My System One Review

Meghan said:
Budman is right, when I used system one I did not have that much trouble with splatter or dusting. But I always work in my polish for a bit before turning on the machine... this is true for all liquid products. I also find if you use a pad conditioner or something else with your pads it will help a lot too. Results will vary is a disclaimer all products should have, we all approach a job with different tricks or techniques so results will be different. Lets all keep that in mind, try it, if you like it great, if it doesn't work for you, there are a 100 more to try! :buffing:
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that's the thing, I put some on the pad... worked it in, then as soon as i turned the flex on.... poof, white snow... but again it didn't do it on the hood, just weird is all im saying
 
see its weird...i did it 2 times in the sun and didnt dust at all....then i did it another time and it dust like crazy...hmm
 
FWIW, the pad was brand new. Very definite learning curve and a difficult product to finish with on soft Porsche paint..

I have pictures that I will upload today showing the dusting, it was out of this world, as well as the product "clumping". Of course both where on a rotary. We switched to M105 on a full wool pad and found the cut to be much faster and much cleaner, leaving a much nicer finish behind.

For final polishing, 3M Ultra Fina finished down a little cleaner and had zero hologramming, though the holograms could be caused by the ultra soft Edge White pad since it was "grabbing" the paint slightly. As Tom had admitted early, he tested this product against body shop stuff and it is probably better then that. As far as competeing with the high end stuff, not even close, IMO.
 
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TH0001 said:
FWIW, the pad was brand new. Very definite learning curve and a difficult product to finish with on soft Porsche paint..

I have pictures that I will upload today showing the dusting, it was out of this world, as well as the product "clumping".
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Sometimes it takes to match pad and polish for the things to work right and mismatch can result in issues and this might be one of those. It is my understanding Tom worked hard with Edge guys to come up with perfect match bewteen pad and polish so giving it another try, but this time with pads that come in system, might be in order before dismissing it.

Especially because "show off" videos posted on System One reseller site show no dusting at all even when work was done by noobs.

But they all used system's pads and recommended speed.

TH0001 said:
We switched to M105 on a full wool pad and found the cut to be much faster and much cleaner, leaving a much nicer finish behind.
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When we can expect M105 "mini review" you posted on Autopia to be posted on AGO? I am sure many people here would like to hear what you think about it now that you actually worked with it, did you like it or not, was I right or wrong about it and abrasives used in it or not.
 
ZoranC said:
When we can expect M105 "mini review" you posted on Autopia to be posted on AGO? I am sure many people here would like to hear what you think about it now that you actually worked with it, did you like it or not, was I right or wrong about it and abrasives used in it or not.
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I'll post a review about M105 on AGO when the Geek sells it. Would they appericate me comming on here and posting a review about Zaino?

It does work differently then any other product I have ever tried, and faster, and requires a large learning curve.

However, System One does appear to break down and seems very conventinal.

Also you where "wrong" about M105 because you orginally said the abrasives do break down.
 
ZoranC said:
Sometimes it takes to match pad and polish for the things to work right and mismatch can result in issues and this might be one of those. It is my understanding Tom worked hard with Edge guys to come up with perfect match bewteen pad and polish so giving it another try, but this time with pads that come in system, might be in order before dismissing it.

Especially because "show off" videos posted on System One reseller site show no dusting at all even when work was done by noobs.

But they all used system's pads and recommended speed.

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I used the recommended pad and speed as well. The dusting was crazy, but from my experience very soft pads do not work well on Porsche paint (the Edge White pad is very soft) so that could contribute to the holograms.
 
TH0001 said:
I'll post a review about M105 on AGO when the Geek sells it.
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Smart excuse.

TH0001 said:
Also you where "wrong" about M105 because you orginally said the abrasives do break down.
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You mean that typo that I quickly corrected myself on and only then you started informing yourself on M105? Not so good of an excuse like one above.
 
TH0001 said:
I used the recommended pad ...
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I might have been mislead into believing that you did not use recommended pad by your words that you have used "brand new white pad". Somehow I was thinking that implies non-system pad because I thought otherwise you would have said "I used white side of the pad".

I am still confused how you got so much dusting when those absolute noobs that never held any machine before were getting none regardless of which weather conditions they were working under.
 
Thread would probably get closed if someone posted a review of M105. Either way, sounds like thats the way to go. Thanks Todd.
 
D&D Auto Detailing said:
Thread would probably get closed if someone posted a review of M105. Either way, sounds like thats the way to go. Thanks Todd.
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You can post whatever reviews on Meguiars you want, we carry the line and will carry M105, no biggie. What will get this closed is members personally attacking other members. That is unnecessary!
 
ZoranC said:
Smart excuse.


You mean that typo that I quickly corrected myself on and only then you started informing yourself on M105? Not so good of an excuse like one above.
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No excuse...

The typo which took you 3 hours to correct, and only after I responded? Three hours is NOT "quickly" IMO. Why are you following me to different threads anyways? Also, what was your point is asking about M105 on a thread dedicated to System One?
 
ZoranC said:
I might have been mislead into believing that you did not use recommended pad by your words that you have used "brand new white pad". Somehow I was thinking that implies non-system pad because I thought otherwise you would have said "I used white side of the pad".

I am still confused how you got so much dusting when those absolute noobs that never held any machine before were getting none regardless of which weather conditions they were working under.
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I don't think you where mislead (misleading would be mistyping a product discription, then waiting 3 hours to correct it, and in the correction attacking somebody who agreed with your orginal post) at all, I think you jumped to a conclusion with out asking what brand of pad was used.

The System One white pad and the Edge white waffle are the same, so asking the brand would have been more approperiate.

If you are confused you asking the wrong person, as several other posts on this thread have also said the dusting they had was excessive. Since this eliminates my technique as the problem (which I feel was direction in which this statement was going) System One is the company which you should ask. You also know that, which makes your comment insulting, IMO.
 
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