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I went to our annual Back to the 50's car show yesterday and looking at all the vehicles, first thing I see are swirls. Almost every car that had shiny paint was covered in swirls. Before I bought my Golf R (March 2020) and joined this form, I would have never noticed, but now swirls stick out like a sore thumb. Curse you detailing Gods. :D

BTW, it was nice that the show was back (canceled last year due to covid). It was packed as ever. It's been a while since I've been to to that show, but this year seemed to be themed un-modified, un- restored, slightly rusty, faded/missing paint.....etc. Years ago it was all about the rat rod. No complaints, just an observation.
 
Odrapnew said:
I went to our annual Back to the 50's car show yesterday and looking at all the vehicles, first thing I see are swirls. Almost every car that had shiny paint was covered in swirls. Before I bought my Golf R (March 2020) and joined this form, I would have never noticed, but now swirls stick out like a sore thumb. Curse you detailing Gods. :D

BTW, it was nice that the show was back (canceled last year due to covid). It was packed as ever. It's been a while since I've been to to that show, but this year seemed to be themed un-modified, un- restored, slightly rusty, faded/missing paint.....etc. Years ago it was all about the rat rod. No complaints, just an observation.
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You must be from Minnesota. I'm in White Bear.

Ya, there are some beautiful cars out there with some absolutley trashed paint.

Saw a dark burgundy 1st gen. Firebird out there with a nice laying paint job but looked like a pneumatic rotary with a 3in. wool pad was used on it. It's was horrific !
 
Yup, MN born and raised.
I actually live about 7 blocks away from the north entrance to the fair grounds.

I honestly stopped really looking at the paint shortly after we got there. Like you said, lots of potentially very nice cars, ruined by poor polishing that most people don't see.

The only 2 pictures I took were of a 65 Cobra replica with what may have been a modern GT350 engine(Voodoo). If it was real, bet that flat plane crank singing 8200rpm sound through side pipes would sound glorious. A Factory Five roadster is on my bucket list.
 
LMAO! Isn't it funny how we all look at vehicles whether they be Rolls Royce's to Kia's. We now look ay=t vehicles to see how well maintained they are!...LOL Curse the Detail Gods!

KEEP ON ROCKING!
 
lol yeah i see swirls all the time now too. Before detailing i would have not noticed it one bit. Thats why i "try" to keep my expectations reasonable for my daily driver. Swirls are going to happen but i love the gloss!

I done a quick polish on my bonnet before i came back to work over 2 weeks ago with a lake country SDO orange pad, gyeon primer and my griots G15 on speed 4.5. My arm movement was slow/correction speed and i done 2-3 passes until i felt the polish breakdown. Lots of swirls left and even a few light waterspots but damn the paint is glossy. I applied polish angel's high gloss the next day. People have noticed it.
 
Great weekend. I find myself more critical about paint jobs 90% done. A few days with a block sander wet sanding would pay big dividends

Majority of the cars are driver quality providing “smiles by the miles” for their owners. As you have seen, not everyone even worries about scrubbing and dressing their wheels & tires. Even a spray can of tire foam would do wonders.

The owners are happy and that’s all that matters.
 
Ive been going to this show for years.Too much junk at the back the 50s these days
Used to be a good show until the rat rods started showing up... Don't get me wrong there are some real nice cars there. But lately.....
Go to the Street Machine Show next month. No junk allowed. Mostly muscle cars.
Night and day difference imo.


Street Machine Summer Nationals(R) July 16-18, 2021 - Street Machine Nationals

This is one of the biggest shows in the country.


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John U said:
Looking forward to Street Machines.
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Street Machine > BTT 50's

Poor quality picture of my car with a couple buddies at Street Machine about 7 years ago

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Used to be in those shows, attended those shows and now don't bother anymore and it's amazing that nothing has changed, I don't get it

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I find the people who say they "really look after their rides" can be the worst sometimes. They list the products they use and silently I'm going "nope, nope, nope". I don't show them the swirls or watermarks, I leave them dumb and happy.

The worst I remember was a guy who drove his porsche 911 into the high pressure spray wash, than used a spray wax on it before he cleaned it, apparently it made the water run off better. He said he was a panel beater and he knew how to look after paint. It was all swirls.

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I may hit up the Street Machines show this year as well.
I definitely like the variety there vs. BTT50's.

Since I live so close to the grounds, it's also easy for me to walk down to Snelling for the cruising scene in the evenings.
 
Odrapnew said:
I may hit up the Street Machines show this year as well.
I definitely like the variety there vs. BTT50's.

Since I live so close to the grounds, it's also easy for me to walk down to Snelling for the cruising scene in the evenings.
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Do you charge people to park in your yard/driveway during the State Fair?
My nephew lives just off Midway Pkwy near Pascal ( 2 blocks from the main gate) and squeezes 10 cars in his yard for 20 bucks a pop.
He made over 5 grand 2 years ago.

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Same here, honestly. I remember the days when every sunny day that I drove my car, that evening was spend using detail spray to wipe off all the dust and road grime lol. I'd use one to two microfiber towels from O'Reilly Auto and drop them in the dirty clothes bin. Now, I can only bring myself to do any kind of "wipe down" if I've washed it within the last day or two and only if I've just gone for a drive. Anything else is a full wash or 10 or more microfiber waterless/rinseless wash. I still get some minor marring etc, but I'll have to do a fine finish polish every year. Never mind the cost difference, it's the amount of extra work that is involved just to ease the mind haha.
 
dieselfan1 said:
Do you charge people to park in your yard/driveway during the State Fair?
My nephew lives just off Midway Pkwy near Pascal ( 2 blocks from the main gate) and squeezes 10 cars in his yard for 20 bucks a pop.
He made over 5 grand 2 years ago.

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No for 2 reasons.
Main reason is I can't (legally). I live in Falcon Heights, which bans parking in the yard.
And the other reason is I'm far enough away that it would be hard to charge for parking in my yard although on nice weekends during the fair our street will fill up by 9am.

The people who own the house on the corner of Snelling and Hoyt have to rake in the dough as well.
Their whole yard is essentially gravel, so they can park a lot of cars (I think I counted something like 20 one time).
 
I painted when in college and for a few years after.

The horrible paint jobs I'd see, especially by the DIY crowd just made me cringe sometimes. Nobody seems to understand in which direction to roll out a ceiling. I still look at heinous giant brush marks on trim as well as ropes or roller lines on walls. Don't even get me started on caulking. Well done caulk lines shouldn't be more than 1/8"...less if it's on properly installed wood trim. I've seen guys gob it on like they're dressing a toothbrush with toothpaste.

I'm a painting snob.

Now I'm a detailing snob.
 
It's like the kid from The Sixth Sense... "I see swirls...!"

For me it's everywhere I go. Car's and Coffee, car shows, walking across a parking lot at work...even watching auctions on TV. I'm not sure which disappoints me more, a swirled out car or one with obvious, and horrible looking rotary buffer holograms. The swirls are self induced, but the owner most likely paid good money to get the holograms carved into the paint.

I don't know how to operate a rotary and would never take one to a customer car for this reason. I'd also never even think about leaving someone's car with them all over the place. There is a car in my parking lot at work with serious holograms all over it. At no point does the paint look shiny and glossy at all...near or far away. It's just a bad job that changes based on the distance and lighting.
 
Big Dave said:
I find the people who say they "really look after their rides" can be the worst sometimes.
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I don’t go to car shows anymore. I love nice cars, classic cars, and can talk quite fluently about engines, model years, etc. but I can’t seem to have a decent conversation with anyone at these swirl shows.

When I kindly mention my detailing business to most folks at cars and coffee its taken as a challenge to their ability to care for their own car. I am told they do their own detailing. Their cars are actually swirled-out disasters with exhaust tips that haven’t been touched in a year.

I know my posture is just another angle of car snobbery, but I have checked out of car shows. They drive me nuts.


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I agree 100%.

This GT was in our shop today for the Takata air bag recall. It was a swirled-out mess up close.
(I didn’t get any close-ups because the owner was standing a few steps away. He just thought I was taking the pic because I was enamored with the car.) :laughing:


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Guarantee he ‘does his own detailing’.


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