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Well my woefull detailing saga goes like this...


A week ago I washed, clayed by hand, and waxed the car using Meguliar's Ultimate Liquid Wax,
stepped back after a full 2 days of hard work and admired what I had done.


Took the car out on a road trip, with some rain involved and watched the drops bead off the car.
Looked great, until..


I covered the car yesterday as we were and had a number of heavy rainstorm overnight.
When I took off the cover, These spots are what I found on the hood.

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Whatever the reason for being (softened the clearcoat, didn't seal before waxing, my ineptitude
on trying to obtain perfection, etc.), I'm glad the neighbors didn't hear the expletives
I let out upon this unfortunate discovery.


Any ideas on how to remedy this, with/without polishing the whole car?
 
Get a hair dryer and try to blow dry the spots. My guess is moisture trapped in by the cover and a blow dry might help.
 
What kind of car cover are you using? It looks like it's not breathable and is trapping moisture.
 
Bobby, yes it's breathable [as is all to a point]. I mean we've had a couple of true deluges here lately.
I will give the hairdryer a try.
 
Ok, here's what's happened over the last two hours,

Some of the hazy areas have cleared but where they were located are some areas that are heavily pitted, very tiny pits.
There is one spot, photo shows that remains hazy, also with pits, but is refusing to dry.

View attachment 58115

Oxidation?

What can I use to remove the pits that remain. Polish?

Thanks for the help!
 
philipjadler said:
Ok, here's what's happened over the last two hours,

Some of the hazy areas have cleared but where they were located are some areas that are heavily pitted, very tiny pits.
There is one spot, photo shows that remains hazy, also with pits, but is refusing to dry.

View attachment 58115

Oxidation?

What can I use to remove the pits that remain. Polish?

Thanks for the help!
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If there are pits... The moisture might have gotten under the clear coat.

Sounds like you will need repaint soon.
 
I have the Menzerna Intro Kit. If I polish the hood by hand, and then wax and seal, would that help?
 
Hey ronkh57, I'm looking for some constructive info on how to resolve this issue. Gloom and doom one-liners are not what is needed here. Where are all the pro's? I've gone over every single blog related to this topic.

I guess all you AutoGeek experts took off for the weekend and went to the beach!

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philipjadler said:
Hey ronkh57, I'm looking for some constructive info on how to resolve this issue. Gloom and doom one-liners are not what is needed here. Where are all the pro's? I've gone over every single blog related to this topic.

I guess all you AutoGeek experts took off for the weekend and went to the beach!

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Nobody is giving you "Gloom & doom one-liners". Especially Ron. That is not his style, and neither is it the style of any other serious member on here.

Being a smart ass, demanding instant answers, and suggesting that "the pros took the weekend off" is not only condescending, it will surely turn the "pros" off from answering your question.
 
philipjadler said:
Hey ronkh57, I'm looking for some constructive info on how to resolve this issue. Gloom and doom one-liners are not what is needed here. Where are all the pro's? I've gone over every single blog related to this topic.

I guess all you AutoGeek experts took off for the weekend and went to the beach!

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You're very welcome.

Have a nice evening.

If it is "pits" as you say, you're cure is a repaint (in my hack opinion)
 
PaulMys said:
Nobody is giving you "Gloom & doom one-liners". Especially Ron. That is not his style, and neither is it the style of any other serious member on here.

Being a smart ass, demanding instant answers, and suggesting that "the pros took the weekend off" is not only condescending, it will surely turn the "pros" off from answering your question.
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Thanks Paul
 
philipjadler said:
I have the Menzerna Intro Kit.
If I polish the hood by hand,
and then wax and seal,
would that help?
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I'd allow the remainder of the
moisture to evacuate the paint
system's matrix before using the
above products---Those products
will not only seal out contaminates
(including moisture), but will also,
in effect, seal in any entrapments.

•A suggestion:
-Try applying some Isopropyl Alcohol
on a soft cloth and gently wipe the
effected areas. Then..Let the areas
air dry, while the vehicle's parked
out in the Sun.


•Just a thought in passing:
-Have you taken a peek under that
front end cover/bra lately...some
moisture may also have become
trapped underneath that accessory.

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Bob
 
philipjadler said:
Ok, here's what's happened over the last two hours,

Some of the hazy areas have cleared but where they were located are some areas that are heavily pitted, very tiny pits.
There is one spot, photo shows that remains hazy, also with pits, but is refusing to dry.

View attachment 58115

Oxidation?

What can I use to remove the pits that remain. Polish?

Thanks for the help!
Click to expand...

That doesn't look to good? what do you mean by "trying to achieve perfection"? Did you compound and polish the living hell out of it?
 
philipjadler said:
Hey ronkh57, I'm looking for some constructive info on how to resolve this issue. Gloom and doom one-liners are not what is needed here. Where are all the pro's? I've gone over every single blog related to this topic.

I guess all you AutoGeek experts took off for the weekend and went to the beach!

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You get what you give, looks like clear coat failure to me, you probably over polished it. nice job
 
Never polished it. Just light claying and wax


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FUNX650 said:
I'd allow the remainder of the
moisture to evacuate the paint
system's matrix before using the
above products---Those products
will not only seal out contaminates
(including moisture), but will also,
in effect, seal in any entrapments.

•A suggestion:
-Try applying some Isopropyl Alcohol
on a soft cloth and gently wipe the
effected areas. Then..Let the areas
air dry, while the vehicle's parked
out in the Sun.


•Just a thought in passing:
-Have you taken a peek under that
front end cover/bra lately...some
moisture may also have become
trapped underneath that accessory.

IMG_30991.JPG




Bob
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Thanks. I took off the bra, and all is well underneath.

This just appeared, the pits and flat areas out of nowhere! After I clayed and wax the finish was beautiful for a week before I covered it. And the issue is localized inly to the hood.

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I've been reading alot about "solvent pop". Could the pitting be caused by this, and how to fix?

Sorry about some of my frustration banter but I really love my car, and work hard to maintain it.

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philipjadler said:
I've been reading alot about "solvent pop". Could the pitting be caused by this, and how to fix?

Sorry about some of my frustration banter but I really love my car, and work hard to maintain it.

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I've had very tiny pits like that on a car that had a car cover installed outside. Even though the cover fit tight and was tied down in multiple places, small particles of dust and dirt made their way underneath and got rubbed against the paint. It literally sanded tiny pits into certain areas where the cover could move against the paint. I had it tied down to the undercarriage of the car in about 20 different locations, but it still didn't prevent it. The only good thing was in my case it was a project car, so it wasn't that big of a deal. I would never use a car cover outdoors again. It's better to let the car get dirty rather than have the paint get abraded. I would only consider a cover again for indoors, but even then, I'm not sure I would want one. They all will mar to some degree unless you keep them and the paint surgically clean which is tough to do.
 
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