Can I wetsand these or is the paint done?

[TheBayAYK]

I'm new to this but have done some compounding/polishing before. Just never wetsanded (but have watched plenty of videos).

I have a DA and have multiple pads/chems.

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[Rsurfer]

IMO you should not wet sand those clouds. If they were peeling, yes, but wet sanding will only make it worse. Lightly polish to level out the clouds, lsp and put a fork in it.

 

[TheBayAYK]

Thanks Rsurfer. Definitely don't want to make it worse.

 

[Rsurfer]

Thanks Rsurfer. Definitely don't want to make it worse.

The clouds are clear coat failure. You should have base coat (color) under the clouded clear.

 

[NoClue]

Pardon my ignorance, but what would cause this type of clear coat failure?

 

[glen e]

You can polish and scrub all you want, but you’re rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic….The only thing that’s going to really make this go away is a repaint. I’ve been through this several times down here in Florida. It’s all UV saturation on cheap clearcoat , (or lack of clearcoat) that causes this. Honda horizontal surfaces down here are the absolute worst…
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[Rsurfer]

Pardon my ignorance, but what would cause this type of clear coat failure?

Lack of protection and UV.

 

[TheBayAYK]

Lack of protection and UV.

Ya, I didn't get it detailed or waxed once during the shelter in place (from like March 2020 to summer 2021). I just started driving the car daily a month ago. Time flew by and I didn't think to apply some wax or sealant. BTW, it's a 2012 BMW 328i. The rest is good but the hood has all the issues.

 

[Rsurfer]

Ya, I didn't get it detailed or waxed once during the shelter in place (from like March 2020 to summer 2021). I just started driving the car daily a month ago. Time flew by and I didn't think to apply some wax or sealant. BTW, it's a 2012 BMW 328i. The rest is good but the hood has all the issues.

You might want to get the hood painted only.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Besides all the great info shared already...


Factory clearcoats are thin. Feel a post-it note between your thumb and index finger - your clear coat is thinner than this.

1. Sanding removes paint.
2. Compounding removes paint.
3. Polishing removes a "little" paint.

Chances are good, if you attempt to sand and buff you're going to see the color of the basecoat on your buffing pad. That's a real bad sign.


If you plan on keeping the car and are willing to pay to have the hood re-painted. First go get some estimates so you know what you're getting into - and THEN try to sand and buff. If you are successful - good for you. If you buff through the clear - well you knew what you were getting into and take her to the body shop for a repaint.


Sanding paint is an art form, a skill and a technique. It can be mastered but just remember - most sanding, in fact about 95% of all "wetsanding" is done to repaints after collision work or custom paint jobs. It's not done for fun on factory paint.


Hope the above helps...

 

[Rsurfer]

Besides all the great info shared already...


Factory clearcoats are thin. Feel a post-it note between your thumb and index finger - your clear coat is thinner than this.

1. Sanding removes paint.
2. Compounding removes paint.
3. Polishing removes a "little" paint.

Chances are good, if you attempt to sand and buff you're going to see the color of the basecoat on your buffing pad. That's a real bad sign.


If you plan on keeping the car and are willing to pay to have the hood re-painted. First go get some estimates so you know what you're getting into - and THEN try to sand and buff. If you are successful - good for you. If you buff through the clear - well you knew what you were getting into and take her to the body shop for a repaint.


Sanding paint is an art form, a skill and a technique. It can be mastered but just remember - most sanding, in fact about 95% of all "wetsanding" is done to repaints after collision work or custom paint jobs. It's not done for fun on factory paint.


Hope the above helps...

:wowwow:We have the governor in the house. :laughing: Nice to hear from you Mike.:xyxthumbs:

 

[dgage]

Honda horizontal surfaces down here are the absolute worst…
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My old 2000 Acura TL did that on the rear trunk first and rear roof after about 10 years. Had it repainted and that was the best $3500 I spent as I kept the car for another several years before getting a newer Acura TL. Next daily will likely be an electric performance one though.

 

[ZRX61]

BTW, it's a 2012 BMW 328i. The rest is good but the hood has all the issues.

Apparently someone put Honda paint on a Beemer