Can't get rid of Tire Browning

[willowcat11]

Hey guys, I'm cleaning a 14' Camry today. I came across this browning on the tires.

I used 3 applications of Megs d143, after not getting rid of it after that, I used 3 applications Mckee's Tire and Rubber Rejuvenator. Scrubbing very well with each application.

What's the deal? I thought the Tire and Rubber rejuvenator was sorta supposed to specialize in getting rid of browning.

Any help is Greatly Appreciated!




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[willowcat11]

Sorry, here's a picture.

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[fightnews]

You don't have to get rid of every last Trace if you're using the McKees Tire coating. I have the same thing on my car because the tires are 3 years old you'll never get all the brown off but it will look good after you coat it you won't see it

 

[UncleDavy]

Exactly. There will always be some type of brown on the tires, especially older tires like those. A good tire dressing should straighten that right out.

 

[Android]

Sometimes I will use Bleche-Wite by Black Majic to get rid of old tire dressings when I want to apply a new dressing . It works for me to really clean tires , but like some have said on older tires you will always have some browning and a tire dressing usually helps out .

 

[FUNX650]

"Every tire has its own predisposition
to blooming (browning). This depends
on factors such as: the rubber/rubber
blend; the type of tire; how and where
you drive; etc.

However, regular cleaning and protecting
procedures will help you prolong the tires'
expected service-life."

Source:
Michelin FAQs


Bob

 

[willowcat11]

You guys are Awesome! Thankyou Very much for your help. I would have spent all day trying to scrub those dang things! Lol

 

[Rsurfer]

Like FUNX650 said, you may or may not get rid of all the tire blooming.

 

[PurpleTowel]

Sometimes I will use Bleche-Wite by Black Majic to get rid of old tire dressings when I want to apply a new dressing . It works for me to really clean tires , but like some have said on older tires you will always have some browning and a tire dressing usually helps out .

This. Plus, I have also found that Meguiar's Hot Rims wheel and tire cleaner works VERY well on de-blooming tires. Better than D143, which many people claim is the same as Hot Rims.

 

[Brandon Wetch]

Just give it one pass then dress them


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[RippyD]

This. Plus, I have also found that Meguiar's Hot Rims wheel and tire cleaner works VERY well on de-blooming tires. Better than D143, which many people claim is the same as Hot Rims.

They're simliar based listed chemical ingredients. Hot Rims Wheel and Tire has an additional detergent (Sodium Olefin Sulfonate). Otherwise the same thing roughly - exact percentages not given. Could be the additional cleaner makes a difference on browning.

I've read a few posts about D143 not removing browning very well. Have no first-hand experience.

 

[Finick]

They're simliar based listed chemical ingredients. Hot Rims Wheel and Tire has an additional detergent (Sodium Olefin Sulfonate). Otherwise the same thing roughly - exact percentages not given. Could be the additional cleaner makes a difference on browning.

I've read a few posts about D143 not removing browning very well. Have no first-hand experience.

I really enjoy D143, it’s one of my favorite chemicals I’ve purchased. I had an issue with it not seeming to clean my tires as well before I swapped to a water based dressing, but ever since then I haven’t seen any issues.

Diluted at 2:1 it didn’t seem to have enough bite to strip off the meguiars hot shine tire spray, but it does fine cleaning VRP off.

id really like to try the McKee’s tire and rubber rejuvenator (I think that’s the name of their tire cleaner.)

 

[DogRescuer]

Scrub it dress it done.

 

[willowcat11]

I really enjoy D143, it’s one of my favorite chemicals I’ve purchased. I had an issue with it not seeming to clean my tires as well before I swapped to a water based dressing, but ever since then I haven’t seen any issues.

Diluted at 2:1 it didn’t seem to have enough bite to strip off the meguiars hot shine tire spray, but it does fine cleaning VRP off.

id really like to try the McKee’s tire and rubber rejuvenator (I think that’s the name of their tire cleaner.)

The Mckee's Tire and Rubber Rejuvenator has worked very well for me. I was just stumped this time as to why it didn't remove the browning.

But as a number of guys have posted. Her tires are very old. In fact she is buying new ones soon. So it wasnt The Mckee's fault. I'll will still enjoy using it.

 

[JCDetails]

I really enjoy D143, it’s one of my favorite chemicals I’ve purchased. I had an issue with it not seeming to clean my tires as well before I swapped to a water based dressing, but ever since then I haven’t seen any issues.

Diluted at 2:1 it didn’t seem to have enough bite to strip off the meguiars hot shine tire spray, but it does fine cleaning VRP off.

id really like to try the McKee’s tire and rubber rejuvenator (I think that’s the name of their tire cleaner.)

It really isn't strong enough at 3:1 as recommended on the bottle or even at 2:1. I tend to shoot for 1.5:1 and it probably winds up being closer to 1:1 if I'm not careful with the spring pump I have on the gallon bottle.

Here's how it looked on some really nasty tires I did this weekend at around about 1.5:1

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(Note: sprayed out of a standard HDX sprayer...no agitation in that pic)


And then agitated with a stiff bristle brush:

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[Finick]

It really isn't strong enough at 3:1 as recommended on the bottle or even at 2:1. I tend to shoot for 1.5:1 and it probably winds up being closer to 1:1 if I'm not careful with the spring pump I have on the gallon bottle.

Here's how it looked on some really nasty tires I did this weekend at around about 1.5:1

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Maybe I should just mix it up stronger for when I clean relatives wheels, it’s pretty inexpensive either way lol.

My gf was kind enough to get me a spray bottle of super clean when she was at Wally World recently and I’ve been diluting that at 4:1, and that stuff eats whatever I throw at it right off tires, it’s pretty impressive.

 

[JCDetails]

Maybe I should just mix it up stronger for when I clean relatives wheels, it’s pretty inexpensive either way lol.

My gf was kind enough to get me a spray bottle of super clean when she was at Wally World recently and I’ve been diluting that at 4:1, and that stuff eats whatever I throw at it right off tires, it’s pretty impressive.

Highly recommend a stronger solution of 143. At $20 (+/- $3 depending on source) per gallon, even diluted 1:1 you're getting 2 gallons (256oz) of RTU wheel and tire cleaner. I just make sure to over-rinse after use especially on the tires to make sure I get it all off so that there's no staining left behind.


Hot rims at ~$6 per 24oz is approximately $64 for the equivalent quantity (256oz / 24oz per HR bottle = 10.67 bottles, $6 per)


I really like super clean and what it can do, but for me it doesn't make sense to have a separate tire-only product when D143 does a great job on wheels and tires in one product. Same reason I haven't bought super degreaser yet.

 

[Finick]

Highly recommend a stronger solution of 143. At $20 (+/- $3 depending on source) per gallon, even diluted 1:1 you're getting 2 gallons (256oz) of RTU wheel and tire cleaner.


Hot rims at ~$6 per 24oz is approximately $64 for the equivalent quantity (256oz / 24oz per HR bottle = 10.67 bottles, $6 per)


I really like super clean and what it can do, but for me it doesn't make sense to have a separate tire-only product when D143 does a great job on wheels and tires in one product. Same reason I haven't bought super degreaser yet.

Yeah it makes sense, it’s economical at any dilution for sure.

When it comes to pretty neglected wheels in particular do you find D143 to be adequate in cleaning them up? I’ve honestly never tried it on my family members wheels that are exceptionally neglected (never cleaned.) I usually hit those with d140 and then never have to again.

 

[JCDetails]

Yeah it makes sense, it’s economical at any dilution for sure.

When it comes to pretty neglected wheels in particular do you find D143 to be adequate in cleaning them up? I’ve honestly never tried it on my family members wheels that are exceptionally neglected (never cleaned.) I usually hit those with d140 and then never have to again.

D140 is awesome, and highly effective stuff. I don't have any of it right now but I used to use it in the past. I find that the strong D143 mix plus agitation with the right brushes can get most of the heavy lifting done.


I usually reach for an iron remover for the heavily contaminated wheels as of late, but they're a lot more money than 140 so I'm starting to reconsider that plan. I may switch to something like 140 for heavy rim work and then save Gyeon Iron for paintwork.

 

[Finick]

D140 is awesome, and highly effective stuff. I don't have any of it right now but I used to use it in the past. I find that the strong D143 mix plus agitation with the right brushes can get most of the heavy lifting done.


I usually reach for an iron remover for the heavily contaminated wheels as of late, but they're a lot more money than 140 so I'm starting to reconsider that plan. I may switch to something like 140 for heavy rim work and then save Gyeon Iron for paintwork.

Good to know.

https://www.autogeek.net/kwazar-pro-super-foamer.html

I was considering getting one of these during the next free shipping sale to play with D143 in, curious how well the foam will cling as opposed to just using their regular sprayer. Also save my poor finger from using the trigger so much, I think my right index finger has abs by now.