Product Review: Wolfgang Si02 Paint Sealant

briarpatch said:
I feel the same way.....although that new Dr Beasleys Coating looks interesting too
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there's more of us than you think. coatings are new so they get a lot of attention. But I bet if you really had an accurate poll of hobbyists it'd still be heavy on sealants. And of course turtlewax still probably sells more than anyone at autozone haha.
 
Belo said:
there's more of us than you think. coatings are new so they get a lot of attention. But I bet if you really had an accurate poll of hobbyists it'd still be heavy on sealants. And of course turtlewax still probably sells more than anyone at autozone haha.
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I expect you may be correct. After having used the WG SIO2 sealant, I'm pretty impressed by its ease of use and results. If it holds up like I expect it to, it will be a fixture on my shelf until something better comes along.
 
Yaemish said:
I'm confused. Do you use this instead of their Uber Ceramic?
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Welcome to AGO! I assume you are responding to Briarpatch post 22 above. He’s using the WG SiO2 Paint Sealant, like the title of the thread. It is like a traditional liquid sealant but with SiO2 included in the formula.

Wolfgang SiO2 Paint Sealant

WG Uber Ceramic Spray Sealant is also new, came out around the same time, and is a spray on product.

Wolfgang ber Ceramic Spray Coating
 
Thank you for the welcome.

My cheap Harbor Freight rotary finally died and I bought myself a nice Mikita. I figure, why not look into some new products and bam! Overwhelmed with the options.

I ordered some Wolfgang up, I think I've used some of their stuff years past. I'm not sure that I'm sold on the coatings yet. But I am hoping this stuff is better than the Collinite 845 that has been my go-to for a few years. It has some pretty undesirable drawbacks, so I welcome something new. Think it can offer similar protection?
 
Yaemish said:
I ordered some Wolfgang up, I think I've used some of their stuff years past. I'm not sure that I'm sold on the coatings yet. But I am hoping this stuff is better than the Collinite 845 that has been my go-to for a few years. It has some pretty undesirable drawbacks, so I welcome something new. Think it can offer similar protection?
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What are your drawbacks with 845? WG SiO2 seems to provide good protection but it’s a short sample time and smaller sample size (partial panels) for me so far. So it’s hard to say, but it has nice water behavior, no etching so far, and doesn’t hold on to dirt.
 
acuRAS82 said:
What are your drawbacks with 845? WG SiO2 seems to provide good protection but it’s a short sample time and smaller sample size (partial panels) for me so far. So it’s hard to say, but it has nice water behavior, no etching so far, and doesn’t hold on to dirt.
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I've only ever stumbled upon a few people that had this same problem. All my cars are dark, that may be part of it. I've done a lot of experiments and learned that it has to be applied very thin like most other products. However, if you go thick you'll think that you are OK, and bump into the problem a week down the road.

Basically, it can show witness lines. Almost like it sweats them. Like I said, if you go thick, they will start showing up a week down the road. Also, if memory serves... if you have anything under it (even a coat of the 845 that was applied a week+ prior, it will show these lines. The only way that I put it down is after my final pass with the rotary. If I don't polish before applying, you'll eventually run into issues where you see witness lines rising up.

Obviously, I don't want to always do a light polish before freshening up. It does protect well and it does hold up for a while though. I'm tempted to try a coating but I am suspicious and think that there may be a little too much marketing with all of them.
 
Yaemish said:
I've only ever stumbled upon a few people that had this same problem. All my cars are dark, that may be part of it. I've done a lot of experiments and learned that it has to be applied very thin like most other products. However, if you go thick you'll think that you are OK, and bump into the problem a week down the road.

Basically, it can show witness lines. Almost like it sweats them. Like I said, if you go thick, they will start showing up a week down the road. Also, if memory serves... if you have anything under it (even a coat of the 845 that was applied a week+ prior, it will show these lines. The only way that I put it down is after my final pass with the rotary. If I don't polish before applying, you'll eventually run into issues where you see witness lines rising up.

Obviously, I don't want to always do a light polish before freshening up. It does protect well and it does hold up for a while though. I'm tempted to try a coating but I am suspicious and think that there may be a little too much marketing with all of them.
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I have heard of that issue with 845....on some cases, even when applied thin. I've even heard of people warming it up to thin it out so they could spray it on.
 
I've noted that with the older formula Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant you can apply a wax over it, such as Fusion Estate Wax, etc. However, there is no such mention with the Si02 Sealant. Can you add a carnauba wax on top, or is it not advisable?
 
KenR said:
I've noted that with the older formula Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant you can apply a wax over it, such as Fusion Estate Wax, etc. However, there is no such mention with the Si02 Sealant. Can you add a carnauba wax on top, or is it not advisable?
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You can, it should work fine, but it’s likely not recommended because it will mask the ceramic traits of the sealant. But if you want the carnauba for looks, it’ll lay on top just fine I think.
 
I played with the 845 some more last weekend and yesterday. I tried to give it a week, wash, then I added another 845. It went on, but there is some sweating. Nothing too bad, but it could continue to sweat into the week and that wouldn't be desirable. My Wolfgang will arrive tomorrow and I'm going to polish one of the other cars and throw it on. I'll keep track of how long it stay slick in comparison. I haven't seen anyone comparing any of the new stuff to the 845.

Once I get to the point that the Si02 needs a spray topper, does Wofgang make anything that is supposed to go over it?
 
Yaemish said:
I played with the 845 some more last weekend and yesterday. I tried to give it a week, wash, then I added another 845. It went on, but there is some sweating. Nothing too bad, but it could continue to sweat into the week and that wouldn't be desirable. My Wolfgang will arrive tomorrow and I'm going to polish one of the other cars and throw it on. I'll keep track of how long it stay slick in comparison. I haven't seen anyone comparing any of the new stuff to the 845.

Once I get to the point that the Si02 needs a spray topper, does Wofgang make anything that is supposed to go over it?
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I have a running comparison test here:
https://www.autogeekonline.net/foru...ants-test.html?highlight=Traditional+sealants

The *seemingly* best topper from WG would be Wolfgang SiO2 Spray Sealant:
Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Silica Spray
 
It would be alright to use a different SiO2 topper? By the way, excellent comparison thread.
 
Yaemish said:
It would be alright to use a different SiO2 topper? By the way, excellent comparison thread.
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Thanks. And yes, you should have success with just about any spray topper that doesn’t call out needing a bare, prepped surface.
 
I put some down last night and I am blown away. It has a great look and it is very slick now. I was going to buy some of the CarPro cquartz; I think I'm going to wait a bit.
 
Yaemish said:
I put some down last night and I am blown away. It has a great look and it is very slick now. I was going to buy some of the CarPro cquartz; I think I'm going to wait a bit.
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I too was blown away with its performance. From its ease of use and wipe-off to look of the finish is incredible.
 
Guys I’m curious if this product can be layered? If so, how long do I need to wait between coats? Thanks!
 
Deep18 said:
Guys I’m curious if this product can be layered? If so, how long do I need to wait between coats? Thanks!
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I’m sure it can layer, it’s a finishing sealant. I just can’t guarantee any positive results after two coats. Wait 24 hours inbetween if possible.
 
I have used 3.0 for years. I'm thinking of trying this newer version out. I detail after weekly washed with Deep Gloss Spray sealant. can i still do that with the new SiO2 sealant vs the 3.0?

Also I read above about applying fusion over it. I do that with 3.0 now for years. What will I gain or loose by doing this on top of SiO2?

Finally my other thread mentions some questions about prep. I see OP used the spray prep. I usually use Wolfgang polish before I use 3.0. Once in a while I use swirl remover. Would I still use the spray prep after the polish when I'm correcting my paint before seal or does the polish take care of the prep spray. I'm not usderstanding the roll fo the prep spray when most would polish to remove old wax first anyway. I might be totally wrong here.

Thanks,
jim
 
How does this Wolfgang Si02 spray sealant compare with Blackfire Si02 spray sealant?

Or is it just the same product?
 
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