Carpro Cquartz Lite first time user?

Thanks for your reply
28-32 degrees C with humidity in the 80-90 range (this was the temperature when applied day before). Summer has only began. Doesn't seem much but people from overseas say its hotter here than back at there home town. I thought a temperature is what it is and just the humidity.
19 degrees C was about 8am - this was this morning which was better to apply and wipe off, not ideal though.

About to do girlfriends 2022 Kia Sportage SUV 2022 in about 2 days.
Need to work earlier in the morning at around 7am about 17 degrees C.

With your experience what would the top temperature to work with under my circumstances as a guide.

I think it is a combo of heat, over use and old product.

I would try a new saver. Prime with 10 drops as the way you explain it falling out of applicator may be bigger drops.

Try this early morning.

If same problem I think your products to old. Also you mentioned it feeling like sand paper. With a nitrile style glove on pour some product on your fingers and rub around to see if it feels gritty.

If gritty or still hard to apply I would by new product before applying to another car. Give CanCoat a try.


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I think it is a combo of heat, over use and old product.

I would try a new saver. Prime with 10 drops as the way you explain it falling out of applicator may be bigger drops.

Try this early morning.

If same problem I think your products to old. Also you mentioned it feeling like sand paper. With a nitrile style glove on pour some product on your fingers and rub around to see if it feels gritty.

If gritty or still hard to apply I would by new product before applying to another car. Give CanCoat a try.


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That's what happened to mine. It actually still performed well in spite of the more difficult application / removal.

It was so grabby that there was microfiber towel lint in the coating.
 
Thanks for your reply
28-32 degrees C with humidity in the 80-90 range (this was the temperature when applied day before). Summer has only began. Doesn't seem much but people from overseas say its hotter here than back at there home town. I thought a temperature is what it is and just the humidity.
19 degrees C was about 8am - this was this morning which was better to apply and wipe off, not ideal though.

About to do girlfriends 2022 Kia Sportage SUV 2022 in about 2 days.
Need to work earlier in the morning at around 7am about 17 degrees C.

With your experience what would the top temperature to work with under my circumstances as a guide.

15-25 degrees would be optimal. I would pick up a new bottle of lite. It sounds like it has started to go bad giving you a bad user experience.
 
I think it is a combo of heat, over use and old product.

I would try a new saver. Prime with 10 drops as the way you explain it falling out of applicator may be bigger drops.

Try this early morning.

If same problem I think your products to old. Also you mentioned it feeling like sand paper. With a nitrile style glove on pour some product on your fingers and rub around to see if it feels gritty.

If gritty or still hard to apply I would by new product before applying to another car. Give CanCoat a try.


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Thanks.
Definitely better in the morning but still bit grabby. Second wipe is good.

With the gritty side of things, it went away when I changed sides on the Auto Saver Aplicator.
 
That's what happened to mine. It actually still performed well in spite of the more difficult application / removal.

It was so grabby that there was microfiber towel lint in the coating.
Thanks
Seems to have come out really nice, just a lot of work like you said.
Well ok, mine didn't leave any lint in the coating.
How did you get it out?
 
15-25 degrees would be optimal. I would pick up a new bottle of lite. It sounds like it has started to go bad giving you a bad user experience.

Thanks
Would using it in this state damage the paint?
Other than putting the extra work in.
It seems to be better by quite a bit in the cooler temperatures.
Happy to do it 7-8am in the morning.
The way it performed in the morning yesterday I would be ok with this over my girlfriends car.
The only thing for me and her is the damage to her new cars paint.
 
Just a thought maybe I over worked the product with the cross hatching.
Went over area 2-3 times, is this too much?
 
I would move on to the next car and try the less is more approach and see how that goes. Does anyone know if the little finger applicators that CarPro includes in the kit are lined like coating savers? That could be another variable in the application process. Have you watched Sandro’s video. It really helped me out.
 
I would move on to the next car and try the less is more approach and see how that goes. Does anyone know if the little finger applicators that CarPro includes in the kit are lined like coating savers? That could be another variable in the application process. Have you watched Sandro’s video. It really helped me out.

Good suggestion to watch sandro's video.

And yes the carpro mitts are coating saver style. Cheaply made on the inside but they are.
 
Sandro @ Car Craft Auto on YouTube talks about prim8mg with 12 drops and then going to 5ish drops after that. I’m sure that’s what I followed originally. I really do expect your problems are due to the amount you used as it was so much more than I experienced (with good results). Not sure about the discussion about tops. The only reason I didn’t do mine originally was because I couldn’t get to it on the tall vehicle.
Please could you post the link to this video, looked but can't find.
 
I have the bigger Saver Applicator as well, would this be better to use.
 
Thank you, watched it.
Confirms the general comments.
12 drops as a primer then about half that going forward.
He has used it in 40 degrees C heat but found had to be more diligent in the wipe off stage.

I used the carpro foam block / suede swatch to apply Lite, but the following approach will work with those huge microfiber bricks too.

I drew two lines of coating over the applicator and would reload similarly (you'll need more for the big microfiber bricks). For smaller sections I'll do a quicker, smaller line, but you want enough material on the section to leave a wet film of product on the section. You don't want it puddling or running, but you don't want to apply a whisper thin layer either.

Most of my initial issues with glass bottle coatings was not putting enough material onto the paint. For years with waxes and sealants it was recommended to apply a very thin layer - not so with coatings.

Yesterday I stayed late at work because a Jeep came in for a coating. It was a rush job that needed to be done by end of day today. As luck would have it, we had a guy come from another shop to put an electric Hummer together after being vinyl wrapped.

This shop he's from does a lot of work with Xpel, and he works closely with the film / coating guy there. He even helos with coating applications. While he agreed that ceramic coatings are the devil, he verified my process that I literally came up with last week. A healthy film of material on the substrate, pick up the bulk, and "buff" (I think the industry called it "leveling") the remaining residue, careful to not re-deposit it on an adjacent panel/section. Lite is way easier to use than Xpel Fusion, but the technique was similar. The recent tweak was not trying to get all of the material off on the initial removal. My old technique had me re-depositing the coating as I wiped, then it seemed to force cure and then the smears and high spots needed to be polished away. Done this way the Xpel sort of reminds me of the Meguiar's Hybrid Coating in application and resultant, tactile feel. Very slick.

I only mention this because with some of these coatings, starving the applicator can be anightmare situation. Mention of drops reminds me of the approach I used that gave me less than acceptable results.

Conversely, with Optimum Gloss Coat, I can do the drops, but you still want to get a wet film on the paint. Just seems their formula and foam applicator help spread the product farther. The bulk of the material will "flash" or "crosslink" into the substrate leaving much less to level out. I really like, even enjoy this approach, so I stick with it.
 
I used the carpro foam block / suede swatch to apply Lite, but the following approach will work with those huge microfiber bricks too.

I drew two lines of coating over the applicator and would reload similarly (you'll need more for the big microfiber bricks). For smaller sections I'll do a quicker, smaller line, but you want enough material on the section to leave a wet film of product on the section. You don't want it puddling or running, but you don't want to apply a whisper thin layer either.

Most of my initial issues with glass bottle coatings was not putting enough material onto the paint. For years with waxes and sealants it was recommended to apply a very thin layer - not so with coatings.

Yesterday I stayed late at work because a Jeep came in for a coating. It was a rush job that needed to be done by end of day today. As luck would have it, we had a guy come from another shop to put an electric Hummer together after being vinyl wrapped.

This shop he's from does a lot of work with Xpel, and he works closely with the film / coating guy there. He even helos with coating applications. While he agreed that ceramic coatings are the devil, he verified my process that I literally came up with last week. A healthy film of material on the substrate, pick up the bulk, and "buff" (I think the industry called it "leveling") the remaining residue, careful to not re-deposit it on an adjacent panel/section. Lite is way easier to use than Xpel Fusion, but the technique was similar. The recent tweak was not trying to get all of the material off on the initial removal. My old technique had me re-depositing the coating as I wiped, then it seemed to force cure and then the smears and high spots needed to be polished away. Done this way the Xpel sort of reminds me of the Meguiar's Hybrid Coating in application and resultant, tactile feel. Very slick.

I only mention this because with some of these coatings, starving the applicator can be anightmare situation. Mention of drops reminds me of the approach I used that gave me less than acceptable results.

Conversely, with Optimum Gloss Coat, I can do the drops, but you still want to get a wet film on the paint. Just seems their formula and foam applicator help spread the product farther. The bulk of the material will "flash" or "crosslink" into the substrate leaving much less to level out. I really like, even enjoy this approach, so I stick with it.
Thanks for your reply.
So you put more on the applicator, like a full line.
How many cars approx would a bottle of Lite coat?
 
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