Alright boys, let’s get a plan together for my late dads Jeep Cherokee.

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I’ve been putting this off way to long and I need to go ahead and get it over with. My dad passed away in 2021 and I inherited his ‘95 Jeep Cherokee. I don’t know when the last time it’s been washed and I want to polish it up to make it look nice.

I only snapped a couple of pictures on my way in from work, but I’m not sure how to shine something this neglected. I know the first step is to wash it, I’m guessing with more acid based soap, but then what? Do as normal? Iron decontamination then clay bar the heck out of it before buffing?

What do your genius minds think?


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[Uncbrs]

6.5 RE lift, cut the fenders, 33" mudders... those things are such tanks. I miss my old one from my HS days. I spent one summer sanding mine down to have it painted in their 2001 Patriot Blue.

From the detailing perspective, there will be much more knowledgeable people along soon. You just sparked a memory for me though!

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6.5 RE lift, cut the fenders, 33" mudders... those things are such tanks. I miss my old one from my HS days. I spent one summer sanding mine down to have it painted in their 2001 Patriot Blue.

From the detailing perspective, there will be much more knowledgeable people along soon. You just sparked a memory for me though!

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It’s only got 150k on the odometer. Needs some work though. Alternator, shocks, u joints, floor pans just to name a few.


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[opie2]

What soaps do you have on hand?

If it were in my posession, i would... foam with a high ph alkaline soap. That would better break down the grime compaired to an acidic soap.

Then pw all the grime off i could. Then iron remover if you want. Then bucket wash it with that same soap.

Then access the paint condition. Clay.

Are you looking for just a paint enhancement? If so i would just use 3d speed

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What soaps do you have on hand?

If it were in my posession, i would... foam with a high ph alkaline soap. That would better break down the grime compaired to an acidic soap.

Then pw all the grime off i could. Then iron remover if you want. Then bucket wash it with that same soap.

Then access the paint condition. Clay.

Are you looking for just a paint enhancement? If so i would just use 3d speed

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Let’s see… I have megs gold class, cg honeydew, Carpro reset.. looks like I’ll be putting an order in. I saw DFB hit his bosses car up with Descale and Lift back to back, may give that a whirl. Not like it’s gonna hurt it.

I’m not wanting it to look 100% factory new, I just want it to shine up to that deep red that it was before. I have some speed, griots fcc, griots polishing cream, megs 105 and megs 205.
I would like to do a 3 step on it and since speed is a 2 step, I think I’ll pass on that option. Im open to buying something if need be…


Which brings me to pads. Right now I have the G9 with LC orange flats… I know you’re a fan of the forces, is there anything like that line for a DA? I seen the SDO and HDO line but I ain’t for certain on how good they are. I think I have some B&S Uro-Cell pads but not enough to do the whole Jeep. Probably could get it to the buffing stage and try what I have to see if I’m gonna need a stronger combo.


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[opie2]

Let’s see… I have megs gold class, cg honeydew, Carpro reset.. looks like I’ll be putting an order in. I saw DFB hit his bosses car up with Descale and Lift back to back, may give that a whirl. Not like it’s gonna hurt it.

I’m not wanting it to look 100% factory new, I just want it to shine up to that deep red that it was before. I have some speed, griots fcc, griots polishing cream, megs 105 and megs 205.
I would like to do a 3 step on it and since speed is a 2 step, I think I’ll pass on that option. Im open to buying something if need be…


Which brings me to pads. Right now I have the G9 with LC orange flats… I know you’re a fan of the forces, is there anything like that line for a DA? I seen the SDO and HDO line but I ain’t for certain on how good they are. I think I have some B&S Uro-Cell pads but not enough to do the whole Jeep. Probably could get it to the buffing stage and try what I have to see if I’m gonna need a stronger combo.


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Yes descale and lift are good soaps to have on hand, and work well.

From what ive read, theres nothing wrong with those lc flats. Im pretty sure thats what paulMys uses on his g9.

What do you mean speed is a two step? Also what you mean by a three step? Cuz a three step correction is pretty involved, And ment to shoot for perfection.

I could even see hittin that paint with a mf cut pad....ppl love those b@s urofibers, along with a compound. Is it doesnt finish down as well as you like, then finish out with speed or a regular polish.

Id say Speed if your not going with some sort of ceramic protection

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[SNP209]

Wash, clay/iron decon, 3D speed

 

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Yes descale and lift are good soaps to have on hand, and work well.

From what ive read, theres nothing wrong with those lc flats. Im pretty sure thats what paulMys uses on his g9.

What do you mean speed is a two step? Also what you mean by a three step? Cuz a three step correction is pretty involved, And ment to shoot for perfection.

I could even see hittin that paint with a mf cut pad....ppl love those b@s urofibers, along with a compound. Is it doesnt finish down as well as you like, then finish out with speed or a regular polish.

Id say Speed if your not going with some sort of ceramic protection

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Well from what I’ve read, speed is a compound/polish without the wax. 3D One has the Wax in it (I believe it’s Poly) while I’m not going for perfection, I would like to get it as good as I can get it when I’m doing it.

I wont be ceramic coating it. Probably just do the TWHS Spray stuff, as many here seem to like it.

I’ll give it a good wash Friday with what I have and see what that does, then go from there..

Also, it has a leaking valve cover gasket. Probably wouldn’t be a good idea to clean the engine bay until that’s fixed eh? Don’t want to push water/APC where it doesn’t belong.

 

[opie2]

Well from what I’ve read, speed is a compound/polish without the wax. 3D One has the Wax in it (I believe it’s Poly) while I’m not going for perfection, I would like to get it as good as I can get it when I’m doing it.

I wont be ceramic coating it. Probably just do the TWHS Spray stuff, as many here seem to like it.

I’ll give it a good wash Friday with what I have and see what that does, then go from there..

Also, it has a leaking valve cover gasket. Probably wouldn’t be a good idea to clean the engine bay until that’s fixed eh? Don’t want to push water/APC where it doesn’t belong.

You have 3d speed and 3d one backwards. 3d speed is an "aio" cleans,polishes,and protects, as it contains poxy.

3d one is a compound/polish. Which is pad dependant so that determins how much cut you get. Ive never used 3d one and probly never will. Many ppl on here like it.

And personally i would not worry about water when cleaning out the engine bay with that bad gasket. I would want that clean b4 i preform the repair anyway.

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Well from what I’ve read, speed is a compound/polish without the wax. 3D One has the Wax in it (I believe it’s Poly) while I’m not going for perfection, I would like to get it as good as I can get it when I’m doing it.

I wont be ceramic coating it. Probably just do the TWHS Spray stuff, as many here seem to like it.

I’ll give it a good wash Friday with what I have and see what that does, then go from there..

Also, it has a leaking valve cover gasket. Probably wouldn’t be a good idea to clean the engine bay until that’s fixed eh? Don’t want to push water/APC where it doesn’t belong.

You have Speed and 3D One flipped. 3D One is the compound/polish and Speed has the protection in it.

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You have 3d speed and 3d one backwards. 3d speed is an "aio" cleans,polishes,and protects, as it contains poxy.

3d one is a compound/polish. Which is pad dependant so that determins how much cut you get. Ive never used 3d one and probly never will. Many ppl on here like it.

And personally i would not worry about water when cleaning out the engine bay with that bad gasket. I would want that clean b4 i preform the repair anyway.

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Yeah, I realized that now. For some reason I thought it was the other way around. I even ordered Poxy when I ordered Speed to put over it lol

Alright gentlemen, I appreciate all the info. Will start the process Friday if I don’t get rained out and will post updates here.

Again, appreciate the info and wisdom.


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It’s only got 150k on the odometer. Needs some work though. Alternator, shocks, u joints, floor pans just to name a few.


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Agreed with a good wash. Look into 3ph Wash and if you don’t mind spending a little more look into Labocosmetica 3ph Wash.

Have some small brushes (including soft tooth brushes to get all books and crannies.

I would use a iron remover and tar remover first. Then do baggie test to decide if your gonna need fine, medium or aggressive claying.

Then I would use griots FCC or CC with the LC flats. To get swirls and scratches. Then hit it with a polishing pad and a polish with perfecting and a polishing pad. Protect with product of your choice.


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Sorry to hear about your dad. I look forward to seeing this done. I had a red 96 back in the day.

I’m also in the camp of wash, clay/decon, and HD Speed.


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Agreed with a good wash. Look into 3ph Wash and if you don’t mind spending a little more look into Labocosmetica 3ph Wash.

Have some small brushes (including soft tooth brushes to get all books and crannies.

I would use a iron remover and tar remover first. Then do baggie test to decide if your gonna need fine, medium or aggressive claying.

Then I would use griots FCC or CC with the LC flats. To get swirls and scratches. Then hit it with a polishing pad and a polish with perfecting and a polishing pad. Protect with product of your choice.


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I get the baggy test, but how does it determine what kind of clay to use? The more it grabs, the more aggressive measures I’ll need?

Edit: the 3PH soap you’re referring to is that Labocosmetica PURÌFICA?
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I get the baggy test, but how does it determine what kind of clay to use? The more it grabs, the more aggressive measures I’ll need?


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The rougher the surface feels the more bonded contaiminants are present on the paint.

Iwould use nothing less than meguiars mild clay, wouldnt hurt to probly use megs agressive clay. Eldo always reccomends that one.

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The rougher the surface feels the more bonded contaiminants are present on the paint.

Iwould use nothing less than meguiars mild clay, wouldnt hurt to probly use megs agressive clay. Eldo always reccomends that one.

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Any idea what kind of clay bar these are? Probably mild. I looked the box over and couldn’t find any specification.



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Any idea what kind of clay bar these are? Probably mild. I looked the box over and couldn’t find any specification.



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That is a fine clay. You will need to look online or an actual deatiling brick and motar store near you to find mild or aggressive clays

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[Coatingsarecrack]

I get the baggy test, but how does it determine what kind of clay to use? The more it grabs, the more aggressive measures I’ll need?

Edit: the 3PH soap you’re referring to is that Labocosmetica PURÌFICA?
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It’s Primus (alkaline) followed by Purifica (acid) and then Semper (ph neutral)

You can try to mix in your own alkaline and ph7 with Purifica but if you need it all I’d stick with the kit.


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I did a test run with what I had on hand. I used Speed on the top left of the hood with LC Flat, Bottom right was Griots FCC with a Uro-cell, bottom right was fcc with a LC flat and top right was speed with a Uro cell.

Looks about the same to me. Definitely needed to do a deep wash on this. The pads I used are lookin rough. If I was worried about getting a better finish, I would really deep clean the Jeep but I’m happy with the results and will probably just go ahead and do the whole Jeep tomorrow.

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I definitely prefer the Uro-Cell over the Flats. The flats feel like they want to “hop” around or bounce. The UC didn’t feel like that at all. The UC’s are a little bigger too.

Now I’m gonna break out my GR3 mini and see what I can screw up.

 

[392hemi]

Are your pads pulling oxidation?