RMG=micromarring

[lethalxls1]

Last time my car was detailed Red moose machine glaze was applied with a 7.5" gray finishing pad with a pc and the results were amazing. This time around my car needed some paint correction for swirls. SIP with white LC pad(more severe areas a orange 5.5 LC pad was used-mainly the roof) followed by Nano with white LC pad followed by Nano with Blue LC finishing pad. The results were really good. The next step is going to be a wash to remove dusting before 2 thin coats of Souveran, but because the RMG really worked well in the past a test area was done on the hood to see if the differance would be worth the extra step. It was applied with a blue LC 5.5 pad. After buffing the area with a MF clothe severe micro marring was present!!! I cannot understand why. A gray LC pad was used in the past with RMG and no micromarring. I am pretty confused why this happened. Needless to say RMG will be skipped. Any ideas? anyone else has a issue like this with RMG? Was the blue pad too soft(if thats possible). Thanks for and input in advance.

 

[blk45]

Did you do an IPA wipe down after the 106 to be sure that the finish was perfect before the RMG?

I use the blue LC pad with RMG and have never had an issue on black or any other color. Was there any way for the blue pad to be contaminated before you started? (Dust, left over product,etc.) Did you shake the RMG well before using it? Maybe a small lack of product on the pad.

 

[richy]

That does seem strange. I have used it multiple times with the gray pad with fantastic results. I agree with above for possible reasons. I'm going to try Danese glaze next time, heard nothing but great things about it.

 

[lethalxls1]

Did you do an IPA wipe down after the 106 to be sure that the finish was perfect before the RMG?

I use the blue LC pad with RMG and have never had an issue on black or any other color. Was there any way for the blue pad to be contaminated before you started? (Dust, left over product,etc.) Did you shake the RMG well before using it? Maybe a small lack of product on the pad.

The car wasnt wiped down with IPA but it was inspected under 3 halogen lights wiped with dist. H2O and wiped with Prima Slick. The 5.5 Blue LC pad was brand new out of the wrapping and the RMG was shook well/held upside down for a few minutes/ then shaken well again. The Blue LC 5.5 pad was primed with dist. H2O and small dabs of rmg around the entire pad-after the rmg was spread around on level 1 on the PC two dime size dabs were applied to the pad to ensure enough product(with a new pad I always add a small bit more product because alot usually is absorbed by the new pad). On the 5.5 pad a 3.5" backing plate was used and I am wondering if that could cause an issue-even though I am not sure how it would. I am thinking a 4.75" plate should have been used w/ the 5.5" pad? I am in awe really because I didnt think RMG had any abrasives in it? No problem like this occured with a 7.5 gray LC pad the last time RMG was applied-very odd.

Thanks for the input guys-I appreciate the help.

 

[blk45]

As you mentioned, the only thing I see is the undersized BP. I'm with you, I don't see how that would cause an issue, but it's the only thing out of the ordinary. Did you try it with the 7.5 gray again (with the correct BP) to see if it resolved the issue?

 

[nrengle]

If the pad was straight out of the bag and hadn't been washed could've been something in the pad, some kind of fine partical...

I always wash all my MF and pads before first use just for this reason. Had the same thing happen with some MF towels a long time ago. I choked it up as a lesson learned.

 

[lethalxls1]

As you mentioned, the only thing I see is the undersized BP. I'm with you, I don't see how that would cause an issue, but it's the only thing out of the ordinary. Did you try it with the 7.5 gray again (with the correct BP) to see if it resolved the issue?

Will be trying the 7.5 gray LC w/ RMG just to see what happens. I will let ya know the results. Thanks

 

[lethalxls1]

If the pad was straight out of the bag and hadn't been washed could've been something in the pad, some kind of fine partical...

I always wash all my MF and pads before first use just for this reason. Had the same thing happen with some MF towels a long time ago. I choked it up as a lesson learned.

Will be taking your advice from now on and pre washing new pads/mf's. Never washed the new pads before use in the past because I believed since they were in a sealed plastic bag they were clean but as you mentioned-thats not always the case. With some help I have narrowed it down to these reasons:

1) contaminated pad
2) wrong size backing plate
3) it being a new pad and also being a blue pad-not enough product was used. I find #3 the most difficult to believe because it appeared more than a ample amount of product was used BUT as pointed out by another member here-the blue pads being softer soak up product more than other pads such as white etc.

Will be trying the blue 5.5 pad and RMG again(since the blue pad has been washed) to try to narrow down the causes even further.
Will also be trying a blue 7.5 pad and RMG to check the results and try to figure out exactly why this happened. Its a mystery that must be solved! hahahahahahaha J/K I am just curious thats all.
Thanks guys!