Yes, I bought a KIA

Eldorado2k said:
Yea but sometimes it boils down to marketing and society’s perception, over actual substance... Make a great commercial and place it at the perfect time when the whole world is watching and see what happens. Heck, people were going nuts over sorry cars like the Dodge Dart, Mitsubishi Highlander [or is it Outlander]? and a bunch of other lame cars simply based on a captivating commercial.

The reality is that the smart buyers are outnumbered by the less smart who are hooked by what’s perceived to be “cool” or even high quality.. Just look at Mercedes Benz for example, they’re not top notch these days the way they’re perceived to be, at least their entry level vehicles aren’t. And their fake leather [aka M-Tex] is the absolute worst I’ve ever seen in any luxury vehicle.
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MB went downhill when they owned a Chrysler. It bled them. They have been getting better since getting rid of them. Look at the reliability of the E Class ( their bread & better). CR shows it’s been reliable and is recommended. As for their entry level CLA. They did it to get the low end of the market. As C&D said in their review, pay 1/2 for a MB, get half of a MB. It’s not truly representative of a Real (for lack of a better word) MB.
 
dudley07726 said:
MB went downhill when they owned a Chrysler. It bled them. They have been getting better since getting rid of them. Look at the reliability of the E Class ( their bread & better). CR shows it’s been reliable and is recommended. As for their entry level CLA. They did it to get the low end of the market. As C&D said in their review, pay 1/2 for a MB, get half of a MB. It’s not truly representative of a Real (for lack of a better word) MB.
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I agree about the C Class. IMO alot of people who buy those cars are trying hard to look the part, but probably would’ve been better off buying a well equipped Honda or something.

As far as the higher end Mercedes being reliable, isn’t it more like reliable if they’re properly maintained? And doesn’t that proper maintenance usually cost a fortune? Not saying that’s a dealbreaker or anything, because TBO anyone who sets out to buy a high end luxury vehicle better have the money to handle it.

I’m not sure if the situation in the dudes video is typical, but it’s interesting and entertaining to see the insane list of recommended maintenance this Mercedes SL55 AMG needs when he has the dealer take a look at it.


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Calendyr said:
Do you still have a copy of it? I am really curious to see what they inquire about!

In my mind, it would all be based on issues with the vehicle. So for instance, a car that doesn't have good handling, or has a bad power delivery should not be part of the list. What they want to know is if the car is reliable, not if it's a good car.
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No, they were done online with a code I received in the mail. It wasn't even reliability questions! It was dumb things like "how does the ac work while in the back seat?" SO useless!
 
DetailKitty said:
No, they were done online with a code I received in the mail. It wasn't even reliability questions! It was dumb things like "how does the ac work while in the back seat?" SO useless!
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My questionnaire from CR didn’t have that type of questions. It asked me if I had any problems in specific areas like suspension, fuel line, brakes, paint & trim, electronics and quite a few more.
 
Calendyr said:
Do you still have a copy of it? I am really curious to see what they inquire about!

In my mind, it would all be based on issues with the vehicle. So for instance, a car that doesn't have good handling, or has a bad power delivery should not be part of the list. What they want to know is if the car is reliable, not if it's a good car.
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My questionnaire had all to do with issues with the car. Nothing about if the AC worked well in the rear. Nothing about how it handled or power delivery. CR does it’s own testing for those. They rely on subscribers answering questions about reliability of the vehicle in specific areas.
 
Derek has drill this weekend where he's doing some road miles, so its going to be interesting to hear about its mileage on a pure freeway trip as well as driving impressions on this trip. So far alot of people are rubbernecking over his car but then again he's in Detroit, not alot of those around there. I've seen about 7 of them out here but then again I'm in Chicago, noone is "brow beaten" into buying/driving American here like back home. Heck, I've seen countless used import cars with union worker bumper stickers on them, LOL, you'd never see that back home.

Looking forward to he thoughts on Monday!
 
***BREAKING NEWS***

Hyundai to offer 3 pedals on the G70 While you're here, 2.0L turbo and RWD only.

I know there aren't going to be many opted for but tip of the enthusiast cap for trying, a lot more than GM, Ford and FCA are doing

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Klasse Act said:
***BREAKING NEWS***

Hyundai to offer 3 pedals on the G70 While you're here, 2.0L turbo and RWD only.

I know there aren't going to be many opted for but tip of the enthusiast cap for trying, a lot more than GM, Ford and FCA are doing

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How does this vehicle compare to the CTS-V?
 
Eldorado2k said:
How does this vehicle compare to the CTS-V?
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Well, they are both RWD and have 4 doors but that's about as far as how they compare, LOL. The Hyundai has 255 hp while the CTS-V has 640 HP, quite a price difference too.

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Klasse Act said:
Well, they are both RWD and have 4 doors but that's about as far as how they compare, LOL. The Hyundai has 255 hp while the CTS-V has 640 HP, quite a price difference too.

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Klasse Act said:
tip of the enthusiast cap for trying, a lot more than GM, Ford and FCA are doing

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I was expecting some real competition after reading your previous comment.lol.
 
Eldorado2k said:
I was expecting some real competition after reading your previous comment.lol.
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At $86,000+ grand for a CTS-V how many of those overpriced cars does Chevrocaddy sell a year?

2017 10,344

2016 15,911

2015 19,485

2014 31,115

Talk about a drop off in sales!!!
 
Eldorado2k said:
I wouldn’t classify it as somekind of Chevrocaddy. This ain’t no Cimmaron.
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But it's also not fair to compare it to a car that may cost $35,000 to $40,000 grand. Compare it to the comprable Audi, Benz, BMW, Lexus in it's price class.

And as far as I'm concerned any vehicle made by parent company General Motors is just that, name or badge mean nothing to me.
 
custmsprty said:
At $86,000+ grand for a CTS-V how many of those overpriced cars does Chevrocaddy sell a year?

2017 10,344

2016 15,911

2015 19,485

2014 31,115

Talk about a drop off in sales!!!
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That’s simply because it went from a small sized entry level Cadillac sedan starting @$30k in 2013, to a full size luxury sports sedan priced between $55-$82k in 2014. Don’t try to make the numbers seem outrageous. You’re not shocking anyone. Lol.
 
custmsprty said:
But it's also not fair to compare it to a car that may cost $35,000 to $40,000 grand. Compare it to the comprable Audi, Benz, BMW, Lexus in it's price class.

And as far as I'm concerned any vehicle made by parent company General Motors is just that, name or badge mean nothing to me.
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He said this...

Klasse Act said:
tip of the enthusiast cap for trying, a lot more than GM, Ford and FCA are doing

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Am I wrong for thinking the car he was talking about was something GM isn’t currently doing? That’s a bold statement. That’s why I asked.

And if name and badge mean nothing, why aren’t they all rolling off the same assembly line? Same materials? Same engines?
 
Eldorado2k said:
That’s simply because it went from a small sized entry level Cadillac sedan starting @$30k in 2013, to a full size luxury sports sedan priced between $55-$82k in 2014. Don’t try to make the numbers seem outrageous. You’re not shocking anyone. Lol.
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With those kind of sales numbers it won't be around for long, and the resale value drops like a rock. 30% in it's first year from what I found on the internet.
 
custmsprty said:
With those kind of sales numbers it won't be around for long, and the resale value drops like a rock. 30% in it's first year from what I found on the internet.
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They messed up. They tried to get greedy and screwed their golden goose.
 
Cadillac is trying to play marketing games with the consumer by over pricing their cars and offer ridiculously low lease offers or massive rebates. This method has the consumer believe that they are getting a great deal when they are only hurting their wallet when it comes to resale value. Most luxury brands have horrendous resale values, but Cadillac has to be one of the worst.

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