold it one more time. When wet and soaking with solution and a car that's been pre-soaked good, there's tons of solution to be had flushing away dirt as I wipe. I'll see if I can dig up a short video I did for a friend showing him.

On the dirty pigged van above 8-12. On normally just rained on 2 weeks of crud maybe 6-8. On my audi I can get away with anywhere from 4-6 pretty easily including drying. I keep her pretty clean most all the time though. Solution wise, on the above Van I used about 2-3 gals. most being in a sprayer. On my car or the van that's not too bad usually about 2 gals total and I always have some left over.

So far as clean up, I take the rags to our wash tub in the laundry area and blast off/rinse them out so they dirt doesn't set in. I then wring them out and air-dry until it's time to wash a full load. Before I wash, I put them all in a bucket and soak for 1-2 days in a mild solution of McKee's APC. Before they go in the washer I wring them out and add in just All Free Detergent, use hot water wash and a double rinse cycle. Tumble dry low.
 
pdqgp said:
Sure. FWIW I use 16x16 480gsm Eagle Edgless 70/30 Korean towels like the one in my avatar. Add in a couple cheaper AutoZone style MF ones for the door jambs, wheels, underside of bumpers, etc. aka really dirty areas. I fold my towels 3 times providing plenty of clean surface wipe areas to be used......see the one in my avatar.....I'd fold it one more time. When wet and soaking with solution and a car that's been pre-soaked good, there's tons of solution to be had flushing away dirt as I wipe. I'll see if I can dig up a short video I did for a friend showing him.

On the dirty pigged van above 8-12. On normally just rained on 2 weeks of crud maybe 6-8. On my audi I can get away with anywhere from 4-6 pretty easily including drying. I keep her pretty clean most all the time though. Solution wise, on the above Van I used about 2-3 gals. most being in a sprayer. On my car or the van that's not too bad usually about 2 gals total and I always have some left over.

So far as clean up, I take the rags to our wash tub in the laundry area and blast off/rinse them out so they dirt doesn't set in. I then wring them out and air-dry until it's time to wash a full load. Before I wash, I put them all in a bucket and soak for 1-2 days in a mild solution of McKee's APC. Before they go in the washer I wring them out and add in just All Free Detergent, use hot water wash and a double rinse cycle. Tumble dry low.
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do u make up a batch in a bucket then put a lid on the leftover to store it for next time? i wanna do this
 
fightnews said:
do u make up a batch in a bucket then put a lid on the leftover to store it for next time? i wanna do this
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Yes/No. I do mix it up in my 5 gal bucket because it has nice markers on it showing capacity so it makes mixing up 3 gals of Uber so easy. Occasionally I'll screw on the lid that comes with it but I tend to keep empty milk jugs or distilled water jugs and use those as I can fit them in my cabinet easier. I tend to keep 2-3 Gals of Wolfgang Uber mixed up in those jugs. Makes it nice and easy.

When I wash I use a small 1 gal pale with a handle to soak my rags. This way if it accidently gets contaminated or what not I don't lose much. Also, it's just plain easier.
 
I save my left over and use it in various ways depending upon the wash method. For instance, if I use 1 bucket aka GD method I save the solution for next time because it's not contaminated with anything. Now if I use the 2BM method that solution left over is used in my 2 gallon hand pump to rinse down the tires, wheels and wheelwells. The reason for this is simple, no matter how well I wring out my Aqua sponge in the rinse bucket the solution mix gets a little dirty.

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pdqgp said:
I fold my towels 3 times providing plenty of clean surface wipe areas to be used......see the one in my avatar.....I'd fold it one more time.
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thanks for the great tip. This will allow me a few more passes from the same towel.
 
I'm a stickler for wheels and wheel wells so for me the pressure washer comes out every time. I also appreciate the extra safety factor that pre-rinsing the paint affords.

That being said I did go through a rinseless washing phase. Have you ever heard of FIFO (first-in-first-out?) It's my little twist to the gdwm to make sure you're using all your towels equally.

Keep one sealed bucket pre-mixed with solution and one empty bucket in the garage. Keep another sealed bucket pre-mixed with solution in the laundry room. When you wash your car, pull towels from the garage bucket and put them in the empty bucket when they're dirty. When you launder the dirty towels, pull them straight from the washing machine and put them in the laundry room bucket. When you finally use all the towels in the garage bucket, switch it with the laundry room bucket, and start the process over. This way you're wearing all your rinseless towels equally and you've always got a bucket ready to go.
 
Wknd Dtlr said:
thanks for the great tip. This will allow me a few more passes from the same towel.
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This is why some preferred 16x24; more divided sections for more passes.


A question to all - How soaked are your towels? Mine are pretty loaded. Since I'm in a carport, I don't mind water on the ground. I understand some keep it minimal as you don't want a big mess in your garage.

Example:


At 5:00 mark, you can see how loaded it is. That's how I like my rinseless media; plenty of lubricity. Really cleans out all the nooks and crannies with ease.
 
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