Griots Ceramic speedshine

Coatingsarecrack said:
No i feel Frothe is THE safest. Others may be great also and as i stated i got good results from SS. Just use what I feel is best YMMV.
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How would you compare it to Ech2O? It's the safest WW I've tried, but that isn't saying much since I've only tried 1~2 others. I do like it however and have safely cleaned my black, pollen covered or lightly dusty cars with out an damage.
 
I do like to debate, I'm convinced I was a lawyer in a previous life

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Debate? Nah. I see debates as being opinionated and occasionally argumentative.

I see this as a friendly conversation where people share experiences to educate each other and provide comparisons for context. Hopefully we haven't strayed too far off topic.
 
I’m a big WW guy but always use my best instinct when deciding what method to wash my vehicle based on all factors. For winters, I always pre-soaked with WW and then Rinseless wash. I never had too much pressure on me because I always polish my vehicles in spring / summer as needed, so if there’s some minor swirling after a winter of non-traditional washes, so be it. All my cars are daily drivers. But with that said, my cars/paint come out pretty in good shape after winter.

But this is the first year I have a coated car (Q5) so I have finally invested in Frothe after much nudging from c=c (and my own curiosity of course). Being extra paranoid about causing any marring during WW / RW routines, figured this situation combined with Xmas sales was a good time to Frothe it.

Note that I often use these ceramic QDs (Megs HCD fur example and this GCSS would fall really gut in line) as a final wipe after a WW / RW. This allows me to quickly dry my WW/RW without worrying about every streak I may have missed, and then come back with a 5-10 minute QD wipe down for that little extra shine, protection and knowing that it’s cleaning and lubricated enough to safely take care of even heavier streak areas.
 
acuRAS82 said:
I’m a big WW guy but always use my best instinct when deciding what method to wash my vehicle based on all factors. For winters, I always pre-soaked with WW and then Rinseless wash. I never had too much pressure on me because I always polish my vehicles in spring / summer as needed, so if there’s some minor swirling after a winter of non-traditional washes, so be it. All my cars are daily drivers. But with that said, my cars/paint come out pretty in good shape after winter.

But this is the first year I have a coated car (Q5) so I have finally invested in Frothe after much nudging from c=c (and my own curiosity of course). Being extra paranoid about causing any marring during WW / RW routines, figured this situation combined with Xmas sales was a good time to Frothe it.

Note that I often use these ceramic QDs (Megs HCD fur example and this GCSS would fall really gut in line) as a final wipe after a WW / RW. This allows me to quickly dry my WW/RW without worrying about every streak I may have missed, and then come back with a 5-10 minute QD wipe down for that little extra shine, protection and knowing that it’s cleaning and lubricated enough to safely take care of even heavier streak areas.
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Which method of RW do you do...
GD method of grout sponge

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Desertnate said:
How would you compare it to Ech2O? It's the safest WW I've tried, but that isn't saying much since I've only tried 1~2 others. I do like it however and have safely cleaned my black, pollen covered or lightly dusty cars with out an damage.
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Frothe is a foaming waterless wash. Feel it encapsulates dirt better and towels glide on the paint. Klasse is right about feel kinda feels like your scooping the foam off. I still use EE as i feel the trap dirt better but yes it does feel “looser”? Kinda like driving a 70’s musclecar vs a newer musclecar.

I use to pre soak but now i let the frothe do the work. I use 1st towel to remove bulk of foam and contamination. 2nd towel and a drying aid to dry. I use mainly Ammo Hydrate (amazing product).

If car is particularly dirty i may spray again with Ech20 or Mckee’s N-914 and then dry with hydrate.


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acuRAS82 said:
I’m a big WW guy but always use my best instinct when deciding what method to wash my vehicle based on all factors. For winters, I always pre-soaked with WW and then Rinseless wash. I never had too much pressure on me because I always polish my vehicles in spring / summer as needed, so if there’s some minor swirling after a winter of non-traditional washes, so be it. All my cars are daily drivers. But with that said, my cars/paint come out pretty in good shape after winter.

But this is the first year I have a coated car (Q5) so I have finally invested in Frothe after much nudging from c=c (and my own curiosity of course). Being extra paranoid about causing any marring during WW / RW routines, figured this situation combined with Xmas sales was a good time to Frothe it.

Note that I often use these ceramic QDs (Megs HCD fur example and this GCSS would fall really gut in line) as a final wipe after a WW / RW. This allows me to quickly dry my WW/RW without worrying about every streak I may have missed, and then come back with a 5-10 minute QD wipe down for that little extra shine, protection and knowing that it’s cleaning and lubricated enough to safely take care of even heavier streak areas.
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I use to presoak before frothe but i felt this diluted the frothe. With the frothe being foam it dwells better.

Spray the frothe.... let it dwell. If needed spray more on it. What foamer are you using? Did you also buy Hydrate?


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Coatingsarecrack said:
I use to presoak before frothe but i felt this diluted the frothe. With the frothe being foam it dwells better.

Spray the frothe.... let it dwell. If needed spray more on it. What foamer are you using? Did you also buy Hydrate?


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Have you tried AMMO NYC winter booster with the Frothe?

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Klasse Act said:
Have you tried AMMO NYC winter booster with the Frothe?

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No we get snow maybe once or twice a year so not two worried about salt. Knock on wood but neverchad rust issues with any car i’ve own so just didn’t see the beed for boost.


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Coatingsarecrack said:
No we get snow maybe once or twice a year so not two worried about salt. Knock on wood but neverchad rust issues with any car i’ve own so just didn’t see the beed for boost.


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Wait...don't you live in Ohio

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Klasse Act said:
Which method of RW do you do...
GD method of grout sponge

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I use GD method... but if the roof isn’t too dirty I sometimes use a hybrid with the RW MF mitts on the roof and finishing off on the windows before moving on to GD method with MF towels for the rest of the car.

I use to use just mitts when I started until I learned of the GD.
 
Coatingsarecrack said:
I use to presoak before frothe but i felt this diluted the frothe. With the frothe being foam it dwells better.

Spray the frothe.... let it dwell. If needed spray more on it. What foamer are you using? Did you also buy Hydrate?
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Will do, per your instructions.

I only have the IK foamer (not 2.0, the previous one). Didn’t even think about getting a better one. I’ll at least try the one I have first.

I did buy Hydrate as well. How/when should I use?
 
acuRAS82 said:
Will do, per your instructions.

I only have the IK foamer (not 2.0, the previous one). Didn’t even think about getting a better one. I’ll at least try the one I have first.

I did buy Hydrate as well. How/when should I use?
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The IK works fine but if you do buy a foamer try the marolex or Ammo Aerator. I like it best with the dry tip in the IK. It was kinda runny for me with medium.

If car not to dirty i will foam a panel let dwell for a minute or so and then wipe foam off in a swiping/ turning motion. My goal is just to get the bulk of it. If their are foamy streaks thats fine. They’ll wipe off when drying.

I will at this point spray 2-3 sprays Hydrate per panel. I spray directly on car. It’s thick like lotion so won’t go everywhere. Then just wipe down with 16x16 pfm(2 per car). I spray on car as i feel as a drying aid it spreads more evenly (less chance towel marring?).

Some tips:

don’t worry about foam in cracks and crevices you can’t reach foam will dissipate.

First couple times you may over spray onto other panels till you get use to it but no big deal.

The Hydrate is nice as a drying aid after a bucket wash. It doesn’t leave behind to much protection but the buttery feel makes me think it’s doing most against marring and thats what I look for in a drying aid. Try it with a PFM and let us know what you think!


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"Hi, you can actually use Ceramic Speed Shine as a rinse aid in a similar way to Gyeon Wet Coat!" - Griot's
 
I used this yesterday after my wash, but I sprayed it on the headlights and then rinsed off. It worked well that way. I don't think that would be the most ideal way to use the product. Prior to spraying it on the headlights the water would just stay on the surface. A quick light spray of GCSS followed by water made it very hydrophobic.
 
Anyone know how GCSS compares to Meguiars X-Press Spray Wax or their Ultimate Quick Wax?
 
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