Sealant showdown

The Guz said:
Stoops mentions it right here



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Also N914 is not a direct clone of D114. That is speaking from experience in using both. They are similar though.
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How old are those posts now? 4yrs ago? Do you actually believe that to be true after all that's been discussed and tested here on this forum and everywhere else in the past 4yrs? Do you practice that method when it comes time to removing lsp? Because I haven't heard anyone recommend using D114@15:1, 8.1, or any other dilution to remove lsp on here in a very long time...

Also, this community specifically asked for an alternative to D114 as soon as we all found out it was being discontinued. Thankfully Nick@Mckee's got on it and along with the people at Mckee's came N-914, which was deliberately made to produce the same exact characteristics and user experience that was no longer available on the market with D114's departure. Nick did in fact try to mimic it to a T, and that's what everyone wanted.

But according to your post, you're saying that Nick somehow left out such a distinctive characteristic found in D114 and didn't include it in N-914 and top it off failed to mention it to everyone?

You're saying D114 at stronger dilutions can strip lsp but N-914 can't, and we just now found out about this major detail? And all this time I thought the only thing anyone came up with was that N-914 beads whereas D114 lays flat on the panel... How did we all miss this?

Btw I use both as well, and I would've never guessed D114 can strip lsp and N-914 cannot.

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Why does everyone recommend polishing in order to be certain their lsp is removed? According to our good friend The Guz all we need is some D114@15:1
 
Eldorado2k said:
According to our good friend The Guz all we need is some D114@15:1
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You certainly interpret things differently because I did not mention this anywhere other than posting what has been stated by Meguiar's themselves.
 
The Guz said:
You certainly interpret things differently because I did not mention this anywhere other than posting what has been stated by Meguiar's themselves.
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Would you post their words without supporting what it says?
 
The Guz said:
I'm posting what has been said by the manufacturer whether I support it or not.
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That's kind of leaving then high & dry... I mean Mike Stoops didn't ask for his 4yr. old posts to be part of this discussion. I've got nothing but respect for Stoops, I'll leave it at that.

But one would assume that if you took the time to post it, you subscribe to the statement? No?

... Because it's not as if anyone these days goes around using D114 @15:1 to remove lsp. And you did make it seem as if that's 1 of the differences between it and N-914, correct? Or did I interpret that wrong as well? Just sayin.
 
Eldorado2k said:
They work the exact same way... N-914 is a clone of D114.
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Here's one for you. How do you know they are a clone of each other? Did you work with the chemists that came up with D114 and N914?
 
The Guz said:
Here's one for you. How do you know they are a clone of each other? Did you work with the chemists that came up with D114 and N914?
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Because Nick did a favor to all the people who were crying wolf about D114 being discontinued. The favor he did was set out to create a rinseless wash concentrate that worked exactly the way the now discontinued D114 did... You should know, you were a vital part in dropping the initial message about D114 being no longer...

Heck, you knew even before Stoops did! Just like you know that N-914 is in fact a welcome clone of D114. It doesn't take a jury to figure it out.

Ask anyone here.
 
DogRescuer said:
Wow guys.
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Don't worry, just boys being boys. I've met The Guz irl and it's nothing but good from him, and there's no way there could ever be any kind of actual negativity between him and I. I'm pretty sure he feels the same way because we'll be just fine next time. It's no worries, just boys being boys. Lol.
 
Eldorado2k said:
Don't worry, just boys being boys. I've met The Guz irl and it's nothing but good from him, and there's no way there could ever be any kind of actual negativity between him and I. I'm pretty sure he feels the same way because we'll be just fine next time. It's no worries, just boys being boys. Lol.
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Gotcha
 
ChrisT said:
I haven’t had that problem yet. I put it on my personal car four weeks ago and it’s still performing great. I do use a mix of Reload and ECH02 as a QD so that is probably affecting my results.

I ordered some Hydr02 today and am interested in seeing how that does.
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I hated reload a couple years ago, I had all sorts of trouble with it on my Chevrolet C7. But the new stuff is fantastic, I’ve got it on two cars and a bike, and it just looks great after several months. I’m also a huge believer now in ECH02...

Btw, Here’s my review of Hydro2:

http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum...460-easy-effective-way-clean-seal-wheels.html
 
Cruzscarwash said:
I love echo2o as well but it attracts sooo much dust!!

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I find the opposite for me with ech20. But then again you are in a more dusty environment so it makes sense.
 
The Guz said:
I find the opposite for me with ech20. But then again you are in a more dusty environment so it makes sense.
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ech20 can also be used in the heat/sun and it doesn't streak...
 
Cruzscarwash said:
Whoa, it was a major streaker for me

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when i first made a qd with ech20 i diluted 5:1 (i use it at 10:1 now) and it worked well in the hot summer heat. i used it clean the front windshield/bumper in 90+ degrees and experienced no streaking which surprised me. it's one product i don't regret purchasing...
 
I heard someone is exercising kong-fu over Meguires product but I don't see master Bob anywhere.
 
Nope, cancoat looks just as good as the day it was applied

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Cruzscarwash said:
I think rippy did reload and it stopped fairly quickly

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Very late reply. Have to check my notes, but I see Reload being in the 3-4 week category. Not terrible given how easy it is to apply, but certainly not long a long lasting sealant. I have to wonder what's going on when people say they're getting 3-6 months from it. Different conditions, or using a wash with wax or booster that masks what's happening? Not sure...
 
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