Cruzscarwash
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I use it on Windows and it does great but I did end up redoing my SUV in fk1000p as well as it's still my favorite sealant
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Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax
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Not tried HCW but some other spray on rinse off products. And they holds up remarkeble well on windows. The windshield gets to much of the road salt grime splatter on them. So the need of washer fluid and wipers is a little too much. But for being the windshield it's good though. One product on a Nissan Navara truck back window was not far from being to work as newly applyied after 6 months. I was very impressed with that. But it's a place that is not so much wear on but still see it bead and sheeting that fast was interesting to see.
Will see what the price gets to be here in Sweden on HCW. If we even is getting it LOL.
just tried it for the first time, Amazon had it pretty cheap, and I have to say that I don't think it'll be my goto product. Once you put it on, it snags my microfiber and requires a more vigorous buffoff than I want to do. I think I'll go back to my McKees 37 10 minute paint sealant, or the blackfire SIO2 spray, they are both true WOWA.....
Getting lazy in my old age....
Getting lazy in my old age....
Klasse Act
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Use it for your rims
That is my plan to use up my bottle. Wasn't real impressed with it.
If you have already LSP you don't need to be wipe anything with these kind of spray on rinse off products. And a more easy way to be only spraying it on the panel and blast it off with a PW. This is what it was intended to be used as. Then it has came off label application to stretch the product you use or a more even application. But these spray on rinse off products is also mostly as maintance product so you can use quite often. My experience with these kind of products is that they also build up great after say by every other week. And the performance from them comes often about 3-4 applications to be even more effective than they get from 1 application. HCW is a little od in that it's very thick and has problems to break through a flat wet panel. This is not the case with other products in this category. I think that it's cause of the user friendly on an already LSP surfaces. Other products bond really fast and is needed to be rinsed off very fast too. I have seen some Youtube videos where they let it dwell on the panel for a quite long time. Doing this with say Gyeon Wet Coat you would be in trouble LOL.
Hope you not take it as a jump on you. It's more generally speaking of these products. And to save product it's used as it was not intended to be used as. Also a little warning as other products used as HCW off label use can get you in a lot of trouble with high spots that is not as easy to take of like HCW seems to be. If it comes to Sweden and is reasonable priced here like other products in this category. I will be testing this out too. I have a physically disability that makes me apply LSP very easy and with very great results. The ease of use is a big benefit with these spray on rinse off products but also sometimes it feels like waisting a lot of product when used as should be.
/ Tony
I use CarPro products mostly and wonder how well this would finish on CQuartz 3.0? It's much cheaper than CP's Hydr02 and Hydr02 Lite. Another quick question relating to Meg's products......Does anyone have experience with using CarPro Reload or Ech20 with Meg's ULW or any of their waxes? Thanks
392hemi
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I personally would like UK do its thing and perhaps mix Reload and Ech2o, use that.
Why mask the abilities of your coating with a lesser product? Otherwise instead of the coating use HCW every 3 to 6 months.
checanet
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Les voy a comentar MI experiencia, con HCW. Voy a escribir en ESPAÑOL.
El metodo de utilizacion del producto no me convence.
1) Se desperdicia mucho producto
2) Puede dejar Streaks si se dispara demas
3) Puede llegar a ser costozo retirar el residuo
4) Deja de ser practico
Hay que tener en cuenta que cuando el fabricante oficialmente dice que se sprayee sobre la superficie mojada, esta diluyendo "de hecho " al producto "on the fly" en ese momento. Se nota un producto MUY ESPESO, y que necesita dilucion. Dependera si existe o no proteccion previa. y posiblemente el producto quede en la microfibra si no se esparce bien... por todo ello decidi CAMBIAR EL METODO DE APLICACION..
Mi Metodologia Fue la siguiente:
1) Dilui el Producto 7:1 con agua destilada (RECUERDE AGITAR MUCHO ANTES DE DILUIR)
2) Aplique como un booster (al estilo Bead Maker o D156, etc,etc) sobre una toalla o capot, sobre la superficie SECA del auto.
El RESULTADO ES SIMPLEMENTE ESPECTACULAR. Ademas una botella de 28oz rendiria 208oz. Vi una review con 8:1, pero me anime a diluir un poco menos.
El producto es facil de pasar y retirar. Recuerden que hay que MEZCLAR muy bien antes de la dilucion del producto.
Saludos desde Argentina.
Saludos desde Argentina.
El metodo de utilizacion del producto no me convence.
1) Se desperdicia mucho producto
2) Puede dejar Streaks si se dispara demas
3) Puede llegar a ser costozo retirar el residuo
4) Deja de ser practico
Hay que tener en cuenta que cuando el fabricante oficialmente dice que se sprayee sobre la superficie mojada, esta diluyendo "de hecho " al producto "on the fly" en ese momento. Se nota un producto MUY ESPESO, y que necesita dilucion. Dependera si existe o no proteccion previa. y posiblemente el producto quede en la microfibra si no se esparce bien... por todo ello decidi CAMBIAR EL METODO DE APLICACION..
Mi Metodologia Fue la siguiente:
1) Dilui el Producto 7:1 con agua destilada (RECUERDE AGITAR MUCHO ANTES DE DILUIR)
2) Aplique como un booster (al estilo Bead Maker o D156, etc,etc) sobre una toalla o capot, sobre la superficie SECA del auto.
El RESULTADO ES SIMPLEMENTE ESPECTACULAR. Ademas una botella de 28oz rendiria 208oz. Vi una review con 8:1, pero me anime a diluir un poco menos.
El producto es facil de pasar y retirar. Recuerden que hay que MEZCLAR muy bien antes de la dilucion del producto.
Saludos desde Argentina.
Saludos desde Argentina.
Misterpaul
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Checanet: Welcome to Autogeek!
Google translation of above post.
I am going to tell you about MY experience, with HCW. I'm going to write in Spanish.
The method of using the product does not convince me.
1) A lot of product is wasted
2) You can leave Streaks if you shoot others
3) It can become costly to remove the waste
4) Stop being practical
Keep in mind that when the manufacturer officially says that sprayee on the wet surface, is diluting "in fact" to the product "on the fly" at that time. It shows a VERY THICK, and that needs dilution. It will depend on whether or not there is prior protection. and possibly the product remains in the microfiber if it does not spread well ... for all this I decided to CHANGE THE APPLICATION METHOD ..
My Methodology It was the following:
1) Dilute the 7: 1 Product with distilled water (REMEMBER TO SHAKE BEFORE DILUATING)
2) Apply as a booster (Bead Maker or D156, etc, etc) on a towel or bonnet, on the DRY surface of the car.
The RESULT IS SIMPLY SPECTACULAR. Also a 28oz bottle would yield 208oz. I saw a review with 8: 1, but I encouraged to dilute a little less.
The product is easy to pass and remove. Remember that you have to MIX very well before the dilution of the product.
Greetings from Argentina.
Google translation of above post.
I am going to tell you about MY experience, with HCW. I'm going to write in Spanish.
The method of using the product does not convince me.
1) A lot of product is wasted
2) You can leave Streaks if you shoot others
3) It can become costly to remove the waste
4) Stop being practical
Keep in mind that when the manufacturer officially says that sprayee on the wet surface, is diluting "in fact" to the product "on the fly" at that time. It shows a VERY THICK, and that needs dilution. It will depend on whether or not there is prior protection. and possibly the product remains in the microfiber if it does not spread well ... for all this I decided to CHANGE THE APPLICATION METHOD ..
My Methodology It was the following:
1) Dilute the 7: 1 Product with distilled water (REMEMBER TO SHAKE BEFORE DILUATING)
2) Apply as a booster (Bead Maker or D156, etc, etc) on a towel or bonnet, on the DRY surface of the car.
The RESULT IS SIMPLY SPECTACULAR. Also a 28oz bottle would yield 208oz. I saw a review with 8: 1, but I encouraged to dilute a little less.
The product is easy to pass and remove. Remember that you have to MIX very well before the dilution of the product.
Greetings from Argentina.
Calendyr
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That is a great idea. Might just buy some to try it.
As for application. Meguiar's people say people at applying it way too thick. You just need a little bit of the product. So one or 2 spray into an applicator to do a whole panel.
I would never use the wet application method, that is just crazy.
Klasse Act
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Wet application is absurd, as are the leaking sprayers are as well!
This 7:1 ratio is something I'm going to try for sure, then use it as spray on, rinse off product, am I understanding this correctly
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This 7:1 ratio is something I'm going to try for sure, then use it as spray on, rinse off product, am I understanding this correctly
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Finick
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Wet application is absurd, as are the leaking sprayers are as well!
This 7:1 ratio is something I'm going to try for sure, then use it as spray on, rinse off product, am I understanding this correctly
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I’d think an initial non diluted application with a damp microfiber, followed by a diluted spray to use as a drying aid would make sense. Whether that be 1:1, 2:1, 7:1, or what have you. The product is certainly thick, but I think even at a lot lower or a dilution it would be a lot more manageable as a drying aid dilution.
On the other hand:
The video OG put up where they talked about this product was really interesting to me. The meguiars rep basically said he uses it as a drying aid exclusively, and that he’d recommend just using it as a drying aid every couple of months for optimum protection/repellency.
Considering how little product it takes to use in that way, it may not even be worth the hassle of diluting it to begin with.
I think HCW is an interesting product. If the base layer is applied, it works well as a spray and rinse. It can be used as a drying aid, and apparently diluted and still provide good results.
It might not be as straightforward as the other spray and rinse products, but I appreciate the choices you have with it.
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limited0602
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My order arrived Saturday and it was so excited to be used it couldn't contain itself... I'll be requesting another bottle tomorrow.
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Diluting the hcw helps spread it more evenly and minimizes the streaks.
Thanks for posting Checanet. It confirms my experience as well. I diluted 1:4 and it really made hcw easier to apply. I too did it on a dry car. That's easier for me and also avoids wasted product imho.
I will be reapplying hcw to my uncovered car, monthly or biweekly, anyway. Might as well try 1:8 or 1:7 dilution.
Thanks for posting Checanet. It confirms my experience as well. I diluted 1:4 and it really made hcw easier to apply. I too did it on a dry car. That's easier for me and also avoids wasted product imho.
I will be reapplying hcw to my uncovered car, monthly or biweekly, anyway. Might as well try 1:8 or 1:7 dilution.
Forensic Detailing Channel on Youtube have done a match up with HCW and Carpro Reload and Gyeon Cure and Britemax Remax and Tac System Quartz Max. Spoiler alert LOL. HCW did very well in this test and also Britemax Remax SiO2 Spray Sealant which AGO has seems to be a sleeper in this category. The durability test was really impresive from these 2 also. But mostly I was impressed by HCW. Will see know when HCW has reached Sweden if I'm going with it. The problem is the prices here where HCW is around $32. I do like Gyeon Wet Coat and also with a stronger 2019 version and $26 for the 1L also is a quite difference in the value of the product. But Forensic Detailing Channel on Youtube did wipe out the last concern about HCW is a great product. He also has some tips and trix for application of HCW. Mainly if when you spray it on the panel you hold it farther away and try to distribute the product by moveing the bottle while you spray. So you don't get a big blobb on the same spot. Also spread it out with a mf applicator sponge is saving product. This I do with Wet Coat and Hydro2 lite too and I think that I get a more even coverage and also a better durability IME.
Edit: Link to the test
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Edit: Link to the test
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Klasse Act
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I've never used Reload but I've used TAC System Quartz Max and WetCoat, top notch. Quartz Max is used like a QD whereas WetCoat is a one and done, depends on what your looking for exactly.
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I got both the Reload and Quartz Max in the 100ml sample bottles. My thought is to use it mixed with like Merlin's Elixir. And see which one I think that works in this mixture. Wet Coat I have used 2L so far. But have looked at others and tested Carpro Hydro2 lite and Sonax Spray and Seal. On my silver metallic car the Wet Coat gets a little too sharp of crispy looks. But on the white Ford Focus I maintain it looks awesome on. The spray on rinse off products is when I have a higher level of pain from the nerve damage I have in the neck and lower back. They are so easy to apply so they helps me a lot to refreshing the LSP. Still waiting out the weather and the dirty roads to clean up a bit more. And pollen this year after 2 years of dry weather has gone bananas. They say that plants and trees has been loading up and now release this very high amount of pollen. Even if you don't have any allergies you is effected by it. Most cars has this yellow hue going on LOL. Will be testing both reload and Quartz Max as a QD/topper on some panels just for fun and see how they are.
checanet
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