Lake Country HDO/CCS

It really doesn't count since I had to acquire all new products and tools to get back on the horse! It would be comic though:D
 
chilly said:
Wow, not liking that, but that could and probably does happen with any brand

I think because I started out with a PC 7424 (not an XP) I developed a very light touch with a polisher and pads

I never overwork them and generally get a long life out of them

Also as the years go by I have cut way back on how much work I do in a given period of time, usually a couple of panels a day or even less, so I don't need 10 of every pad (notice I said NEED, not WANT)... lol

I have months until I am ready to plop down $$$ on polishers, pads, and liquids so I will just keep reading and making notes of your guys experiences

I have to say I have taken notice that Scott (Sizzle) uses Griots BOSS CC and PC on a wide variety of paints/car brands, but then he could probably make a car shine with a rock

That is the kind of simplicity I am after, assuming it works for me of course

I know enough to know it is NEVER as simple as that, and there will always be the outlier that you struggle and fight with until you have that AH HA moment

I think that is why we wake up one day and realize we have 7 different compounds and 10 different polishes we don't use regularly and we can't remember when we bought them or what we bought them for

Maybe as I get older and more forgetful I need to keep a diary of cars and the stuff that worked, assuming I take on ANY extra work after getting my new garage up and running

Sorry, didn't mean to be so long winded
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I started on a rotary and didn't need to be heavy handed with it!

I also used those cheap 6" Autozone orbitals and that helped me keep the pressure in check.

When I bought a PC in 2011, it was a huge enjoyment. It was a lot more friendly than the rotary, and a lot of fun. It was small and nimble compared to the huge and somewhat cumbersome rotary chassis.

I picked up Meguiar's Ultimate Compound and Polish along with green, blue, and red Hex Logic pads, and got started. In all honesty I could go back to that and probably be fine. In fact I'm going to take that set up to work today and have some nostalgic fun with it. Back when that's all that I had it was simple and effective.
 
dlc95 said:
I started on a rotary and didn't need to be heavy handed with it!

I also used those cheap 6" Autozone orbitals and that helped me keep the pressure in check.

When I bought a PC in 2011, it was a huge enjoyment. It was a lot more friendly than the rotary, and a lot of fun. It was small and nimble compared to the huge and somewhat cumbersome rotary chassis.

I picked up Meguiar's Ultimate Compound and Polish along with green, blue, and red Hex Logic pads, and got started. In all honesty I could go back to that and probably be fine. In fact I'm going to take that set up to work today and have some nostalgic fun with it. Back when that's all that I had it was simple and effective.
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EXACTLY!!!

Doing it that way forces us to learn all the subtleties of a couple of products and how to get the best of them and use them in as wide a range of situations as possible

I was the same way at first and honestly was probably better off for it, not just money wise but skill wise

I was never a latest and greatest guy, chasing that last .01% of gloss, but I did fall into the trap of thinking a new pad or a new liquid would solve a paint correcting dilemma instead of just thinking it through and adjusting my process with what I already had on hand

Don't get me wrong, I love tinkering but at the price of pads and liquids today I think a little restraint on my part would be a good thing for my wallet and buying and LEARNING everything I can about a small core of products will make me a better detailer
 
luckydawg said:
You ever try any of the fancy new fangled spyder pads?
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Not yet. I was thinking of picking up some of those 3D pads to see how they work with their polishes. They have the 7" available with the spider cut. I could try them on the PC or the Rupes 21.
 
Just some feedback: The orange CCS/HDO is very nice, i could really push down on the pad and still have good control over rotation. Rupes still have by far the best fitting pads on my 5 inch baking plate and it helps to machine wash the yellow and white foam.

And my old fav sonax perfect finish - very little dust! - brought a smile to my face.

Loving wiping down polish residue with a rag soaked in N914 too.
 
chilly said:
I am wondering about the difference in longevity of the HDO vs SDO in a home use environment as well as the "feel" difference between the two

I am assuming the HDO is a bit stiffer than the SDO but feel free to school me if I am wrong
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The foam part of HDO / SDO is actually the same. The difference is the HDO (Heavy Duty Orbital ?) is intended to be used with the harsh movements of the large throw machines (15mm and 21mm). The SDO (Standard Duty) is intended for 8mm (short throw ?) machines. That's what the additional foam part on the HDO is for.

I'm a fan of the SDO line and was super happy when they somewhat recently came out with the smaller sizes! They work well for me, and are a great value, especially during sales. Crazy good value.

I'm looking into maybe getting more HDOs as I'm planning on using a 15mm a bit more soon. Just to change things up.

The Uro-Tech line also catches my eye due to their price point.
 
JustJesus said:
The foam part of HDO / SDO is actually the same. The difference is the HDO (Heavy Duty Orbital ?) is intended to be used with the harsh movements of the large throw machines (15mm and 21mm). The SDO (Standard Duty) is intended for 8mm (short throw ?) machines. That's what the additional foam part on the HDO is for.

I'm a fan of the SDO line and was super happy when they somewhat recently came out with the smaller sizes! They work well for me, and are a great value, especially during sales. Crazy good value.

I'm looking into maybe getting more HDOs as I'm planning on using a 15mm a bit more soon. Just to change things up.

The Uro-Tech line also catches my eye due to their price point.
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You definitely want HDO’s for a long throw. The SDO’s have a bit too much movement on a long throw.
 
The Guz said:
You definitely want HDO’s for a long throw. The SDO’s have a bit too much movement on a long throw.
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Where do you personally draw the long throw vs short throw dividing line?

I ask because I am considering a machine with a 12mm stroke and that number seems to really blur the lines

I think most people agree that a 9mm is short and a 15mm is long so there is a big middle ground
 
The Guz said:
You definitely want HDO’s for a long throw. The SDO’s have a bit too much movement on a long throw.
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Definitely! I seen the slo-mo video from LC showing that in action.


chilly said:
Where do you personally draw the long throw vs short throw dividing line?

I ask because I am considering a machine with a 12mm stroke and that number seems to really blur the lines

I think most people agree that a 9mm is short and a 15mm is long so there is a big middle ground
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Oh wow. 12. That's almost down the middle, slightly leaning closer to 15 than 8.
 
JustJesus said:
Oh wow. 12. That's almost down the middle, slightly leaning closer to 15 than 8.
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Leave it to me to complicate things...

lol

If I went with the 12mm machine I could buy HDO pads just to be safe but they are double the cost of the SDO

Just thinking out loud at this point
 
I know this is a Lake Country thread but the B&S Uro-Tec pads are well liked too though I usually use those with the Flex CBeast so not exactly the same but I’m sure there are a lot of users with regular DAs using those pads. Just throwing that out there in case prices are a little better than HDO.
 
dgage said:
I know this is a Lake Country thread but the B&S Uro-Tec pads are well liked too though I usually use those with the Flex CBeast so not exactly the same but I’m sure there are a lot of users with regular DAs using those pads. Just throwing that out there in case prices are a little better than HDO.
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Depending on where I look they kind of split the difference between HDO and SDO, pricewise

I have seen and read good things about them plus they make them down to 1"
 
chilly said:
Where do you personally draw the long throw vs short throw dividing line?

I ask because I am considering a machine with a 12mm stroke and that number seems to really blur the lines

I think most people agree that a 9mm is short and a 15mm is long so there is a big middle ground
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SDO’s would be what I would use. The Rupes duetto didn’t have the power that LHR 15 has so it’s not as violent.

JustJesus said:
Definitely! I seen the slo-mo video from LC showing that in action.
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I see it when I use the SDO and HDO on my Rupes.
 
dgage said:
I know this is a Lake Country thread but the B&S Uro-Tec pads are well liked too though I usually use those with the Flex CBeast so not exactly the same but I’m sure there are a lot of users with regular DAs using those pads. Just throwing that out there in case prices are a little better than HDO.
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Yep, I'm that user.
 
chilly said:
Leave it to me to complicate things...

lol

If I went with the 12mm machine I could buy HDO pads just to be safe but they are double the cost of the SDO

Just thinking out loud at this point
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My Swirl Killer mini is a 12mm but a 3” it like the BOSS pads better than the lake country flats and CCS. I think it was due to pad being thinner just ran smoother.

Not sure if that helps on a bigger system but thought I’d throw that out there for the mini user’s


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Coatingsarecrack said:
My Swirl Killer mini is a 12mm but a 3” it like the BOSS pads better than the lake country flats and CCS. I think it was due to pad being thinner just ran smoother.

Not sure if that helps on a bigger system but thought I’d throw that out there for the mini user’s


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I agree. I’ve actually blown up a few LC Flats on my Mini Swirl Killer. The little Boss Pads seem to really benefit from the center cooling chamber. Plus I like the tapered edge.

I didn’t know you had a Mini Swirl Killer.
 
Eldorado2k said:
I agree. I’ve actually blown up a few LC Flats on my Mini Swirl Killer. The little Boss Pads seem to really benefit from the center cooling chamber. Plus I like the tapered edge.

I didn’t know you had a Mini Swirl Killer.
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I use a SK Mini at work!

I use the 15 and the Mini and I actually, really enjoy using them.
 
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