Rinesless wash in garage ... how to get the tires clean??

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Ok so I thought I would try the rinseless wash again. I have only really done it on the paint. Which actually comes out pretty good.

Tonight I wondered if I could do the whole car in the garage without soaking the floor and get the tires clean.

So I did the whole car got that looking good. Then I used APC and sprayed the tires and the rims. I let that sit for about a minute. Using a stiff brush I scrubbed the tires and saw the foam turn brown and thought it was working pretty good. Clean the rim like usual with the brushes and all. I pretty much used the wheel brush to grab clean water and go over the tire and rims.

I dryed the tire and the rims with a towel. I thought it was going to come out looking real good.


well ... when the tire dried it went back to looking brown and not black like I had hoped.

How do you all do a rinseless wash with tires and actually get them clean? I didnt use Super Degreaser because I was a little worried I couldnt rinse it off well enough.

Thats my second question... how do you make sure that you rinse it off well enough from the tires and rims when doing a rinseless wash on a floor that you dont want to flood?

also when doing a rinseless wash does anyone tackle in inner wheel? and if so .. really how to do you rinse that out??

I know that there is a mobile detail shop around here that only does the rinseless wash and they have no access to water or pressure washer.. they take like 2 or three buckets prepared with ONR and water. So somehow they get it done and I am just not sure what the right way is with this.

I always see people doing it on the car .. but I never see anyone doing on the tires and rims with a rinseless wash.

Thanks for the help!
 
Black fire All in one tire and trim or Mothers back to black tire renew. Both were designed with waterless and rinseless in mind. The blackfire cleans and dresses and Mothers just cleans, choose your own dressing or tire coating. Either option requires no rinse. Or water or anything.

For inner wheel wells I use CG Bare Bones
 
I've used Meguiar's M40, but sometimes it's not strong enough.
 
I personally use EcoTouch wheel cleaner on my wheels and tires when doing rinseless or waterless. WORKS GREAT.
 
I use Mothers Back to Black Tire Renew. For light cleaning and dressing, I use Poorboys Bold n Bright. I found the Blackfire less consistent looking on some tires.
 
cleanmycorolla said:
Black fire All in one tire and trim or Mothers back to black tire renew. Both were designed with waterless and rinseless in mind. The blackfire cleans and dresses and Mothers just cleans, choose your own dressing or tire coating. Either option requires no rinse. Or water or anything.

For inner wheel wells I use CG Bare Bones
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I`ll have to check those out .. but would like to try and stick with the stuff I can buy in gallons and dilute it down.
 
Mike Phillips said:
I cover how to wash/clean wheels and tires in this video...


New Video - How to properly wash your car - Rinseless Wash - Waterless Wash - Gentle Approach - Aggressive Approach



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I have no idea how I missed that. I do have a question. Do you find that the tires dry to be black just using the rinseless wash like that to clean the tire? I used APC and scrubbed till I saw the suds were brown... then I used a wheel brush and went over it with the rinseless wash trying to rinse it off.. and it dried brown again with the smear marks and all.
 
Bunky said:
I use Mothers Back to Black Tire Renew. For light cleaning and dressing, I use Poorboys Bold n Bright. I found the Blackfire less consistent looking on some tires.
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I will have to look into those as well and see how well they work. Thanks
 
There is no way to get dirty brown tires cleaned with a few brush strokes of rinseless wash. That only works for coated tires. You need a stronger product for deep cleaning.

Since I only perform rinseless washes to my vehicles, I've been using Mothers Back to Black Tire Renew. Its a spray on wipe off formula. For the most part it works decent and leaves the tires looking rejuvenated. Since there aren't really other products that are similar its my only go-to for tires at the moment.

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Some tires require more than one scrubbing. I've done some that took 3-4 passes. Per tire. And that's why I don't like doing tires!!! I don't like spending that kind of time on tires
 
Get yourself a 1 or 2 gallon hand pump from your local home improvement store. I've been using a 2 gallon hand pump to rinse off tire and wheel cleaner, even use it up in the wheelwells too. It will take longer than a hose but it works but don't expect miracles up in the wheelwells though, there are limits to everything, LOL!
 
Another thought....cuz 2nd cup of coffee :)

Seeing as to how OP mentioned the garage, he could also do what I occasionally do: Do the tire scrubbing at a local coin-op. I don't think people like when I do that, but I do try and get it done early in the morning, or in the evening, when there is less traffic there.

I take wheel cleaning stuff in a bucket. Go through all four tires and then rinse off. In some cases, I'll have to feed the machine again, and respray with tire cleaner (or APC, etc).

If you want to keep it all in the garage, you can lay down several of your worst MF towels. Tuck them in and around the tires to soak up any of the rinse-off. Kind of messy, but it works, and you don't end up with pooling in the garage.
 
JustJesus said:
Another thought....cuz 2nd cup of coffee :)

Seeing as to how OP mentioned the garage, he could also do what I occasionally do: Do the tire scrubbing at a local coin-op. I don't think people like when I do that, but I do try and get it done early in the morning, or in the evening, when there is less traffic there.

I take wheel cleaning stuff in a bucket. Go through all four tires and then rinse off. In some cases, I'll have to feed the machine again, and respray with tire cleaner (or APC, etc).
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ya thats a thought.

ok so here is why I am trying to do this in the garage.

THE HEAT IS KILLING MEEEE!

When I started this I knew I was going to be hot .. but I didnt expect to literally feel bad the entire day after doing a job.

I would like to move more into the garage with as much as possible. I am getting an electrician out here Thursday for some quotes on more electrical outlets and installing enough lights to blind me. Also I have been looking into air conditioning units for the garage and some fan set ups as well.

I have got to do something about staying cooler when doing this. If I do this outside like I have been then I am doing it in direct sunlight .. there is no shade at all.


I guess if I really had to I could use my pressure washer outside on the wheels first and then pull it in and do the rest of the car inside. I was just trying to avoid having to open the garage .. if I get it air conditioned.
 
Did my post not show up? Did you already try Eco touch and not like it? I see you responded to every one else. Not sure what is going on.
 
dcjredline said:
Did my post not show up? Did you already try Eco touch and not like it? I see you responded to every one else. Not sure what is going on.
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somehow I missed it ... sorry about that ... I try to respond to everyone that posts.

I have not tried eco touch and really I have never heard of it before.

This does good for tires?
 
For tires, you need to reapeat the cleaning process until the foam stays white. If you can't do it on the first pass there are usually two reasons:

1. Your degreaser is not strong enough. If you are using Meguiar's Super Degreaser, 4:1 is what I use and it will to it in 1 pass the vast majority of the time. A trick I use is to add a squirt of dawn soap in my 32 oz bottle for tires so that I can get a lot more suds. It helps keep the cleaner on the wheel instead of dripping down on the floor as well.

2. You might not be agitating enough or your brush is too soft. Make sure to give it a good 30 seconds or more, and agitate in multiple directions : Circles going around the entire tire, left to right, up and down is what I do.

I know Mike likes to use a DA to clean the tires, but to me that seems way too slow. I would have to try it but the idea of having to use a DA doesn't appeal to me. But you could try it and see how it works for you. You might prefer that method.
 
RMarkJr said:
ya thats a thought.

ok so here is why I am trying to do this in the garage.

THE HEAT IS KILLING MEEEE!

When I started this I knew I was going to be hot .. but I didnt expect to literally feel bad the entire day after doing a job.

I would like to move more into the garage with as much as possible. I am getting an electrician out here Thursday for some quotes on more electrical outlets and installing enough lights to blind me. Also I have been looking into air conditioning units for the garage and some fan set ups as well.

I have got to do something about staying cooler when doing this. If I do this outside like I have been then I am doing it in direct sunlight .. there is no shade at all.


I guess if I really had to I could use my pressure washer outside on the wheels first and then pull it in and do the rest of the car inside. I was just trying to avoid having to open the garage .. if I get it air conditioned.
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I might be mistaking you for someone else, but weren't you the guy who wanted to go mobile in an other thread? You said you had a garage, so how come you are doing it outside? If your garage has no water management system or drain, what you could do is wash the car outside then pull it in the garage and dry it there before you do the rest of the detail. What you will want is good lighting on every wall and ceiling, and air conditioning would help a lot if it's really hot and humid.

I am mobile and working in the heat is no fun. Got a heat stroke last year and almost got a second one about 2 weeks later. If you have a garage, use it!
 
evo77 said:
There is no way to get dirty brown tires cleaned with a few brush strokes of rinseless wash. That only works for coated tires. You need a stronger product for deep cleaning.

Since I only perform rinseless washes to my vehicles, I've been using Mothers Back to Black Tire Renew. Its a spray on wipe off formula. For the most part it works decent and leaves the tires looking rejuvenated. Since there aren't really other products that are similar its my only go-to for tires at the moment.

autogeek_2272_109024719
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This is the real deal!! No need for water and it cleans tires better than an APC and a bucket. I've also found dressings last longer when the tire is cleaned with Mothers Back to Black Tire Renew.
 
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