Yes, I bought a KIA

That Stinger is also not stock either, LOL

Not anymore I know that. IIRC he's running a LAP3 boost controller. Similar set up to what I'm running but I'm not sure how much boost over stock he's dialed in.
 
I think it's piggy-back actually or is that what you mean, just calling the samething by a different name

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Not bad but keep in mind that track is just a few feet above sea level. I wish we had a track near me at that same elevation.
It is just cool to see a car that no one expects to be fast, keep up with a well known sports car. It is a bit of a sleeper. The kia doesnt sound stock though.

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I think it's totally hilarious how these threads always turn into a this car is faster or better than that car.

Buy what you like, drive it and enjoy it.

:cruisin:

I’m with you, I like classic muscle all the way thru modern American muscle & imports. People need to learn on how broaden their horizons.


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I think it's piggy-back actually or is that what you mean, just calling the samething by a different name

basically a piggy back is just fooling the car as to what boost level it's running. The MAP sensors will read boost pressure and sends that reading back to the stock ECU. The chip on the piggy back will high-jack data and send it's own computations back the ECU so that it will call for more boost and the vehicle will regulate the AF Ratios and what not to accommodate for it.

I don't know much about the LAP units overall but what I do know it's not much different than other units and functions as noted above. LAP tends to target the Korean market.

On my car I can configure the boost to be a flat 3psi bump across the rpm range, I can graduate it or I can step it up and down. the car will control all the other aspects to accommodate the boost levels. The cool thing is it's easy on/off, just two connectors per turbo and that's it.

On the Stinger I've seen some of them require new plugs and some are going through coil packs. There are two around me that are in the early stages of mods and testing things out. I've been around boosted cars and tunes/tuners for them for nearly 20+ years and if it were me, I'd wait until they work out the bugs as burning through plugs and coils and requiring higher Octane even no low levels of boost tells me they have some work to do. Hopefully those guys are logging their cars.
 
Derek said as much to me earlier

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Derek said as much to me earlier

Gadgets like these are what make boosted cars fun. I used a JB4 on one of my past BMW's and I've had full tunes on both my AMG and then my Audi. I ran a basic JB1 on my wife's Benz and now back to the JB4 on my Q50. AMS has a great tune available for my car putting down 505hp/550tq. IIRC there are a couple in Chicago running that set up. Pretty awesome but IMO to do it right requires other items and since I'm leasing I'm not going to sink that money into it. If she runs low to mid 12's at 115mph or so I'll be happy. I'm more curious to see if I can pull off the trap speeds as outside the AWD Grip, that's where the real differentiation on the street is at. So far she's strong as I've run a few cars on the highway and she pulls very strong. The exciting part is my wife may go AMG this time so I'm getting ready for that. Not a done deal yet but we'll see.
 
Not to jump off track, but since warranty has come up. I have a co worker who owns a KIA, don't know the model, one of the smaller ones. However sometime ago in a brief conversation she said that KIA told her she has to get her oil changed at the dealer or her warranty could be voided. Any truth to that?

Kia has engine problems, and not just with the engines mentioned in this recall:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jensen...tion-kia-recalls-faulty-engines/#6d2774444cb7

My son's 2012 Kia Forte blew it's engine with this same oil flow issue last month @ 85,000 miles. Kia won't cover it since it's not part of the recall. $4,000 out of my son's pocket. I'm pressing the issue and hoping the recall will be expanded.
 
Kia has engine problems, and not just with the engines mentioned in this recall:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jensen...tion-kia-recalls-faulty-engines/#6d2774444cb7

My son's 2012 Kia Forte blew it's engine with this same oil flow issue last month @ 85,000 miles. Kia won't cover it since it's not part of the recall. $4,000 out of my son's pocket. I'm pressing the issue and hoping the recall will be expanded.
Sorry to hear about this but serious question, is the car worth $4k to put the money into?

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Engine issues are across the board for various reasons, look at Ford for instance. You've got the RS issue and GT350 issues, hell, my buddy out east dropped cylinder #8 in his 16' Mustang GT Track Pak. A buddy here with the above mentioned GT350 had to have his engine replaced and then the replacement engine was bad, don't seem to hear the ragging about this though. IIRC FCA has some issues with their perf HEMI's too.

I had a 2007 MINI Cooper S...where would you like me to start!!

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I just received a notification that Ford is recalling all Fusions because some steering wheels are falling off, for anyone that drives a Ford Fusion.

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Sorry to hear about this but serious question, is the car worth $4k to put the money into?

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Good question, he thought about it, decided it was worth it. It's still in nice shape. He's a mechanical engineer, so smarter than me. The replacement engine has 25K on it, so we'll see if this one lasts. I did not know about the recall on other Kia engines at the time. I've never had a blown engine and don't know anybody who has. Probably ignorance on my part, but I expect engines to be pretty much bullet-proof these days. The performance engines are a different category, as you allude to.
 
I expect engines to be pretty
much bullet-proof these days.

The performance engines are
a different category...
:iagree:...yet, sometimes:
things just happen:

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Bob
 
I had 2004 Saab 9-3 with a GM Ecotec (B207R) 2.0T. Dropped a cylinder with 35,000 miles on the car. I split the cost of a rebuild with GM and had the dealer throw in some upgrades I purchased. My wife’s brand new 2012 Dodge Journey had it’s engine replaced with 300 miles on it. Thing was leaking oil from the rear main seal. One of the first Pentastar 3.6s and Chrysler decided to give me whole new engine. They even sent engineers from Auburn Hills to help at the dealer. In my experience, nothing is bullet proof.


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Hey Derek, with all the negativity lately how about a couple good pics and your plans for beautification of the paint in the spring

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