Eldorado2k
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Up for 3 days to detail an interior? 22hrs. of detailing in 1 day? Calm down....
How many hours do you professionals work a day?
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JHL88
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yeah.. I really don't see anyone with some sense to pay for an interior detail costing 1/8th of that cars value. Maybe if it was a Ferrari.
custmsprty
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Since the op is talking about an interior cleaning I'm going to take this opportunity to ask a question.
Define the term detailing?
I recently have had to make an adjustment in my career and start to call on vacation resort properties. I have a back ground in packaging and jan san and have been doing this for over 25 years.
We sell more carpet cleaning equipment in a month nation wide than you can even begin to comprehend. Over $2 billion in jan san products yearly which includes janitorila equipment.
So here's the deal.
Housekeeping is a big deal, they clean the entire room. The carpet, the couches, the beds, the bathrooms, kitchens in condos etc. and they are responsible for your vacation experience and most people take them for granted.
So should they be reclassified as room detailers or should those who clean car interiors be considered housekeepers? What's the difference. To me running an extractor in a car or a hotel room or a hallway is the same thing. Whiping a counter or a dashboard with an apc or protectant, same thing. These properties use more cleaners in amonth than you can even begin to imagine and it's a huge exspense for them.
How about vacuuming up peoples garbage, same thing. I just sold one property $10,000 worth of new upright vacuum cleaners. And for quality vacuum cleaners that was a toal of 20, yes $500 each.
In my warped mind automotive detailing is primarily taking care of the exterior of the vehicle. Interior cleaning is basically housekeeping and like housekeepers it's important to pay attention to the details. All the resorts I call on their housekeeping departments have checklists that they fill out for each room on a daily basis.
Restoration of a neglected automotive interior is no different than restoring a neglected property, example a trashed out apartment or house. They call their businesses restoration services, not home detailing services. It's not the same as caring for the exterior. Interior cleaning is part of production detailing and a necessary evil for production detailing. But 40 hours on an interior is not production detailing, it's restoration service and you should charge accordingly. Think about it?
Define the term detailing?
I recently have had to make an adjustment in my career and start to call on vacation resort properties. I have a back ground in packaging and jan san and have been doing this for over 25 years.
We sell more carpet cleaning equipment in a month nation wide than you can even begin to comprehend. Over $2 billion in jan san products yearly which includes janitorila equipment.
So here's the deal.
Housekeeping is a big deal, they clean the entire room. The carpet, the couches, the beds, the bathrooms, kitchens in condos etc. and they are responsible for your vacation experience and most people take them for granted.
So should they be reclassified as room detailers or should those who clean car interiors be considered housekeepers? What's the difference. To me running an extractor in a car or a hotel room or a hallway is the same thing. Whiping a counter or a dashboard with an apc or protectant, same thing. These properties use more cleaners in amonth than you can even begin to imagine and it's a huge exspense for them.
How about vacuuming up peoples garbage, same thing. I just sold one property $10,000 worth of new upright vacuum cleaners. And for quality vacuum cleaners that was a toal of 20, yes $500 each.
In my warped mind automotive detailing is primarily taking care of the exterior of the vehicle. Interior cleaning is basically housekeeping and like housekeepers it's important to pay attention to the details. All the resorts I call on their housekeeping departments have checklists that they fill out for each room on a daily basis.
Restoration of a neglected automotive interior is no different than restoring a neglected property, example a trashed out apartment or house. They call their businesses restoration services, not home detailing services. It's not the same as caring for the exterior. Interior cleaning is part of production detailing and a necessary evil for production detailing. But 40 hours on an interior is not production detailing, it's restoration service and you should charge accordingly. Think about it?
Eldorado2k
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When did he say he was a production detailer?
custmsprty
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What ever e2k we aren't going to be on the same page on this one. You busted my balls a year or so ago on a number of my posts about my own daliy driver and I let you slide, not this time, let it go.
to quote you:
It's a brand new car. You don't really get into your daily driver? You hadn't done the tires in months?
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And you're on Autogeek? I'm confused. Lol.
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I'm just messing with you man. It's gotta be rough dealing with constant rainy weather.
so bro:
I'm just messing with you, it's gotta be tough. LOL............
Eldorado2k
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I agree with you as far as what you're saying... But maybe "productive" would be a better way to describe his situation.
There's gotta be a better way than having to spend anywhere near 40hrs. on the interior. I thought extractors are supposed to speed up the process? Just imagine if you didn't have the extractor and had to manually scrub to get that clean... You'd be dead. Lol.
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I now invest my time daily showing resort properties how to reduce their labor costs. Monday I'll be at a small property, just 500 condos, and that's small and they'd be outa business in a month spending 40 hours cleaning any one small interior like a car.
And you can't manually scrub any carpet and get it clean. You basically remove the top surface dirt but much still remains in the fibers. And extractors never get all the grossness out either. If we took that vehilce and ripped the carpet out you'd step back in disgust because of all the nastiness trapped under neath the carpet. Carpet isn't a liquid barrier, it's a liquid and dirt absorbent.
Anyway, I have a carpet extraction equipment demo and spot cleaning seminar to do next Wednesday at a property with my chemical and equipment manufacturers so I'm going to check out for now.
PS E2K what woud you charge for 40 hours of interior cleaning?
Housekeepers are lucky to make $10.00 an hour and maybe they get some benefits if they are full time. But I doubt that is a reality.
So what? You don't sleep? I work 8 hours a day and as far as I'm concerned its to many
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Sorry guys, stayed up all night again haha and had no chance to reply. I am still working on this car as we speak. I have done hundreds of interiors that are in horrible condition, some going off the 1-10 scale. Some of these carpets like the one I am doing now are very thin and stiff in nature. Even with the best equipment that I have, it does not really matter when it comes to heavily soiled carpets. The carpets that I am working on now was never detailed for the past 10+ years. I probably emptied my mytee extractor 100 times now and still working on the carpets as we speak. I do not do production detailing so for me, it takes times!
Also, I read countless of threads stating why the carpets and seats never look clean after extraction. I have a mytee clear hose and until I have 0 traces of water change when I am extraction, I will still be making passes. Keep in mind that 16 to 22 hours is not every day, but most days. This month was very busy so I probably worked 18 hours a day and 22 hours a day for the past week or two! Here is a text between a client and I this week! Got myself a fat review after hustling with his car and over delivering.
I work very hard not because I have to, but I want to become succesful in this industry! My plan is work hard now when I am young, and get myself a big car wash (hand wash conveyor) and have people work under me so I can rest lol. When I first started, I had 1 car per month. Over delivering and suprassing all expectations with detailing results got me to being #1 detailer in my area and booked 3 months out (non production). Not boasting, but stating hard work pays off!
Also, I read countless of threads stating why the carpets and seats never look clean after extraction. I have a mytee clear hose and until I have 0 traces of water change when I am extraction, I will still be making passes. Keep in mind that 16 to 22 hours is not every day, but most days. This month was very busy so I probably worked 18 hours a day and 22 hours a day for the past week or two! Here is a text between a client and I this week! Got myself a fat review after hustling with his car and over delivering.
I work very hard not because I have to, but I want to become succesful in this industry! My plan is work hard now when I am young, and get myself a big car wash (hand wash conveyor) and have people work under me so I can rest lol. When I first started, I had 1 car per month. Over delivering and suprassing all expectations with detailing results got me to being #1 detailer in my area and booked 3 months out (non production). Not boasting, but stating hard work pays off!
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Having been in business for myself for over twenty years now (not in detailing) what you're doing is going to burn you out and cripple you before it makes you successful.
Doing things this way where it takes you far too much time to ever be profitable is not going to pay your bills.
And it's not going to build you business since the person who wants to pay for a 100 hr interior detail is not the person who will be coming back to you once or twice a month for a wash and vacuum.
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I will just tell you this. I worked hard the past two years and had enough money to afford a 90k car at 27 years old. I charge what I am worth so I am making a profit. I know it is hard work but to become succesful with anything in life, you just need to work harder than your competitors. Buisness is growing. Being booked once a month when I first started and now doing 2-3 cars a day by myself (booked for around 3 months out), buisness is growing at a fast pace. When my dad first came from Korea, his first job was pushing a food cart around the streets for 14 hours a day. Working hard, now he owns couple of buisnesses. To tell you the truth, if you achieve great results via a detail, even if that customer does not come back, he will refer my work to other clients.
That's how I did it worked seven days a week for years and on some occasions Christmas day to get some fleet accts done.If you live lean take all that cash and invest in other small businesses.Let your money work for you.Just acquired a BP gas station with dd inside one hair salon and one detail business. My plan is to sell my house and buy another established strong business. Don't buy things you really don't need live within your means and it will payoff.I do one car perday 6 days a week.
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Great advice, but he went out and bought a $90,000 car LOL. He could have put that toward a business
rops:I had a close friend who did what you are doing. What he did was buy distressed businesses make them profitable and sell em for big profit.
Gas stations, bars etc. Only 1-2 projects at a time so he could keep his regular job.
Eldorado2k
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Great advice, but he went out and bought a $90,000 car LOL. He could have put that toward a business
This.^
Smh... Now there's only 2 possibilities in regards to purchasing a $90,000 car. You either pay that much for a classic that will only go up in value such as a 1958 Eldorado Brougham or a similar guaranteed classic, or you do the complete opposite and purchase a new Cadillac Escalade Platinum Edition, which currently sells brand new for $90,000 and begins deprecating in value the moment you drive off the lot. [same goes for any new or late model vehicle]
I'm really interested to know what kind of vehicles you purchased.. I find it odd that it didn't even get a mention.. The way you said it makes it's pricetag overshadow the actual vehicle, which would be a shame to have spent that much money just to say you spent that much money on a car. Lol.
So what kind of car is it? Pictures please? Go ahead and show off a bit. We're all car guys, so you know we're genuinely interested to see the car.
Maestro Sam
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Purchased a picture on the " how your ride sits now or something". I bought a new 2017 Lexus RCF with all the packages avaiable. The total price was 77,000 and with taxes/shipping and etc, came out to 85,000+. For me, this car is my dream car and I am happy I bought the car working hard. Few more years down the road, I will hopefully get a big car wash facility.
Maestro Sam
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This is what a 40+ hour detailing looks like. Look how bad the seatbelts are...
Picture of my car RCF =)
https://www.autogeekonline.net/foru...re-your-ride-sits-thread-347.html#post1505999
Picture of my car RCF =)
https://www.autogeekonline.net/foru...re-your-ride-sits-thread-347.html#post1505999
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So you bought a brand new Lexus.. For some reason I thought you had cashed out whatever car you purchased. I guess the whole working 22hrs. per day had me thinking a young man could save up $90,000 in no time at that pace. Lol.
I wish I could ask about all the details that entail having to finance a 90k vehicle, but I'm not going to ask you any personal questions... But I can just imagine that it must be a commitment between you and that car now.
It took me a while to find your post... You only have 1 picture of your car? I would've taken about 100 pics if I owned a car that cost that much!
lol.
Heck, I've probably got over 100 pics of my daily driver... I love my Cadillac.
This is my dream car. I'm thinking about buying it. This thing is mint!
I wish I could ask about all the details that entail having to finance a 90k vehicle, but I'm not going to ask you any personal questions... But I can just imagine that it must be a commitment between you and that car now.
It took me a while to find your post... You only have 1 picture of your car? I would've taken about 100 pics if I owned a car that cost that much!
lol. Heck, I've probably got over 100 pics of my daily driver... I love my Cadillac.
This is my dream car. I'm thinking about buying it. This thing is mint!
