Autopia Traffic!!! Wow!!!

Pats300zx said:
I really don't understand what you mean by that. I have found some of the most knowledgeable detailers in this profession on Autopia. The advice and contacts I have made and gotten on that forum is unmatched.
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I know many hobbist and professionals alike that visit that site and read posts, most prefer not to post as they feel they are easily challenged, ridiculed, or harrased when discussing certain products.

I agree there are also alot of great members there, and as such was I visit site. I for one, am still in awe of alot Scottwax has accomplished and love to see his fresh pics. Look at how they bash him for being honest and saying he prefers this or that when its obvious his techniques and product choices work !
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
I for one, am still in awe of alot Scottwax has accomplished and love to see his fresh pics. Look at how they bash him for being honest and saying he prefers this or that when its obvious his techniques and product choices work !
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LOL So true! It is enough that he posts "I went for bike ride and got caught by rain on my way back" and within seconds there is a pileup "Scott is bashing Zaino again!" LOL
 
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ZoranC said:
LOL So true! It is enough that he posts "I went for bike ride and got caught by rain on my way back" and within seconds there is a pileup "Scott is bashing Zaino again!" LOL
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That's strange, I have been a member for a long time, autopia has helped me get to where I am as far as procedure, product usage, and overall professionalism. When I start a job, I calculate every precise angle and dimension of the auto at hand thanks in part to autopia, and it's members, including Scott. Never have I read a thread insinuating Scott bashes Zaino, matter of fact, the guy uses Zaino, I talk to him on the phone often and consider him a friend. I have been able to help many newcomers as well and I see it as giving back, the way it should be. I'll have to ask him about that alleged abuse he's received, maybe I've missed something over the last four years.
 
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I have never read anything that Scottwax has posted that attacked Zaino. He does not like to mix ZFX. If that is an attack then he is an attacker. Yet somehow I do not see this as an attack but rather a preference.

The only thing that Scott may get attacked for is his picture taking prowess. I think that he takes great pictures. In fact if my tree in the front yard had not needed mending I knowI would have some pictures of my black truck with Scott doing the detailing and taking the pictures. I know that I would learn alot from watching him.
 
cwcad said:
I have never read anything that Scottwax has posted that attacked Zaino.
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That is correct. He does not bash Zaino and I did not say he does. All I said is that moment he posts anything, no matter how much Zaino unrelated, number of Z-heads piles up on him reading what is not there, accusing him that he is somehow bashing Zaino.
 
Brian_Brice said:
That's strange, I have been a member for a long time, autopia has helped me get to where I am as far as procedure, product usage, and overall professionalism. When I start a job, I calculate every precise angle and dimension of the auto at hand thanks in part to autopia, and it's members, including Scott. Never have I read a thread insinuating Scott bashes Zaino, matter of fact, the guy uses Zaino, I talk to him on the phone often and consider him a friend. I have been able to help many newcomers as well and I see it as giving back, the way it should be. I'll have to ask him about that alleged abuse he's received, maybe I've missed something over the last four years.
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While on subject of reading what is not there, please reread what I said in my previous post in this thread.

What I said (him getting hard time from Z-heads for absolutely nothing) is very easy to spot, one really can not miss it, and has been going on for a while.
 
ZoranC said:
While on subject of reading what is not there, please reread what I said in my previous post in this thread.

What I said (him getting hard time from Z-heads for absolutely nothing) is very easy to spot, one really can not miss it, and has been going on for a while.
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I would not like to disturb the herd and continue this conversation, I have said my perspective, no need to re-read.
 
I do like Autopia for one reason... It's an open product forum. I have met a lot of great people there and have helped hundreds if not thousands (guests that will not subscribe). I have helped some people on there go from average to top notch paint correction perfectionists. We have all helped each other in so many ways.

I do agree that there is more guests than members. It seems like they are scared to join and voice their opinion or ask a question. On the click and brags, I wish more would respond. I remember doing a click and brag and going back to it ten minutes later it had 3 members and 15 guests.

AG is a great site and is starting to really get some great products and expand. I know it is a very tight crew over here and that's cool. I'll have to start posting here more often.
 
Thats the only problem with this forum. Can only talk about AG products and since I'm ordering only pads, plates and gallons of Menzerna from here from this point (left the other products behind), I don't really have much to talk about

Autopia was the first place I found and it's been the members who have helped me become what I am today
The only problem with it is that certain people there don't want to move to the new world of products that use fillers that get locked in and permanently fill, paint softening agents that make the paint harder to scratch once your finished polishing. They don't want to move away from zaino and constantly say it's the best sealant blah blah blah.
Zaino is definately not the longest lasting or most protective sealant despite what they claim.

As for the numbers, it's better to have a smaller, tight nit community than having tens of thousands of members and as many viewers.
As for click and brag - theres only so much you can say about a top job really
 
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I for one am awfully thankful to the experts that use their valuable time here, to give us their take on the actual, rather than marketed, quality of various products and methodologies. At the end of the day, if you ask a question, you will get an answer, or even many, but its your car and your cash.

Sometimes its difficult to give advise on products on a non-open forum, as I would prefer to give a complete answer i.e. methodology and product (one that I've actually used and found to give the results expected there are some products that work far better than others (i.e. Menz but it is sold by AG so its not a problem) although I will add that AG does seem to stock the better new products- System One for instance

As for other detailing forums they all have their good and bad points, posters that provide unbiased information, and some who will post to boost their ego more than genuine information, etc but AG maintains a friendly (and usually) non-confrontational stance
 
I think it all depends on one thing.

Are you looking for friends on the internet or quality information from professionals?

Flames and biased opinions are everywhere, ignore it. There is a wealth of information to learn from on Autopia. It has been called the detailing Wikipedia.
 
AG is more touchy feely than Autopia - Autopia cannot be discounted - It is a great source of information and I can honestly say people do offer opinions or help...

People extending themself to offer help on autopia is not based on being in the clique which I find refreshing.
 
While Autopia is huge, there is a certain friendliness about AutoGeek's site....hard to put into words, except you feel "comforable" hanging around here.

And, I've seen as well as posted threads about products that don't/didn't exist in AutoGeek's inventory: System One for example. I think a company like AG looks for products that could be a good "fit" for them to distribute.

And, to be sure, there are spirited discussions about products (similar to Oba-Clinton vs. Hucka-Cain...but let's not EVER go there). But sometimes good comes out of these discussions: the company owner jumps in with information and knowledge.

All-in-all a very fun place to visit and an evening doesn't go by without an ethernet cruise to AutoGeek.

Toto
 
D&D Auto Detailing said:
Autopia has a lot of very knowledgeable people. Some of which have recently started posting here.
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I've also noticed this and will be participating here more too. I think this site has changed alot recently and feel there's some good energy happening. Plus, I'm all for supporting a Florida based operation. :cheers:
 
There are multi-levels of discussion and obviously everyone no matter of their background can post anything. For a newbie asking a naive or simplistic question can be like a crap shoot.

I heard a comment by someone that also applies to some people on the forums.

You can ask some people what time is it and they will tell you how to build a watch. The first step to removing some scratches does not necessarily mean investing in hundreds of dollars of products.
 
MotorCity Honda said:
AG is more touchy feely than Autopia - Autopia cannot be discounted - It is a great source of information and I can honestly say people do offer opinions or help...

People extending themself to offer help on autopia is not based on being in the clique which I find refreshing.
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Totally agree with you on that. I also think that its exaggerated how some say there is a lot of bickering and drama there. Most of the time there isn't, and when there is, it can be quite entertaining :D.
 
I also agree with Tom regarding the attitude of some of their Members. Absolute retards some of them, I'd rather a Forum with 10 AG members then 10,000 Autopia members.

AG rocks.
 
6LS2 said:
I also agree with Tom regarding the attitude of some of their Members. Absolute retards some of them, I'd rather a Forum with 10 AG members then 10,000 Autopia members.

AG rocks.
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i couldnt agree more.
 
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