Sealants vs Coatings

DaveT435 said:
In your situation I would definitely go with a coating. If you were closer I would help you out. IMO you should go over the paint with at least a finishing pad and a paint cleaner before coating.
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Thanks for the offer, I’ve been trying to get some help for months, now that school is out everyone is heading out for vacation with their kids. We are all ready breaking high temp records again and I need to do this after the sun sets because of the heat, that makes it harder to fit in someone’s schedule.

I’ll see if we can get some sort of a buff on it so the sealant can adhere better.

I’ve got the gtechniq exov3 along with the rupes p808 and the McKees hi def paint sealant to choose from.
I’ll do maintenance using the optimum no rinse wash and wax and the optimum spray on car wax.
I use the various Wolfgang products on my other car but this one is very hard to wash let alone buff out. The new paint on the top has no visible marring or water spots yet and I want to keep it that way.

David
 
Guz,

How would you compare CanCoat against Optimum Gloss Coat?
 
I asked Nick about McKees coating and new 10 min sealant his response. Myself the 10 min sealant worked great for me..

Sure...

Paint Coating is the better choice if you want to "set it and forget it" because the protection will last up to 3 years.

10 Minute Paint Sealant is like a "coating-lite." It's going to last up to 6 months, and it takes less time to apply.

If you LIKE to touch your car often, 10 Minute Paint Sealant is the obvious choice.

Put Paint Coating on the wife's car
 
Powerman said:
Thanks for the offer, I’ve been trying to get some help for months, now that school is out everyone is heading out for vacation with their kids. We are all ready breaking high temp records again and I need to do this after the sun sets because of the heat, that makes it harder to fit in someone’s schedule.

I’ll see if we can get some sort of a buff on it so the sealant can adhere better.

I’ve got the gtechniq exov3 along with the rupes p808 and the McKees hi def paint sealant to choose from.
I’ll do maintenance using the optimum no rinse wash and wax and the optimum spray on car wax.
I use the various Wolfgang products on my other car but this one is very hard to wash let alone buff out. The new paint on the top has no visible marring or water spots yet and I want to keep it that way.

David
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Exo is a coating so you already have that. You can check out this video on application.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1926462347644374

P808 is good and is so easy to reapply any time. Can be diluted down for a drying aid. Optimum Car Wax can also be used as a stand alone form of protection and just for maintenance.

You can pretty much take your pick out of anything you have.

gspam1 said:
Guz,

How would you compare CanCoat against Optimum Gloss Coat?
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I was disappointed with the durability of Gloss Coat. Optimum claims it is a 3 year coating with 2 years guaranteed. On two cars it had issues. One did not even make it to a year and the other made it to a year but was having issues that a decon wash could not fix. After my experience I am no longer using Gloss Coat. Overall it was not that good of a performer for me. The only good thing I have to say about it is the ease of use. The look is similar to that of a sealant. Definitely not worth the money for me. Richy also had issues with Gloss Coat.

CanCoat has exceeded all expectations for me. Currently approaching the 8 month mark and it's held up quite well. I used it in conjunction with Gyeon Primer Polish and on occasion have used Cure on it. CanCoat has better hydrophobic properties and a better self cleaning effect compared to Gloss Coat. It also looks better.
 
The Guz said:
Exo is a coating so you already have that. You can check out this video on application.

[video=facebook_share;1926462347644374]https://www.facebook.com/detailmentor/videos/1926462347644374/[/Optimum Car Wax can also be used as a stand alone form of protection and just for maintenance.
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Looks like I’ll try the EXO, I have the panel wipe to go with it. I’ll maintain it using the optimum car wax overtop.
After watching your video I’m wondering if one bottle of the EXO is going to be enough.

Now I have hope for cool weather or do it in the early morning before it hits 90. I’m afraid of instant set as we are hitting high 90’s this time of year.

David



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Hi is Gyeon Can Coat a standalone or repair product?
How does it compare with other coatings? What is the difference, compared to other coatings e.g. hardness etc.
Is it harder than clear coat?

Thanks
 
PeteT19640 said:
Hi is Gyeon Can Coat a standalone or repair product?
How does it compare with other coatings? What is the difference, compared to other coatings e.g. hardness etc.
Is it harder than clear coat?

Thanks
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CanCoat is a stand alone form of protection. Think of it as a coating lite. It can also be used as a coating topper.

CanCoat works very well. It is not going to last as long as a pure coating like Mohs or Pure in the Gteon line or other coatings similar such as cquartz, etc. But CanCoat is a nice place to begin if getting into coatings. Good self cleaning effect and very hydrophobic.

I would not worry about hardness as coatings are still susceptible to marring, swirling and scratching.

Try it out and I am sure you will be surprised at how well it performs.
 
Hi thanks for input/advise
Is Can Coat a ceramic coating?

My problem is power for polisher
I am looking for a product that I can use that could be maintained/removed by polishing by hand.
Anything else other than Can Coat?

Thanks
 
Powerman said:
Looks like I’ll try the EXO, I have the panel wipe to go with it. I’ll maintain it using the optimum car wax overtop.
After watching your video I’m wondering if one bottle of the EXO is going to be enough.

Now I have hope for cool weather or do it in the early morning before it hits 90. I’m afraid of instant set as we are hitting high 90’s this time of year.

David



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I was wondering if I can use Reload on top of EXO. I’ve been using it before I dry the van but I don’t know if it’s compatible.




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PeteT19640 said:
Hi thanks for input/advise
Is Can Coat a ceramic coating?

My problem is power for polisher
I am looking for a product that I can use that could be maintained/removed by polishing by hand.
Anything else other than Can Coat?

Thanks
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Yes. See my previous post.

You may be better off sticking with a sealant.

Powerman said:
I was wondering if I can use Reload on top of EXO. I’ve been using it before I dry the van but I don’t know if it’s compatible.




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Sure you can use it. Just be aware that you will notice the hydrophobic properties of Reload.
 
Thanks

I would like to try Can Coat, but can it be removed or maintained by hand and then recoated every 4-6 months. With better protection from coatings could be with a go as long as I can remove/maintain by hand.
Why do coatings need to be totally removed?

Thanks again
 
There can be alleged bonding issues if the previous coating isn’t removed. Will you notice maybe maybe not

By taking care of it by hand do you mean using a fine cut polish by hand before re applying can coat or what ?

Wash paint. Iron remover, Clay, Fine polish like Gyeon primer or Gyeon polish then you can use the Gyeon prep then apply can coat. 6 months down the road you could repeat the process. Just depends on what shape your paint is in. Lots of contamination then you gotta clay again at least and or iron remover before prep and can coat again

Some of these processes or over complicated on paper IMO. Can you just reapply can coat after washing it 6 months later sure you can. Will it effect much maybe a little depends how insanely thorough you want to be.



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MattPersman said:
There can be alleged bonding issues if the previous coating isn’t removed. Will you notice maybe maybe not

By taking care of it by hand do you mean using a fine cut polish by hand before re applying can coat or what ?

Wash paint. Iron remover, Clay, Fine polish like Gyeon primer or Gyeon polish then you can use the Gyeon prep then apply can coat. 6 months down the road you could repeat the process. Just depends on what shape your paint is in. Lots of contamination then you gotta clay again at least and or iron remover before prep and can coat again

Some of these processes or over complicated on paper IMO. Can you just reapply can coat after washing it 6 months later sure you can. Will it effect much maybe a little depends how insanely thorough you want to be.



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Hi yes you are correct "By taking care of it by hand do you mean using a fine cut polish by hand before re applying can coat"

Thanks
 
Powerman said:
Looks like I’ll try the EXO, I have the panel wipe to go with it. I’ll maintain it using the optimum car wax overtop.
After watching your video I’m wondering if one bottle of the EXO is going to be enough.

Now I have hope for cool weather or do it in the early morning before it hits 90. I’m afraid of instant set as we are hitting high 90’s this time of year.

David



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Now that I’m going to do the EXO coating on my van I have been looking deeper into their product line. The crystal serum light looks attractive.
Is there any benefite adding the crystal serum after the EXO or should I just wait a couple of years for the EXO wears off and the go with the crystal serum under the EXO as directed.




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Powerman said:
Now that I’m going to do the EXO coating on my van I have been looking deeper into their product line. The crystal serum light looks attractive.
Is there any benefite adding the crystal serum after the EXO or should I just wait a couple of years for the EXO wears off and the go with the crystal serum under the EXO as directed.




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Generally CSL is used as the base coat and then EXO on top to give it improved water behavior.

Haven't heard of anyone doing the reverse...
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Generally CSL is used as the base coat and then EXO on top to give it improved water behavior.

Haven't heard of anyone doing the reverse...
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Yeah I haven't heard of it used in reverse either


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