Carpro Essense Plus

You’re fine to reuse. Super low amount of SiO2 in that product. I’m not sure I’d buy that product again after trying to use it a couple of times and basically wasting my time.
 
Just for my knowledge...can you please provide more info on your experience?

Did you polished the paint before use it?
Did you used any maintenance topper?
Did you applied 1 or 2 coats?
How long it last?
How was the gloss and hydrophobic?


thanks

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Essence plus is made to attempt small repairs on a car that already has a coating.

I tried it on two different cars, one coated with CQ UK and another with Gyeon Syncro. Both times to attempt removal of water spots that Spotless didn’t touch.

Essence Plus also didn’t remove the water spots. But you can clearly see it left its protection behind because the panel polished with it now shows much inferior hydrophobic behavior than the rest of the car. It’s like Essence plus is masking the coating. And it lasts a long time on there, or maybe it just causes permanent damage to the coating? Both times I used a finishing pad, with no cut. I did not want the coating removed.

I did apply a few times to the same area because all I wanted was the water spots removed but I made no difference at all.

Essence Extreme Gloss (the non Plus version) is another story. That one is awesome and I love using it.
 
I was considering put it on bare clear coat and top it with Reload or Elixir on my wifes car.

I kinda like the idea of a SiO2 liquud sealant but there is none out there that really convince me.
1)Adams Ceramic Liquid Wax - no good durability and no good gloss either
2)Ethos Ceramic Wax Pro - its really not that hydrophobic
3)Meguiars M27 Ceramic Sealant - no much info on durability, but apparently isnt much
4)CG Hydroslick - nightmare to work with
5)Wolfgang SiO2 paint sealant - cant find any real review

I thought the answer was Essence +

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To answer your frist question this does not require one to toss their towels. This does not have that high concentration of SiO2.

As mentioned this was designed as a coating repair non-abrasive polish. It is essentially filling in those minor and I mean minor defects. It does leave a nice gloss but lacks in hydrophobic's and self cleaning compared to an actual coating.

You will get about 3 months out of Essence Plus used as a stand alone.

This is from CarPro. They claim close to a year but cut that in half based on my experience with Essence Plus. You can top it to your hearts content.

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Hydrophobics and self cleaning are an important factor...

So back to the drawing board.

This category of LSP there is no product that stands out

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If I were you I’d use Gyeon CanCoat. Easy to apply, about a year of protection, and acts as a real coating. If you need to polish before just to clean up the paint in case it’s mostly defect free, you can use their Primer.
 
Yeah, Cancoat & CQuartz Lite were the top 2 on the list (Im following Guz durability thread)

I was trying to look for a SiO2 product that can last about 6 months or maybe more with great gloss (white car) and hydrophobics but that I dont have to discard towels, not because of the price of the towels but because the car is white that means if I mess it up I can fix it easily without having to polish.
That is how I conclude that a SiO2 liquid sealant/wax might be a good idea if I maintain it with Cure or Reload/Elixir.
Im a little scared of coatings to be honest



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Essence Plus has a very unique role and it's very useful in that application. However, I don't think that this product will do what you're looking for.
A good option for you might be a SiO2 based wax.
 
WillSports3 said:
Essence Plus has a very unique role and it's very useful in that application. However, I don't think that this product will do what you're looking for.
A good option for you might be a SiO2 based wax.
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Correct, those are the ones that I listed above but apparently none of them stands out of the bunch. At least with the reviews that I have seen here or Youtube.

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I never discarded the towels I used with real coatings and never had an issue. Perhaps for a pro making money on the job it's easy to discard of towels and just build that cost into the service but for a hobbyist throwing towels away every time a coating is installed is crazy.

I primarily use Gyeon Bald Wipe for that. They have been used and washed and continue to be great. I bought some cheaper towels for that purpose from TRC and they aren't as good after the first use/wash, so I only use them now for wheel coating. They just don't feel good like they did when new. The more expensive Gyeon towel is still great after multiple coatings/washes.
 
gorillapr said:
Interesting!

That is with cancoat or you mean a full blown 2yr plus coating?

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Full 2 year coating. I just change towels often (so not to super load them with product and also give the coating time to start curing in the towel) and dunk them in a bucket with Micro Restore / APC and wash at the end of the day. I probably use 6 to 8 towels per layer of coating, 2 at a time.

I haven't used CanCoat myself. That one you spray directly into the towel instead of using the towel just to level the coating like CQ Lite or another full blown coating. I'm not sure how that translates to wear on the towel. Maybe if you're using one towel to spread and one to level CanCoat you can keep the leveling towel but need to discard the one you sprayed into for the whole car? I'm not so sure.

I suggested CanCoat because I know it's easy to do and results are pretty much like a full blown coating, but easier to apply. CQ Lite is basically the same effort to apply as a full blown coating so at that point I'd just use UK 3.0 instead and get at least twice the longevity.
 
Agreed with your point with cancoat, I think the thing with CQ Lite is that you really have to do it wrong for it to leave a high spot, supposedly it is really user friendly plus you get 150ml for the price of 30ml of a full blown.

Nice to know your strategy with the towels.

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gorillapr said:
Yeah, Cancoat & CQuartz Lite were the top 2 on the list (Im following Guz durability thread)

I was trying to look for a SiO2 product that can last about 6 months or maybe more with great gloss (white car) and hydrophobics but that I dont have to discard towels, not because of the price of the towels but because the car is white that means if I mess it up I can fix it easily without having to polish.
That is how I conclude that a SiO2 liquid sealant/wax might be a good idea if I maintain it with Cure or Reload/Elixir.
Im a little scared of coatings to be honest



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If you have not already seen this then definitely watch it. I am in agreement that Lite is more durable as it is closer to an actual coating than CanCoat. CanCoat is nice for its quicker application.

I would not worry about the towels. Edgeless 300's from the rag company are so cheap. Who cares if you have to toss out a couple of them. Microfibers are a consumable.

Your other option is to just use an SiO2 spray sealant and use it often.

I feel like we have gone through this a few times haha.

 
The Guz said:
If you have not already seen this then definitely watch it. I am in agreement that Lite is more durable as it is closer to an actual coating than CanCoat. CanCoat is nice for its quicker application.

I would not worry about the towels. Edgeless 300's from the rag company are so cheap. Who cares if you have to toss out a couple of them. Microfibers are a consumable.

Your other option is to just use an SiO2 spray sealant and use it often.

I feel like we have gone through this a few times haha.

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I dont know how I missed that video!!!!
That is my favorite Youtube channel for detailing, thanks, I will watch it tonight

Hahaha yes man, we have, Im so ocd that overthink everything...
Thank you for you patience and help

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Polish angel Cosmic. Do some interneting and thank PA later. Best hydrophobics for a spray sealant. Your white paint will glow. Theirs not much out their (maybe Overcoat but i dont think its as durable.

Use it with their primer spritz they claim over a month.


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Overcoat is a bit more durable than PA but PA is easier to use. PA is just spritz on when drying and then final buff.
 
Overcoat has great hydrophobics and durability for what it is, but does nothing for looks. And if anything I think it has a tendency to mute the glossy look of your work.

I tossed my last bottle of it.
 
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