New mid engine Corvette. July 18th.

DETAILROOKIE said:
Vettes need V8s!

Wouldn't be an American Muscle Car without a V8!

'MERICA!

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Agreed.

I wouldn't feel right driving it otherwise.

Same goes for my Ram.

Hey Ford........ Any $85,000 Raptor want to have a little taste of my Regular Cab Hemi Ram? Lol
 
DETAILROOKIE said:
Vettes need V8s!

Wouldn't be an American Muscle Car without a V8!

'MERICA!

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Soooooooo, what's your thoughts on the 1986-87 GN's

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Klasse Act said:
Soooooooo, what's your thoughts on the 1986-87 GN's

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The 80s were a horrible time for muscle cars, government restrictions with the Clean Air Act and oil prices through the roof. GM tried the V6 T , it kicked ass, and they killed it. It was short lived, but imagine if it would have had a nice V8 in it, and not a turbo V8 like the darn Trans am, what a pile! My Aunt's Geo metro is faster than my Trans Am.

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DETAILROOKIE said:
The 80s were a horrible time for muscle cars, government restrictions with the Clean Air Act and oil prices through the roof. GM tried the V6 T , it kicked ass, and they killed it. It was short lived, but imagine if it would have had a nice V8 in it, and not a turbo V8 like the darn Trans am, what a pile! My Aunt's Geo metro is faster than my Trans Am.

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Oh...your talking about the 1980-81 TTA, but by the end of the 1980's the TTA pace car was the 1st pace car that required NO mods to pace the great race. As far as a nice V8 Instead of the turbo V6, yeah, I'm sure embarrassed Corvette owners agree with you too, LOL.

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Klasse Act said:
Soooooooo, what's your thoughts on the 1986-87 GN's

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Love the GRand NAtional. Shoulda had a turbo V8 tho. It’s wierd when I had Japanese/ European cars love the sound of a SC v6. I would be wielded out tho comin from a vette.


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Coatingsarecrack said:
Love the GRand NAtional. Shoulda had a turbo V8 tho. It’s wierd when I had Japanese/ European cars love the sound of a SC v6. I would be wielded out tho comin from a vette.


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Buick was heavy into turbocharging their 231 V6, no need for the V8 honestly, the numbers prove it out.

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DETAILROOKIE said:
The 80s were a horrible time for muscle cars, government restrictions with the Clean Air Act and oil prices through the roof. GM tried the V6 T , it kicked ass, and they killed it. It was short lived, but imagine if it would have had a nice V8 in it, and not a turbo V8 like the darn Trans am, what a pile! My Aunt's Geo metro is faster than my Trans Am.

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Seems the 80's was a dog decade for everything with 4 tires on it!

I had bought so many vehicles during the 80's, 2 Trans Ams, 84 and 86, a 80 Jeep Cherokee, and an 84 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4. One TA (86), and the Jeep were real dogs. And the 1 ton got about 6mpg on the street, and 9 on the highway with those 4.56 axles, I kid you not.

That was one decade that had I not bought any vehicles and banked that money, I could've probably bought a house today with the funds. Tossed a ton of money to the wind.

When I bought the 68 SS396 Camaro in '86, I actually had less trouble with it, than all the showroom fresh vehicles I mention above.

Hindsight always has 20/20 vision.
 
One of the most important thoughts I've had about the aspects of the new Stingray, but failed to mention is "safety"?

Will this mid engine vehicle be any more dangerous in a collision to its occupants with an engine sitting behind you, versus previous older designs?

I might assume one is losing a lot of protective steel up front besides the obvious, a heavy motor behind.

Then again, many race cars with the same configuration seem to protect their drivers very well with high speed collisions.
 
I remember when they released the pics of the 19 sliverados. I hated the headlights. I loved the look of my 16 z71 grill so much that it killed me that they would mess with it. And then it just sort of grew on me and now as an owner of a 19 I dont even see why I disliked it so much.

this too will probably happen with the rear of the vette.
 
MarkD51 said:
One of the most important thoughts I've had about the aspects of the new Stingray, but failed to mention is "safety"?

Will this mid engine vehicle be any more dangerous in a collision to its occupants with an engine sitting behind you, versus previous older designs?

I might assume one is losing a lot of protective steel up front besides the obvious, a heavy motor behind.

Then again, many race cars with the same configuration seem to protect their drivers very well with high speed collisions.
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I think you answered your own question. There have been mid-engine cars racing in the endurance series for years now. Everything from prototypes at the top class to mid-engined Ferrari's, Lambo's, the new NSX, McLaren 720 and 575, Audi R8 and Ford GT. To take it a step further, 911's have been racing safely for decades with their engines even father back. While the prototype cars aren't a good analogy, the GT3 and GT4 cars are since they start with the same basic frame as the production car (i.e. body in white) before being shipped off to be turned into a race car.

The driver compartment are usually VERY sturdy carbon fiber and metal tubs which can withstand amazing amounts of force and not deform to endanger the driver. Everthing attached to that tub/frame may sheer off to distribute the force, but the passengers stay safe.

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This was a lot of mid engine fun back in day. I had a 1987. 88 they got it all right, then killed it off.
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I really like the last generation of the Fiero. Never had the priveledge to drive one, but loved the looks.

At my local SCCA chapter, there is a guy who autocrosses a highly modified first generation Fiero. I think it is the only operational one I've seen in years.
 
regardless of anecdotal racing examples, it'll need to pass DOT standards, and chevy would not have put it out there on display if it couldn't. Now I imagine it wont rate as high as a minivan, but it will also get a rating that buyers can use when deciding on their next purchase and I wouldn't be surprised if it's a lot higher than we all expect.
 
At this point, my guess is it has already been tested and certified by the federal government. The IIHS will probably have to wait until production models are available for them to purchase and then crash.
 
MarkD51 said:
One of the most important thoughts I've had about the aspects of the new Stingray, but failed to mention is "safety"?

Will this mid engine vehicle be any more dangerous in a collision to its occupants with an engine sitting behind you, versus previous older designs?

I might assume one is losing a lot of protective steel up front besides the obvious, a heavy motor behind.

Then again, many race cars with the same configuration seem to protect their drivers very well with high speed collisions.
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Here are a few photos of the 2020 ME
Corvette’s structural underpinnings.
Pretty Beefy!

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Bob
 
Just saw a C8 on the road. Was riding next to it for about 5 miles or so down 696 in Michigan. It was blue and it definitely has presence. The controversial and somewhat ugly rear end does look better in person I will admit.

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I know the manual is going away in these perf cars but it would've been nice for the "real" driving fans out there to offer this in that C8, try and NOT be like the competition:idea:

I was talking to Derek0609 this afternoon about the C8 and I just can't get into this car, I really wish I could point to "something" about it but IMO this was 60 years in the making and I just don't get it. I mean Lamborghini had what, 2-3 years to introduce the Miura after its debut of their first car, lucky swing....nah, then the Countach came out 5-6 years later and the original one of those was insane, then shoeboxes and picnic tables were added to it then it became a poster child, weird.
 
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