Blackfire AIO plan

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Washed, clayed, and applied Blackfire AIO yesterday. In the past I have always used Meguiar's Gold Class Carnuba by hand.

Car had terrible water spots that nobody sees but me. In the past I had clayed, compounded, polished, and waxed by hand with no change to the waterspots.

I use this 4Runner off road so I live with some scratches.

The Blackfire AIO looks great. I used LC white hybrid pads with my SupaBEAST. Test spot didn't come close to what I wanted. Fortunately, Mike reminded me that this is a daily driver and I need to preserve the clearcoat, so I didn't move up to orange cutting pads. (Have a molehill, don't need a mountain).

Did a second test spot with 10 passes per section. This removed 70% of the water spots.

Got a nice smile, after wiping the dried product at the end.

I will come back and write a complete review later. Tapa Talk took my literary creativity.
 
Looks great!

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Besides working great, did you notice how easy it is to wipe-off?



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Wipe-off was effort less. Did the whole car, then wiped it all.

I had never clayed the glass, headlights, and taillights before...WOW! Used the BF AIO on them too...GREAT!

Mike, do you have preference. Glass with fresh pads, or at end of that pads cycle?

Also, Thank you to Dr. Olds. Your write-up was very helpful
 
Burger said:
Wipe-off was effort less. Did the whole car, then wiped it all.
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That's the way to do it. Makes it easy on you.


Burger said:
I had never clayed the glass, headlights, and taillights before...WOW! Used the BF AIO on them too...GREAT!
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The BLACKFIRE One Step or AIO works decent on glass if the glass isn't to bad. By "too bad" I mean older cars with water spots that have been baking on in the sun for years. We have cars like this in South Florida.

As for headlights and tail lights - works great to restore a clear, shiny surface.

If you have a car that's a few years old and the headlights are starting to fade and yellow, the BF One Step will easily remove the oxidation and restore clarity. Then instead of trying to seal them with something, just stay on top of them with the BF One Step.

Both approaches can work, sealing and using an AIO - just depends on how complicated you want to make it.


Burger said:
Mike, do you have preference. Glass with fresh pads, or at end of that pads cycle?
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Normally at the end of the pad cycle but I swap out pads often so the pads I use are never saturated to the point they are soppy wet.

When foam becomes wet - it loses it's function.

  • Foam cutting pads stop cutting.
  • Foam polishing pads stop polishing.


Foam finishing pads are soft naturally so there's less of a diminishing effect if they become wet with product but we should still swap out pads accordingly and with common sense.



Burger said:
Also, Thank you to Dr. Olds. Your write-up was very helpful
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Jim's write-up on BF One Step is well-written with lots of helpful tips.


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Applied BF BlackICE Hybrid Liquid Wax. 48 hours after AIOView attachment 73913

These BF products sure live up to all that I have read here. They wipe off so nice. I like the wax so much that I'm going to begin using it on my Harley. I have used Meguiar's Gold Class Carnuba forever. Not anymore.. I like the gloss from the BF, and of course, it's SO much easier to remove from the small detail spots.

I used the BF pad cleaner too. Synergy. I'm going to try the BF Instant Detailer, and the BF Waterless Wash too.

My go to for daily car wipe downs (I live on a dirt road) has been Meguiar's Ultimate Waterless Wash & Wax. Not sure if any product can replace that. Will do a side by side test.

Thanks to all for the guidance. This has been a really fun learning experience.

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Burger said:
... My go to for daily car wipe downs (I live on a dirt road) has been Meguiar's Ultimate Waterless Wash & Wax. Not sure if any product can replace that. Will do a side by side test...
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Try Meguiar's D115 Rinse Free Express Wash & Wax. It's a similar product to the Ultimate Waterless Wash & Wax but it is available by the gallon and can be diluted up to 20:1. Much more cost-effective than the Ultimate.

I use it regularly on my black vehicles at 4:1 dilution. Buying it by the gallon is so cost-effective that I haven't even tried higher dilutions. I prefer the additional safety margin of the 4:1 dilution, even if the additional safety margin is only in my head.
 
Tried D115...No Joy.View attachment 73916

Thanks for the idea, but I find the D115 kind of "grabby" on the towel, and streaky. I find I need more passes (touching the paint) than UWWW. I use Cobra 1616G (blue one side, grey other side) for my rinseless and waterless washes. I just now tried the 4:1 D115 on the BF Ice Wax. Feels the same as on the Carnuba.

The UWWW is on the pricey side. $30/gallon vs $17 for dilluted D115. I'm very happy with it on my white vehicles that are waxed with Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid Wax. I'm dealing with dusty cars on a dirt road.

My wife's year old white Rav 4 Hybrid really benefits from the bit of wax in the UWWW. Always feels freshly waxed and REAL glossy.

I miss the D114. Do you use the D115 as a rinseless?

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Burger said:
... Do you use the D115 as a rinseless?
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I use it a little differently than the label... Kind of a hybrid rinseless/waterless process.

I mist it on, then wipe with a towel saturated with D115, and follow up with two clean dry towels for final buff. In areas that I don't want any overspray from misting it on, I'll just use the saturated rag. This method is especially useful on my bikes as the mist overspray is a real issue there.

And just a note... Before doing anything with the D115, I ALWAYS clean off the loose dust/dirt with a California Car Duster first. I know that might make you cringe but I've been doing it that way for years and it works for me.
 
2black1s said:
Try Meguiar's D115 Rinse Free Express Wash & Wax. It's a similar product to the Ultimate Waterless Wash & Wax but it is available by the gallon and can be diluted up to 20:1. Much more cost-effective than the Ultimate.

I use it regularly on my black vehicles at 4:1 dilution. Buying it by the gallon is so cost-effective that I haven't even tried higher dilutions. I prefer the additional safety margin of the 4:1 dilution, even if the additional safety margin is only in my head.
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I just looked back at your "after bike trip" post to see what you are using on your black Street Glide. Same Meguiar's as I'm using on my white cars. Maybe I will do a side by side test on my black Road Glide. One saddlebag Meguiar's, one saddlebag BF Ice.

If either attracts less dirt road dust, it will be my go to.
 
2black1s said:
I use it a little differently than the label... Kind of a hybrid rinseless/waterless process.

I mist it on, then wipe with a towel saturated with D115, and follow up with two clean dry towels for final buff. In areas that I don't want any overspray from misting it on, I'll just use the saturated rag. This method is especially useful on my bikes as the mist overspray is a real issue there.
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I do the exact same process on cars. But not on my bikes. On the bikes, soaked microfiber, squeezed out microfiber, and Griots PFM. I think Harley paint is even softer than Toyota. Picture your black bike after a day of dirt pull outs and parking lots. Mine is that dirty before I get to the pavement. I might carry a soaked microfiber in a sealed tumbler and a drying towel in the saddlebag.
 
I feel for you and the dirt road. I don't know how I would handle that.
 
2black1s said:
I feel for you and the dirt road. I don't know how I would handle that.
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It SUCKS for So. Cal. clean car boy! (me)

But; 10 acres, quiet, no neighbors, and my shop faces a few thousand acres of open land. Still...SUCKS for clean vehicles.
 
Burger said:
... I think Harley paint is even softer than Toyota...
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What year is your Road Glide? I have a 2002 Deuce and a 2019 Ultra Limited. In between I also had a 2011 and 2017 Ultra Limited.

On the '02 and '11 bikes I agree that the paint is as soft as anything. But somewhere along the way between '11 and '17 that changed. The paint on my '17 and my current '19 is no where near as soft as the earlier bikes.
 
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