DG 601 combo with 105 AFTER 501 correct?

[PutterMcGavin]

Hi everyone!

I'm currently working on detailing my 2001 Carbon Black M5 and thus far it is going amazingly well! I've washed it really well with Dawn, removed trim and taped up the edges, ran over it with a Clay Magic bar and hit it with a DA with Megs UC 105 on a LC Orange CCS pad. I'm VERY impressed with the results and I've gotten many of the defects out! Though letting the UC dry was a PITA to get off...

I'll be moving to the next step and my Duragloss products. I'm angling towards going the the following steps:

1) Dawn Wash - Two bucket method (DONE)
2) Clay Magic with Megs quick detailer (DONE)
3) DA with Megs UC 105 on LC Orange CCS pad (DONE)
4) DA with DG 501 on LC White CCS Pad
5) DA with DG 105/601 combo on LC Gray CCS Pad
6) DA with Collinite 845 on LC Red Hybrid Pad (...they were on sale)

I'm looking to clean up and complement the M105/Orange pass with the 501/White pass. I'll then look to seal and coat with the 601/105 combo before topping with the 845.

Is that the right approach? 601 with the 105, not 501? I want to make sure I seal as best I can and I was under the impression that the 501 doesn't have much sealant whereas the 601 with the 105 will allow for a better seal and with the 601 as a primer.

Thanks!

 

[Dan K]

Your process looks good. You can apply the 601, let it haze, apply the 105 over it and remove both at the same time; or mix the 601 and 105 together and apply that way.

Probably don't need the 845 on top. Maybe see how you like the looks of the 105 first.

 

[BillyJack]

I mix DG601 with virtually everything DG. Not only does it extend the longevity, it also allows for instant topping. Are you satisfied with the clarity of the finish after the Meg's 105? I use a lot of DG501 for its cleaning ability, but it doesn't really have much swirl-removing ability, IMO. If the finish is not in a LSP-ready condition after the 105, you may want to consider a polish before you apply any sealant instead of the DG501. If you do find it necessary to do a polish step, skip the DG501 and go right to DG105/601, then the 845. FWIW, DG105/601 combined with light polishing pad will clean up any remaining polish or compound haze and allow you immediately start spreading your Collinite.

Bill

 

[ski2]

I don't think 501 contains any abrasives so the pad would be doing the minor correction you want. Feel the same as Dan K-- does 2 coats of sealant 105/845 offer any advantage other than assuring total coverage?

BTW--welcome to AG!!!!

 

[PutterMcGavin]

Your process looks good. You can apply the 601, let it haze, apply the 105 over it and remove both at the same time; or mix the 601 and 105 together and apply that way.

Probably don't need the 845 on top. Maybe see how you like the looks of the 105 first.

Got it and that makes sense. I thought using the 501 with the nano-abrasives before the the 105/601 would help clean up anything from the UC (which flashed quicker than I expected...) and the 845 would help give it a 'deeper' look as the Carbon Black color is quite dynamic.

I mix DG601 with virtually everything DG. Not only does it extend the longevity, it also allows for instant topping. Are you satisfied with the clarity of the finish after the Meg's 105? I use a lot of DG501 for its cleaning ability, but it doesn't really have much swirl-removing ability, IMO. If the finish is not in a LSP-ready condition after the 105, you may want to consider a polish before you apply any sealant instead of the DG501. If you do find it necessary to do a polish step, skip the DG501 and go right to DG105/601, then the 845. FWIW, DG105/601 combined with light polishing pad will clean up any remaining polish or compound haze and allow you immediately start spreading your Collinite.

Bill

I'd say the finish is 90% of the way there after the Meg's 105. The paint was in pretty rough shape, a little more neglect and I'd lean towards a respray. It's a 'project' so I'm VERY happy with what has come up from it. Honestly to get some of the deeper stuff off I'd likely hand it over to a professional with a rotary and wool pad before I damage the paint. This is only my 3rd deep detail and the first clear coat with the previous two being single stage cars so I'm satisfied with it.

I'll probably take the advice I'm hearing though and move to 105/601 before the 845.

I don't think 501 contains any abrasives so the pad would be doing the minor correction you want. Feel the same as Dan K-- does 2 coats of sealant 105/845 offer any advantage other than assuring total coverage?

BTW--welcome to AG!!!!

Good points and thanks for the welcome! The 845 I'd look to use to help get a 'deeper' gloss to the paint. The Carbon Black as mentioned is very rich and can be dark blue, black, purple, gray all depending on the light. The extra gloss can't hurt and shouldn't take tool long hopefully.