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Hi!

Just bought a used 2020 Silverado in Summit White, and would like some help in choosing products for it. Different use than my Camaro (garaged, not driven, etc), so I think there would be better products for what I need.

Goal is clear coat protection, and slickness for washing/drying with a leaf blower, with minimal amount of work.

What are some cheaper chemical decons? I usually have only used an iron remover, but I have been reading some kind of tar remover would help also? Any cheap recommendations? I have read that they pretty much all work the same. Is that true?

Are the clay towels, or similar products faster than a traditional clay bar? Maybe its just me, but the regular clay takes me forever to do small cars.. this truck I will probably be claying into 2023.

I have used sonax in the past, but am seeing that 3dOne is a good one step polish. Not looking for something with a wax or any protection in it, just dont want to do multiple stage correction. Definitely looking for a one step since i am not trying to get a ton of gloss or anything. Is 3dOne probably what i am looking for? Will 16 ounces do the full truck? I know sonax needs pretty little product, but just thinking if i should get a bigger bottle just in case.

What is a good pad to go with the 3dOne or other one step? I have a griots g9 with a 5" backing plate. I am really not sure on this one what to go with.

Lastly, i would like to go with some kind of sealant to help protect the clear. something that is longer lasting, but also easy and fast to apply. Good water spot protection against my sprinklers, durability since the truck will sit outside in the sun all day, and slickness for ease of cleaning, etc. I was thinking maybe cancoat, seal and shine, or something similar? anything else that is basically a wipe on wipe off, that may last longer or be more durable, etc? I ceramic coated my Camaro, but dont want to do that much work for this truck.

Thank you so much!
 
A 16oz bottle of 3D One will do at least 5 cars for one steps. You have a few options for a 1 step pad. A polishing or heavy polishing foam pad and 1 step microfiber pads, which would be for a moderate level correction on medium to hard paints.

Examples:

Polishing pad - Lake Country orange SDO with or without CCS
Heavy polishing - Lake country blue SDO with or without CCS

I don''t use microfiber much but the buff and shine uro-fiber 50/50 is a popular one step with 3D One.

Most people would advise one of the foams.
 
serper3 said:
Hi!

Just bought a used 2020 Silverado in Summit White, and would like some help in choosing products for it. Different use than my Camaro (garaged, not driven, etc), so I think there would be better products for what I need.

Goal is clear coat protection, and slickness for washing/drying with a leaf blower, with minimal amount of work.

What are some cheaper chemical decons? I usually have only used an iron remover, but I have been reading some kind of tar remover would help also? Any cheap recommendations? I have read that they pretty much all work the same. Is that true?

Are the clay towels, or similar products faster than a traditional clay bar? Maybe its just me, but the regular clay takes me forever to do small cars.. this truck I will probably be claying into 2023.

I have used sonax in the past, but am seeing that 3dOne is a good one step polish. Not looking for something with a wax or any protection in it, just dont want to do multiple stage correction. Definitely looking for a one step since i am not trying to get a ton of gloss or anything. Is 3dOne probably what i am looking for? Will 16 ounces do the full truck? I know sonax needs pretty little product, but just thinking if i should get a bigger bottle just in case.

What is a good pad to go with the 3dOne or other one step? I have a griots g9 with a 5" backing plate. I am really not sure on this one what to go with.

Lastly, i would like to go with some kind of sealant to help protect the clear. something that is longer lasting, but also easy and fast to apply. Good water spot protection against my sprinklers, durability since the truck will sit outside in the sun all day, and slickness for ease of cleaning, etc. I was thinking maybe cancoat, seal and shine, or something similar? anything else that is basically a wipe on wipe off, that may last longer or be more durable, etc? I ceramic coated my Camaro, but dont want to do that much work for this truck.

Thank you so much!
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For chemical decontamination, I get the feeling most iron-removers are pretty similar. A lot of the difference will come down to what scent they have laced the product with to hide some of the putrid smell. If you are sticking to a budget, then just pick-up something from an auto-store, ie Megs or Chemical Guys (OMG, did I just recommend a CG product? :laughing:). Otherwise, I use Carpro IronX and Gyeon Iron, but would also steer you towards P&S Iron Buster.

For mechanical decontamination, I have transitioned to clay towels and blocks. You are correct, they are easier to use and manage. But know they are not quite as good at lifting contaminants than a traditional clay bar. If you are doing the iron-remover step thoroughly, you will mitigate a little of that.

For tar removal, my go to is Carpro TarX, but Stoner's Tarminator is good to have on hand as well for stubborn tar deposits.

For protection, I cycle between Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant, Jescar Powerlock and Collinite 845. If you can, I would highly recommend Gyeon Can Coat, very easy to apply and offers an easy 12 months protection compared to the 3 - 4 months the others offer.
 
If you want a cheap iron remover wait for a 25% off sale. Thise softens the blow. I also find that they all sort of work the same. I'm using Optimum Ferrex which is also said to help with tar as well. IronX LS is another I keep on the shelf. The Megs is nice too, and doesn't seem to smell as strong.

I have used the Nanoskin clay pads, and Optimum Clay Towel, but the Megline of clay is my favorite. The Mother's OTC clay is nice too. Going forward I see the Opti clay towel getting the most use.

3D ONE is also a great multi stage polish. That being said, it's cut to finish ratio makes it a huge asset when one stepping around the vehicle.

For a sealant that's durable and fast, Duragloss Aquawax was always a favorite of mine for that. These days I tend to reach for Optimum Opti-Seal. I feel like I've finally got the correct application down with it. One of my panels on my car has been wearing it since May and it's still beading up beautifully in the rain or when being power washed.

Opti video:
Optimum Opti-Seal At Four Months - YouTube
 
serper3 said:
Lastly, i would like to go with some kind of sealant to help protect the clear. something that is longer lasting, but also easy and fast to apply. Good water spot protection against my sprinklers, durability since the truck will sit outside in the sun all day, and slickness for ease of cleaning, etc. I was thinking maybe cancoat, seal and shine, or something similar? anything else that is basically a wipe on wipe off, that may last longer or be more durable, etc? I ceramic coated my Camaro, but dont want to do that much work for this truck.

Thank you so much!
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Guess your not wanting much
 
polishing it with Griot's AIO and seal with Meg's Hybrid painting coating...anything easier(less) than that I like to call being lazy and getting chitty results.....
 
A few good LSPs (sealants) I'd recommend are Optimum Gloss Coat, Gyeon Can Coat and Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating. The Meguiars may be your best bet as it is the easiest to use of the bunch and can easily hang in as long as Can Coat (all are easy but Megs a bit more so from what I've read).
 
I'll second Gyeon Can Coat Evo. Folks here turned me on to that and so far, I really like it. It's not as cheap as some of the other options but it does last quite awhile.
 
I think you have some solid recommendations here. Starting w a polish, I have had very good experiences with 3D One. Easy to use, easy to wipe off.

But now Ill take a slight turn in the conversation and offer some thoughts for the KISS- keep it simple way of doing things...

I vote +1 for Duragloss Aquawax for an LSP on a daily driver. On my wifes car, (black Equinox) I did a light polish w 3D One, then a first, careful application of Aquawax. Afterwards- the upkeep was simple by using a quick coat of Aquawax as a drying aid or as a wipe on / wipe off application every 4-6 weeks or so. The vehicle always looks great 2 years later, especially considering its a daily driver. The effort to keep it like this is minimal.

I have also used McKees Hydro Blue on my company car (a white Tahoe). Its a spray and rinse product. This is a vehicle that takes a lot of miles, lives outside and may be subject to being replaced at any time by my boss, so I don't want to really invest too much time or effort into this truck. Started w/ a good through wash. Could have corrected the paint, but didn't cuz its the company car. Otherwise, Hydro blue is a spray onto a wet car after washing type product. Then rinse with a solid spray to leave behind beading and gloss. I am always amazed at how this simple product makes a big difference in the appearance of this vehicle. Helps to keep bugs and dirt from sticking, even keeps up the glass and chrome grill+black plastics. Such bare minimum effort. Repeat every 6-8 weeks.

So I think a lot of your choices should be influenced by how much time you have for the car and how you will maintain it afterwards. I don't go for the show car look on the daily driver that my wife and kids drive. But those cars still look better than 95% of what's out there. I know others have some more extensive recommendations on steps and products, but I thought I would offer up slightly different options if you chose that route. Best of luck!
 
It is a big ask of any form of protection to help against sprinklers. If you are looking for slickness with CanCoat, well you are not going to get it. Yes it is a great product and I have a review on it on the forum. Most coatings won't offer that slick feeling. A sealant will offer that and some spray coatings. They won't last as long as coating or even a lite version of a coating like CanCoat. The ease of maintenance goes over to the coating.

Someone mentioned the Meguiar's coating and that is a good option as well. It will give you what you are looking for.
 
Bosko said:
polishing it with Griot's AIO and seal with Meg's Hybrid painting coating...anything easier(less) than that I like to call being lazy and getting chitty results.....
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Using an AIO prior to a coating give me the shakes.

My guy at work does this and his cars are always coming back with a failed coating.

He does an Eraser wipe, but the paint is still slick after!
 
dlc95 said:
Using an AIO prior to a coating give me the shakes.

My guy at work does this and his cars are always coming back with a failed coating.

He does an Eraser wipe, but the paint is still slick after!
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I wouldn't use one either if I was doing a hi solids coating.....Meg's is a polysiloxsane

but ya...you are right I really don't see why someone would use an AIO if they had a coating in mind as an LSP
 
Every once in a while Autogeek a
Has 30-40% off their house brand and it’s a great time to stock up.

Bought a gallon of the Blackfire Iron remover and paint prep for $40 apiece.

I like the iron remover a lot as it’s thicker than Iron X and clings better.


The paint prep is nice but I’ll be honest I only use it on other cars. Love the smell of CP Eraser it’s all my car sees.


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Coatingsarecrack said:
Every once in a while Autogeek a
Has 30-40% off their house brand and it’s a great time to stock up.

Bought a gallon of the Blackfire Iron remover and paint prep for $40 apiece.

I like the iron remover a lot as it’s thicker than Iron X and clings better.


The paint prep is nice but I’ll be honest I only use it on other cars. Love the smell of CP Eraser it’s all my car sees.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Gyeon prep smells VERY nice too. Eraser is fantastic as well. I wish they would lose the pink on prep however lol

My bottle of prep is nearly gone - don't you love using a full bottle without trying something different!...i was going to order it again but i might just go back to eraser - i like the trigger better on prep however. I'm really not fond of the pink color lol

I used tacsystems mild pink clay this year too. Not a fan of pink just the other p word lol

Just rambling now: What is everyone using for clay? I read recently that clay towels can actually be more aggressive than regular clay. I always thought regular clay was by default more aggressive.
 
noorth said:
Gyeon prep smells VERY nice too. Eraser is fantastic as well. I wish they would lose the pink on prep however lol

My bottle of prep is nearly gone - don't you love using a full bottle without trying something different!...i was going to order it again but i might just go back to eraser - i like the trigger better on prep however. I'm really not fond of the pink color lol

I used tacsystems mild pink clay this year too. Not a fan of pink just the other p word lol

Just rambling now: What is everyone using for clay? I read recently that clay towels can actually be more aggressive than regular clay. I always thought regular clay was by default more aggressive.
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You don't like pink? Hmm, you might not like a few things in my cabinet. :laughing:



Eraser and Prep are very similar, I would not be surprised if they were the same thing except for the coloring. If you don't like the color, just pour it into a different spray bottle.......

 
None of that is on the same degree of "pink" as gyeon prep or tacsystems pink clay. haha

Have you ever used pink clay? Its painful HAHA

I don't like PINK products and thats my story.

Its well and proven colors affect our minds.
 
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