Is a carnuba really necessary?

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I have a pearl white car with paint in very good shape. I decided to put winter protection on it so I washed it (2 bucket), clayed, P21S paintwork cleanser, and topped with DG105 with DG601 mixed in. It really turned out well. I have AW to maintain, but I also have some Collinite 915 sitting on the shelf. If I put the Collinite on it will it complicate things when I decide to put the 105/601 back on it after 4-6 months? Sorry, I'm kinda new at this auto protection chemistry stuff.


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Re: Is a carnival really necessary?

Mathwiz said:
I decided to put winter protection on it...
DG105 with DG601 mixed in. It really
turned out well. I have AW to maintain,

I also have some Collinite 915 sitting
on the shelf. If I put the Collinite on it
will it complicate things when I decide
to put the 105/601 back on it after
4-6 months?

Carnival?
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•IMO:
-Ever since the recent closure (ca. 2017)
of The Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey
Circus operations...Carnivals are needed
now, more than ever: "Think of the children..."

-On the otherhand...applying Carnauba
Wax, as a "topper" upon your choice of
Sealants for Winter protection, is not only
not really necessary...but, more than likely,
will also become so drastically compromised
that it would then be a protection non-entity.



Bob
 
"Is a carnuba really necessary?"

No it's not...

Probably was needed in back the day before technology came out with newer and more advance synthetic products.

Tom
 
Just curious, why are you compelled to apply another topper to a finish which you say your self that you're very happy with?
 
DG105/601 great stuff Collinite 915 great stuff have and use both. For protection a lone 105/601 all you need. NOW if you want to change the look 915 might give a little more nuba look. Only if you want to put more on Finish Kare 1000p for a SHINE not glow that's what I would use on pearl white.
 
evo77 said:
Just curious, why are you compelled to apply another topper to a finish which you say your self that you're very happy with?
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The only reason I can think of is because of how much I paid for the 915. If the 105 with a monthly AW treatment will provide protection, I believe I will be content. Besides, I plan to use AW diluted with either distilled H2O or FC&S on a weekly basis. I also just purchased some ONR that I plan to use during the winter months. This regimen is all new to me. I had a little 105/601 left over from the application yesterday, so I'm thinking maybe I should put a second layer on the front, hood, and trunk lid ( the top is entire glass with the pano roof).


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Carnuaba is not dead !!! I still use it on all my garage queens. I still use sealants on all of my daily drivers but I just love the look of carnuaba on reds and blacks.
 
Pats300zx said:
Carnuaba is not dead !!! I still use it on all my garage queens. I still use sealants on all of my daily drivers but I just love the look of carnuaba on reds and blacks.
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This is my philosophy too. I love the look of carnauba waxes, but for my daily drivers sealants and coatings are far more useful due to their durability. If I had a garage queen that I only drove on weekends or special occasions, it would wear a nice carnauba wax.
 
Pats300zx said:
Carnuaba is not dead !!! I still use it on all my garage queens. I still use sealants on all of my daily drivers but I just love the look of carnuaba on reds and blacks.
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BINGO! Well stated and SPOT ON IMO. Carnauba looks best on dark colors, especially Black. I recently worked on 2 Range Rovers and 1 Infiniti QX60. I applied carnauba wax to only 1 ride. That was the Black Range Rover. The other 2 rides were white and pearl white. I used sealant on those. IMO no need for carnauba on White. You really can't tell the difference whether you put carnauba wax or sealant on a White vehicle. Again, that is my opinion. For darker colored cars and especially Black; carnauba is a must. You can tell the difference IMO. More depth and a great wet look. Again, my opinion.
 
In this particular...thread:
Who was it that.......said
Carnauba Wax is.....dead?
:confused: .................confuse-ed.


Bob
 
No one made the statement that carnuba is dead. I originally asked the question "Is it necessary to put a carnuba over a sealant (in my case DG105) if the carnuba would create a issue when I decide to reapply the 105 for continued protection. I was asking in the context of bonding issues.

Actually necessary is not the correct word for me to use. I really should have said "if I use a carnuba over the 105...."

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DG 105 can be topped with anything especially with 601 used. No you might not want to 105 915 105 same day but why would you. The fun part for most on this forum is to use different products to see the result..
 
I have and use DG105 and Colli 915 often and see no issues using either one as a topper. 915 over 105/601 was my winter prep on a black DD two winters ago and it lasted well into late spring before I did my spring polishing. DG105 has some cleaner content, so I would expect it would hook up to Colli OK, especially if it's been on long enough that it's starting to wear thin.
Obviously, conventional wisdom is that we apply the synthetic sealant first, then the carnauba product after, but as Michael Stoops from Meguiars once said about layering, "I've never opened the garage in the morning to find the wax I applied yesterday had fallen to the floor"

Bill
 
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