What did you do today, in regards to detailing?
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This will probably annoy many here, but a certain obsessed Youtuber has secured the distribution rights for Bilt Hamaber in the USA.
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Ahhhhh, never really got into that channel much but thanks for the heads up Deyon. I'm still thankful I got in on the clearance sale from the previous sole distributor here in the U.S. I may not have a covered place to park my EN but if I did they sure helped my keep a clean garage
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Ahhhhh, never really got into that channel much but thanks for the heads up Deyon. I'm still thankful I got in on the clearance sale from the previous sole distributor here in the U.S. I may not have a covered place to park my EN but if I did they sure helped my keep a clean garage
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So there is some backstory going on between OG and CG.
OG brought Pressol to the US market, investing to be the US distributor for the brand. CG were getting around this by buying Pressol from YumCars in the UK. That is until OG and Pressol shut him down. Apparently, OG were kindly asking them to stop this, but ended up having to take it to the next level. And rightly so.
Now OG have gone and snapped up Bilt Hamber from under CG's feet.
So there is some rivalry and bad blood between the two of them.
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I really don't know anything about this guy. But he doesn't seem to have a very good reputation. So can somebody tell me what the issue is?
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After the snow from a couple days ago and too cold to wash responsibly yesterday, TODAY was the day to get after it
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I took my IK Foam Pro 12 to work with me and brought it inside to ensure to line freezing. I had 1 oz of DIY Detail Incredible Suds and 1 oz of Nv Snow+ "for a little extra kick"
I got home and grabbed the Bilt-Hamber QD mixed at 3:1 ratio to help dry where there was still water, the tires & wheels and the area on the back of the p/s front seat where my daughters feet always find their way
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️I took my IK Foam Pro 12 to work with me and brought it inside to ensure to line freezing. I had 1 oz of DIY Detail Incredible Suds and 1 oz of Nv Snow+ "for a little extra kick"
I got home and grabbed the Bilt-Hamber QD mixed at 3:1 ratio to help dry where there was still water, the tires & wheels and the area on the back of the p/s front seat where my daughters feet always find their way
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Looking good, Klasse! I still can't figure out what your wash was, are you saying you took the car inside at work, or just your foamer? You sprayed the car down with your foamer, rinsed, drove home and dried with the QD? Whatever you did, the car looks great.
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My dealer just delivered the last bottle of Auto Foam in the country. I think I’m about to try out this capitalism thing and put it on EBay with an insane markup and start my detailing empire.
On another note, I did meet a rather nice gentleman that recently had knee surgery. He likes to give his car a good polish once a year to get rid of the tunnel wash swirls so it looks like I’ll be breaking out the G15 pretty soon. It’s refreshing to meet a customer that likes quality and doesn’t mind paying a fair price for it. Usually, in my area, when I quote a price above $50 people want to know if that includes headlight restoration, a deep interior cleaning, 4 wheel alignment, laundry service and weekly meal prep.
On another note, I did meet a rather nice gentleman that recently had knee surgery. He likes to give his car a good polish once a year to get rid of the tunnel wash swirls so it looks like I’ll be breaking out the G15 pretty soon. It’s refreshing to meet a customer that likes quality and doesn’t mind paying a fair price for it. Usually, in my area, when I quote a price above $50 people want to know if that includes headlight restoration, a deep interior cleaning, 4 wheel alignment, laundry service and weekly meal prep.
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He’s arrogant… I’m ok with that but caters to people who have “expendable income”.
He’ll sell products (like his pressol and basically his customers are Guinea Pigs. That’s Ok as people buy knowing this.
My issue with him is ApexAire offered to replace the less than acceptable Ego stubby.
I’m not one to take something back if I mistook how it was use, didn’t need it or found it cheaper. Not a Costco return policy abuser.
My Apex Aire with all the original purchasers was loose fitting. When I heard they offered to replace I wasn’t going to swap because honestly it worked fine, didn’t rattle and never came off. It was just loose fitting.
The reason I chose this is the manufacturer planned on making different attachments and there’s a few I think could be useful (narrow tip).
With fixes new tips and accessories wouldn’t fit so I took them up on it
He’s wasn’t really a retailer at first just a guy who sold products he liked “OG spec’d”. But now he’s grown and still treats customers the same.
Nothing wrong with that if his consumers are OK but he is not the epitome of “customer centric”
I don’t prefer him and will buy BH if necessary but with free shipping I think Carzilla out of Canada may be cheaper..
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On a side, Carzilla, Chris and the gang, are amazing. If looking for BH, they just had their BF sale there. They will have another around Christmas and New Years. Then the next will be next years BF. So if your looking to grab BH....
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With Pressol, he is the official US-market distributor for the brand. From what I can gather, CG were undercutting OG by on-selling product sourced from the UK.
As you say, he invested and built the Pressol brand, bringing it to the detailing arena. Previously, Pressol products were not necessarily aimed at the detailing market, which could explain the failures with earlier versions. As mentioned, customers were basically beta-testing them with no warranty. They are now just about the release chemical resistant stainless steel sprayer tips to solve a number of issues that arose early on.
I will say though, having used Pressol sprayers for a while now, I have only had one failure, which was from Brake Buster after 12+ months use. Brake Buster is a sprayer killer anyway, I would get 4 - 6 months from a Tolco, but even then it was still spraying, just not double action.
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Very interesting question, because from a basic standpoint, both are dual action sprayers sold at a premium price. I started with Kwazar's, then added Pressols much later on.
Kwazar -
The bottles themselves are made from sturdier plastic, with a very well-designed base that promotes better stability when set down. I also like the color coding, allowing you to categorize them to different tasks. For interior products I use the green, dressings in red, and so on. The sprayer head is much better quality, especially the tips. You also get much wider adjustability, from pinpoint to fine atomization. The Kawzar's also have a much better pickup tube, a softer rubber type material and a brass weighted filter to ensure 360-degree spraying. The Mercury 360's are also about half the price of the Pressol's in Australia, which is surprising considering the superior quality.
Earlier examples had of the Kwazar's had a different head that was apparently uncomfortable to hold, but the newer ones smoothed that out. The only drawback I can say is that the larger 1000ml versions are too big, bulky and heavy when full. The only failures I have had have been limited to Shine Supply Wise Guy destroyed the sprayer, KCx Guff takes about 25 pumps to get it flowing, and I knocked one off the sink and snapped the head. Otherwise, they have been very impressive over the last 4 or 5 years.
Pressol -
I'm not going to lie, but the things I like most about these are not entirely functional. I like how they look, there, I said it! :laughing: Especially with the OG labels. I also like the click-click sound they make. On the practical front, the clear bottles allow you to see the contents of the bottles much easier than the Kawzars. In 500ml form, they are nicely shaped to hang from your pocket as you work.
But...............the spray head is made from cheaper plastic, the pickup tube on the "industrial" head is pathetically thin and kink prone with a non-weighted filter, the "household" spray heads have no filter or flexible tube, in both cases mean no 360-degree spraying. Failures, I have only killed one industrial spray head with Brake Buster. Some also blow through tips, but I am almost certain that is from people screwing around with the tip, I just pick a setting and leave it alone.
Overall, if you were to pick one, I would say Kwazar is where your money should go. If you are a hobbyist, stick with the 500ml versions, if you are a pro, then go for the 1000ml for extra efficiency.
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Yeah, I took the IK Foam Pro 12 inside so it would not get cold.
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So you foamed the car with your custom mixture, then you hosed it off? At work? Coin-op on the way home? Or you have a hose at home?
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This last wash:
-pre-foam car
-drive into touch-free wash
-drive home & spot dry
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Got it. Sorry if I've been a little dense on this. There are no touch-free washes around me. I usually tough it out without a wash during the winter, or if I get a warm day I'll do a rinseless, or if I get where I can't stand it I may try one in the garage. We've been lucky here the last couple of years without too much snow, and/or I've been able to avoid driving in it.