Willbean, I’m sorry for the confusion. I use dedicated cleaner such as WG Leather Cleaner, then I use one of the 3 protections (WG, PBL or Mckees coating), or 1 of the 2 conditioners topped with the coating. I have 3 cars so I swap around which gets what of the 3 protection choices.....
I first tried conditioner + coating last year on my X5, using WG Conditioner followed by a Mckees Coating. I wanted to moisturize prior to coating and figured I would observe if I thought the coating failed. My observation is that the coating lasted just fine over the dedicated conditioner, best I can tell. So I will probably use a two step process for expensive leather in the future: one of the conditioners followed by coating since it seems like it works.
I don’t see any purpose in combining WG conditioner with PBL Balm. And I like the Balm better too which is why I haven’t topped with the coating.