Microfiber Cleaners???

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For anyone that has ever used 3D Towel Kleen($18/128oz.)

and

any of the other top brands cleaners like Pinnacle, Wolfgang, Mckee's(which are all priced around the same ($15-18/16oz.)

Have you ever seen anything in those top brands that would really justify paying that much more money over the 3D Towel Kleen.

$18/128oz. Compared to $18/16oz. Seems like a big difference if there isn't much of a difference in cleaning quality.
 
I've tried Wolfgang, Micro-Restore, and 3D Towel Kleen.

I'm 99% certain the Wolfgang, Blackfire, Pinnacle, etc. are all basically micro-restore just with added surfactants.

In my experience Micro-restore is very good.

Some guys say 3D Towel Kleen doesn't rinse away as well as Micro-restore.

I personally set my my washing machine to do the "extra rinse" and I add in two ounces of vinegar (which is probably far less than most people) but I honestly can't tell a difference. The biggest thing in my opinion is pre-soaking to break down wax/sealants/silicones and using very little detergent.

I'm going to start using Charlie's Soap (liquid) on my towels. It's a really cheap and concentrated soap that is truly "free and clear" and is really effective on grease. It's all I use on my work clothes, bath towels, etc. It seems work well & keep my clothes really soft without having to using any fabric softeners so I'm going to use it instead of 3D towel Kleen for the next month and see if I can notice any difference (good or bad) with my microfiber towels.
 
For anyone that has ever used 3D Towel Kleen($18/128oz.)

I use 3D and love it. Subscribing to learn more but I'm pretty confident it will hold out as a strong product in this space.
 
When do you add vinegar?




I've tried Wolfgang, Micro-Restore, and 3D Towel Kleen.

I'm 99% certain the Wolfgang, Blackfire, Pinnacle, etc. are all basically micro-restore just with added surfactants.

In my experience Micro-restore is very good.

Some guys say 3D Towel Kleen doesn't rinse away as well as Micro-restore.

I personally set my my washing machine to do the "extra rinse" and I add in two ounces of vinegar (which is probably far less than most people) but I honestly can't tell a difference. The biggest thing in my opinion is pre-soaking to break down wax/sealants/silicones and using very little detergent.

I'm going to start using Charlie's Soap (liquid) on my towels. It's a really cheap and concentrated soap that is truly "free and clear" and is really effective on grease. It's all I use on my work clothes, bath towels, etc. It seems work well & keep my clothes really soft without having to using any fabric softeners so I'm going to use it instead of 3D towel Kleen for the next month and see if I can notice any difference (good or bad) with my microfiber towels.
 
My view on items that are (seemingly) less technical is that there can't be much difference between any of the name/popular brands, and they all do what they are said to do. Assuming that is correct, I typically don't consider the most expensive nor the least expensive and go for the best value of everything inbetween. I set the washer to pre-soak & extra rinse and use cold/cold water.

So far I've used most of the ones listed in this thread and more and frankly am always happy with the one I am using, cuz it's the best deal at the time I bought it.

JeffW
 
I had a bottle of CG fiber wash kicking around that I got for free a while back. Used it as directed in my washer with an extra rinse and a couple ounces of vinegar in the bleach cup. Then tumbled dry on my samsung dryers extra low heat setting as air fluff wasn't cutting it. I think the front loaders are sealed too tight. I tested extra low heat on a few of my less important micro fibers and it didn't harm them at all. Ideally id let them air dry but I was on a time crunch with a job the next day


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From my experience I will disagree that brands don't matter. I was using tide free n clear and switched to All to save money but will be switching back, the All isn't as good.


My view on items that are (seemingly) less technical is that there can't be much difference between any of the name/popular brands, and they all do what they are said to do. Assuming that is correct, I typically don't consider the most expensive nor the least expensive and go for the best value of everything inbetween. I set the washer to pre-soak & extra rinse and use cold/cold water.

So far I've used most of the ones listed in this thread and more and frankly am always happy with the one I am using, cuz it's the best deal at the time I bought it.

JeffW
 
3D Towel Kleen seems to work as well or better for me. I rinse my towels at least twice when using it.
 
I'm going to start using Charlie's Soap (liquid) on my towels. It's a really cheap and concentrated soap that is truly "free and clear" and is really effective on grease. It's all I use on my work clothes, bath towels, etc. It seems work well & keep my clothes really soft without having to using any fabric softeners so I'm going to use it instead of 3D towel Kleen for the next month and see if I can notice any difference (good or bad) with my microfiber towels.

From my experience I will disagree that brands don't matter. I was using tide free n clear and switched to All to save money but will be switching back, the All isn't as good.

Interesting. I've been considering trying out a free and clear detergent as I recall seeing a youtube video from The Rag Company and I believe a chemist from OPT talking about the best cleaner for MF. They said free n clear was a great option.

I checked Walmart and they have a bottle of Purex F&C at 4.6 cents per oz. Sounds like a great value. And based on the rating and reviews, Purex is highly regarded.
 
I use Towel Kleen as well. It performs well, it's cost-effective and it's versatile. I use it in the washing machine with my MF towels, at 4:1 in a spray bottle as a pad cleaner, and to soak used pads as I'm buffing out a car. Great product.
 
For anyone that has ever used 3D Towel Kleen($18/128oz.)

and

any of the other top brands cleaners like Pinnacle, Wolfgang, Mckee's(which are all priced around the same ($15-18/16oz.)

Have you ever seen anything in those top brands that would really justify paying that much more money over the 3D Towel Kleen.

$18/128oz. Compared to $18/16oz. Seems like a big difference if there isn't much of a difference in cleaning quality.

I like the pinnacle one better then the 3d. I buy it by the gallon you only need 2oz for a large load 1oz for a small. The towels come out noticeably better when you use the right amount, less is more with stuff.
 
I’m probably in the minority, but I didn’t get good results with Towel Kleen.

For several years I used Detailer’s Pro Microfiber Cleaner, which worked very well. I was finally near the end of my original gallon, and discovered that the DP Cleaner was no longer available. At the same time, there were several positive reviews for 3D Towel Kleen, and it was so much less expensive than other cleaners, I decided to try it.

After several weeks of using Towel Kleen, I noticed that while the towels were clean, they no longer felt soft and didn’t absorb the rinseless solution in the bucket the way they used to. I had just enough of the old DP Cleaner to wash one batch of towels, and it restored the softness and absorbency.

I finally bought some McKee’s 37 Microfiber Cleaner, after contacting Nick, who said it's an improved version of the original Detailer’s Pro product. All I can say is that it works as well, if not better, than the Detailer’s Pro, and while more expensive than some microfiber cleaners, a gallon will last me a few years, so it’s not a big investment.

I have found that with any of the detergents it’s better to use a little less than the recommended amount, at least until you do a few loads and get an idea of how much you need. To me, a half load or full load, as stated in the directions, doesn't have much meaning, without knowing the number of towels that's supposed to represent. If you check the washer during the rinse cycle, and still see a lot of suds, you’re probably using too much.

I don’t know if the water quality in different parts of the country affects the results, and while some might be very satisfied with Towel Kleen, for me there’s no comparison and I prefer the McKee’s 37 Microfiber Cleaner.
 
I have found that with any of the detergents it’s better to use a little less than the recommended amount, at least until you do a few loads and get an idea of how much you need. To me, a half load or full load, as stated in the directions, doesn't have much meaning, without knowing the number of towels that's supposed to represent. If you check the washer during the rinse cycle, and still see a lot of suds, you’re probably using too much.


Definitely, with the recommended amount of CG Fiberwash I saw very light suds but a noticeable color difference in the wash water that told me stuff was coming out of the towels for sure.

Also highly recommend using the extra rinse cycle as insurance against any leftover detergent and/or residue. And for extra insurance against my wife murdering me, I run a self clean cycle on the washer with a few ounces of vinegar in the detergent cup.
 
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After several weeks of using Towel Kleen, I noticed that while the towels were clean, they no longer felt soft and didn’t absorb the rinseless solution in the bucket the way they used to...
This has been my experience with 3D Towel Kleen as well. I noticed that my CarPro waffle drying towels are not as soft, so I need to find a better alternative. Unfortunately have a gallon of 3D Towel Kleen to use up first.
 
For anyone that has ever used 3D Towel Kleen($18/128oz.)

and

any of the other top brands cleaners like Pinnacle, Wolfgang, Mckee's(which are all priced around the same ($15-18/16oz.)

Have you ever seen anything in those top brands that would really justify paying that much more money over the 3D Towel Kleen.

$18/128oz. Compared to $18/16oz. Seems like a big difference if there isn't much of a difference in cleaning quality.

Once I found/tried 3D its all I've ever bought but because its so cost effective AND great at cleaning the towels, its on back order sometimes, so buy it when its in stock, trust me!
 
I should also mention that I use 3 ounces of Towel Kleen when I run a load of my mf towels and I soak them in clear detergent for a week or so until I get enough to run a load as well.
 
I can't say I've noticed my towels feel any less soft after using Towel Kleen. In fact, I just did a load of Gold Plush towels this weekend with it, and after they had air-dried and I was putting them away, it actually stood out to me how soft my towels were. They felt as soft as new, dare I say even softer.

Like Klasse Act, I also use about 3oz per load. The instructions say to use 2, but I'm generous with detergent even when doing normal laundry. Next time I'll have to check for foaming mid-wash like some people have suggested to make sure I'm not using too much. Hadn't considered that. But I haven't made the machine "bubbled over" yet or anything, sort of like you see in the movies.

That brings me to my one complaint about Towel Kleen, it doesn't come with a measuring cup like regular laundry detergent does. Just a standard cap on it's gallon container. The instructions say to use 2oz per load but how on earth are we supposed to know? At least regular laundry detergents tell you how many lines on the cup to use. I measured the Towel Kleen out the first few times, but now I just eyeball it à la Mike P's "glug glug" method.
 
This has been my experience with 3D Towel Kleen as well. I noticed that my CarPro waffle drying towels are not as soft, so I need to find a better alternative. Unfortunately have a gallon of 3D Towel Kleen to use up first.

Welcome to the AG forum! Do you use a drying aid or WOWA sealants on your waffle weave drying towels? If you are using a spray wax/sealant as a drying aid you may want to presoak your towels in some degreaser or APC prior to washing.

How many oz. of towel kleen do you use? I have had good luck with 1oz. per 15 towels in my top loader (water wasting) washing machine.

Do you do the extra rinse cycle? In your rinse cycle have you tried adding 1-2oz. of distilled vinegar to your rinse cycle?

What other detergents or dedicated microfiber cleaners have you used in the past? Did they produce any better results?

Not trying to bombard you with questions, I'm just trying to provide suggestions because I feel bad that you have to finish up a gallon of detergent that makes your towels less absorbent.

Also, as others have mentioned you could just use it diluted 4:1 in a sprayer to clean your polishing pads. It's especially effective at breaking down waxes and sealants. Then you could buy micro-restore or another microfiber cleaner for washing your towels. Just a suggestion :xyxthumbs:
 
I can't say I've noticed my towels feel any less soft after using Towel Kleen. In fact, I just did a load of Gold Plush towels this weekend with it, and after they had air-dried and I was putting them away, it actually stood out to me how soft my towels were. They felt as soft as new, dare I say even softer.

Like Klasse Act, I also use about 3oz per load. The instructions say to use 2, but I'm generous with detergent even when doing normal laundry. Next time I'll have to check for foaming mid-wash like some people have suggested to make sure I'm not using too much. Hadn't considered that. But I haven't made the machine "bubbled over" yet or anything, sort of like you see in the movies.

That brings me to my one complaint about Towel Kleen, it doesn't come with a measuring cup like regular laundry detergent does. Just a standard cap on it's gallon container. The instructions say to use 2oz per load but how on earth are we supposed to know? At least regular laundry detergents tell you how many lines on the cup to use. I measured the Towel Kleen out the first few times, but now I just eyeball it à la Mike P's "glug glug" method.

Next time you make an order through AG, throw in a few of these 1oz. measuring cups. I use these for everything from measuring out D114 or N-914, car soaps, degreaser for soaking pads, degreaser for soaking towels, and most importantly detergent for washing towels. They are a "must have" IMO

1 oz. Measuring Cups
 
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