What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

[chilly]

I have never been a big pre-rinser with rinseless, I think mostly because I used to do rinseless only during the winter, and the salt film would just laugh at a pre-rinse (it probably was washing off some grit, but if you let the pre-rinse dry, it would look like you hadn't done anything). Anyway, now I'm more likely to do a pre-rinse, because hey, all the cool kids are doing it. But because you did this, I paid extra attention yesterday as I pre-rinsed with ONRWW 256:1 and....the dirt just ran right off. Granted, I have a pretty fresh coat of sealant on there.

Then I was amused this morning when I found out YouTuber EC Details has started his own store and product line, and sprayed down his car with his own rinseless...which seemed less effective than my ONRWW.

So Pan and now EC huh

I hope Jimbo reviews their product lines




Oh well

I certainly haven't tried all of the newer crop of RW but ONR just keeps working and working, and along with N914 might be all a fella needs

 

[Karl_in_Chicago]

The change of seasons from Summer to Fall was mirrored by the weather here, sunny and 90 yesterday and pouring rain and high 60's this morning when I drove to the car wash. Why? Because I tossed a battery in my '05 Acura RL this week that had been sitting for 5 years, untouched, and wanted to de-grunge it.

After a sponge/bucket quick wash of the windows so I could see out I drove up to my preferred wash station; was surprised to see several other cars there (it was raining cats and dogs here) but still empty enough not to worry about being hassled for bucket washing in the spray-n-wash. Started with the high pressure rinse to get a head start on the thick layer of dust (now gunk from being rained on) then some of the station's built-in soap option then more HP rinse. Opened the bucket I'd brought of Carpro Descale (~ 64:1) and went to town with a grout sponge. Another HP rinse. Sloppy half-hearted drying with the cheapie blue MF towels I get thrown in with my Detailed Image orders; goal wasn't spotless drying but to avoid having standing water prevent the Iron-X from hitting the paint. Then used my IK Foam Pro 2 with Carpro Iron-X to lay down a decon layer; I use the Milwaukee 2848-20 cordless tire inflator that's primary mission is airing up the Bronco tires after being off-road, beats the heck out of the hand pump. While I waited about 5 minutes for the Iron-X to do its stuff I packed up everything else back into the trunk and then hit it again with the HP rinse.

Drove back home staying in center lanes of Lake Shore Drive as the standing water accumulation in the outer lanes was downright dangerous. So the car's hardly clean at this point but "clean enough" that I can do RW washes without need of hose/bucket/PW. I'll be claying and then polishing it in the near future. I'm original owner and it spent first 10+ years parked on city street and rarely hand washed but saw the inside of the dealer's tunnel wash at every service.

No pics, was Sunday morning thing before football and stopped for bagels so got home about 15 minutes before game time.

 

[Uncbrs]

Good to see this back online - really want Tapatalk compatibility back though. Fingers crossed

Spent some weekend time getting ready for Fall. Dropped the Kamikaze D'elegance Ceramic on - I rarely see anyone mention this ceramic and they had it marketed as more of a base for their waxes. I did some light polishing with Zvizzer (good stuff) and then coated. After, I applied the Kamikaze 6.0 Sealant. I may drop a wax on it next week just to see what it adds but it's always fun to see all the Kamikaze products work together. No complaints on the finish either.

I also used Armour Detail Supply Ghost on the tires. It's supposed to be a 3 month tire sealant. Just released about a week ago. First coat was nothing special but the second went on smooth. It also left me with a black film on my application hand so if that's on the tires, should be an interesting test as a marketed tire sealant.

Hopefully the two pictures work. Annoying to have to do extra resizing work without Tapatalk (first world problem)

 

[Optimus Grime]

Did an interior cleaning on my wife’s SUV. She works from home and drives about 3 miles a week yet her back seat always looks like she uses it to moonlight as a food truck owner. The front seats always have splashes of her boutique lotions so it’s a joy to clean.

I started cleaning my interior and got the vacuuming done. I was distracted by the Panther’s game. The last time they played this good I had a hairline. Once I saw that they had the game wrapped up I did a hybrid wash on my Accord. Foamed it down with my last bit of Incredible Suds and did a contact wash with Gyeon Eco Wash. I can’t take EC Detail’s videos but I do like this hybrid wash technique. II can still get in all those nooks and crannies with the pressure washer and remove all the grit and save time by finished with a quick rinseless.

 

[chilly]

Did an interior cleaning on my wife’s SUV. She works from home and drives about 3 miles a week yet her back seat always looks like she uses it to moonlight as a food truck owner. The front seats always have splashes of her boutique lotions so it’s a joy to clean.

I started cleaning my interior and got the vacuuming done. I was distracted by the Panther’s game. The last time they played this good I had a hairline. Once I saw that they had the game wrapped up I did a hybrid wash on my Accord. Foamed it down with my last bit of Incredible Suds and did a contact wash with Gyeon Eco Wash. I can’t take EC Detail’s videos but I do like this hybrid wash technique. II can still get in all those nooks and crannies with the pressure washer and remove all the grit and save time by finished with a quick rinseless.

Can you please expand on this hybrid wash process?

Thx

 

[Optimus Grime]

Can you please expand on this hybrid wash process?

Thx

It’s nothing fancy. I just use my foam cannon and whatever soap is the flavor of the day; Reset or something from BH and use it to knock off all of the grit. Using the pressure washer allows me to really get into places such as the wheel wells and blast off bugs that made my grill their personal cemetery. I also use it to apply HydrO2 to my wheels to give them a nice level of self cleaning. Then I use Eco Wash for my contact wash. I can still get a really deep clean but it shaves about 20-30 minutes off of my wash, depending on how quickly I move. It’s quickly becoming my favorite wash method.

The nice thing is that once I get to the contact wash there’s really no dirt left so I can save my bucket of Eco Wash and use it again the following day on my wife’s SUV.

 

[opie2]

It’s nothing fancy. I just use my foam cannon and whatever soap is the flavor of the day; Reset or something from BH and use it to knock off all of the grit. Using the pressure washer allows me to really get into places such as the wheel wells and blast off bugs that made my grill their personal cemetery. I also use it to apply HydrO2 to my wheels to give them a nice level of self cleaning. Then I use Eco Wash for my contact wash. I can still get a really deep clean but it shaves about 20-30 minutes off of my wash, depending on how quickly I move. It’s quickly becoming my favorite wash method.

The nice thing is that once I get to the contact wash there’s really no dirt left so I can save my bucket of Eco Wash and use it again the following day on my wife’s SUV.

I didnt know that there was a name for the type of wash that ive been doing since i started doing rinseless washes. Just found out its called a hybrid wash lol.

It does save time, i do the one towel per panel rinseless.

 

[Optimus Grime]

It does save time, i do the one towel per panel rinseless.

Invest in the AutoFiber Double Flip rinseless towels. Same methodology but better implementation.

 

[chilly]

It’s nothing fancy. I just use my foam cannon and whatever soap is the flavor of the day; Reset or something from BH and use it to knock off all of the grit. Using the pressure washer allows me to really get into places such as the wheel wells and blast off bugs that made my grill their personal cemetery. I also use it to apply HydrO2 to my wheels to give them a nice level of self cleaning. Then I use Eco Wash for my contact wash. I can still get a really deep clean but it shaves about 20-30 minutes off of my wash, depending on how quickly I move. It’s quickly becoming my favorite wash method.

The nice thing is that once I get to the contact wash there’s really no dirt left so I can save my bucket of Eco Wash and use it again the following day on my wife’s SUV.

I will be studying up on this and I thank you

 

[chilly]

It’s nothing fancy. I just use my foam cannon and whatever soap is the flavor of the day; Reset or something from BH and use it to knock off all of the grit. Using the pressure washer allows me to really get into places such as the wheel wells and blast off bugs that made my grill their personal cemetery. I also use it to apply HydrO2 to my wheels to give them a nice level of self cleaning. Then I use Eco Wash for my contact wash. I can still get a really deep clean but it shaves about 20-30 minutes off of my wash, depending on how quickly I move. It’s quickly becoming my favorite wash method.

The nice thing is that once I get to the contact wash there’s really no dirt left so I can save my bucket of Eco Wash and use it again the following day on my wife’s SUV.

Can I clarify one point?

You are foaming first, then knocking off the foam, bugs, etc with the pressure washer as a step between foaming and the actual rinseless?

 

[Uncbrs]

Can I clarify one point?

You are foaming first, then knocking off the foam, bugs, etc with the pressure washer as a step between foaming and the actual rinseless?

Same question - so it's just about using rinseless as the method instead of a bucket or additional foaming step?

In my case, won't save me much time as getting everything out and set is most of the battle.

Multi-step rinseless (Labo 3 pH) and fewer steps on the traditional washes - kind of funny to see the progression and regression to find the optimum!

 

[Setec Astronomy]

I also used Armour Detail Supply Ghost on the tires. It's supposed to be a 3 month tire sealant. Just released about a week ago. First coat was nothing special but the second went on smooth. It also left me with a black film on my application hand so if that's on the tires, should be an interesting test as a marketed tire sealant.

The marketing for Ghost is really annoying me. It's pretty clear to me from everything I've seen that it's an acrylic tire coating like Tuf Shine, M37, Optimum, Mr. Cartoon...but because it's marketed as a "sealant" people (on YouTube) seem to be amazed that it's completely dry to the touch in 5 minutes (just like every other acrylic tire coating).

Hopefully the two pictures work. Annoying to have to do extra resizing work without Tapatalk (first world problem)

It's funny, I'm on a non-detailing forum that uses a different software, which has the easiest picture uploads ever, just point and click and boom it's there, forum software does all the resizing.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Just to clarify on this "hybrid" washing; you foam cannon, then PW rinse, then go to rinseless?

Multi-step rinseless (Labo 3 pH) and fewer steps on the traditional washes - kind of funny to see the progression and regression to find the optimum!

It's an internet thing (I would say a forum thing, but that's been expanded by Facebook, YouTube, etc.). I would venture to guess that car washing didn't change much from 1950-2000, but because of the internet and forums like these, we've been engaged in a quarter-century crowd-sourced project to develop and optimize best-practice for washing and other elements of detailing...even if that wasn't what we realized we were doing.

 

[Big DaveBig Dave is verified member.]

I have done the hybrid wash before, I may have even called it that, and I would happily do it on the FJ, but not on the Qashqai's soft paint.

I did what might be called a Hybrid Lite wash on the FJ today. Not only is the FJs paint quite hard, it's also well protected, I applied TWHS Graphene Infused Wax on top of the sealants only a week or two back. So I foamed it up with Eclipse Hyper Foam, which works well given the price, then power rinsed it, alot, to be on the safe side.

This is where the "Lite" part of it comes in, I moved it back inside, it was windy and 28C outside so I didn't want it to dry too quickly, and checked that back door which had been the dirtiest part. It was clean, no dust or dirt, the hydrophobics of the paint is excellent at the moment. So I moved straight on to drying, I did the glass first with Carpro Clarify Phobic, then moved onto the paint using TWHS Ceramic Wet Wax, which someone mentioned on a thread here the other day, thumbs up to whoever that was. Results were excellent, I suppose it stands to reason that it would work well with their Graphene Infused Wax. The gloss is excellent. I even dried the wheels with it.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

So Pan and now EC huh

Just to clarify EC's thing is a joint venture between him and Jamie the Cleaner, if I've got that name right.

 

[Uncbrs]

Just to clarify EC's thing is a joint venture between him and Jamie the Cleaner, if I've got that name right.

Their brand is Detail Co. And the pricing is much better.

Pan's Clean brand is pretty expensive for what feels similar to the others already in the market.

Seems like everyone and their cousin is releasing a brand now once they have a YT channel.

 

[Uncbrs]

The marketing for Ghost is really annoying me. It's pretty clear to me from everything I've seen that it's an acrylic tire coating like Tuf Shine, M37, Optimum, Mr. Cartoon...but because it's marketed as a "sealant" people (on YouTube) seem to be amazed that it's completely dry to the touch in 5 minutes (just like every other acrylic tire coating).


It's funny, I'm on a non-detailing forum that uses a different software, which has the easiest picture uploads ever, just point and click and boom it's there, forum software does all the resizing.

Found this on a reply to someone on social media:




GHOST builds on our Tire+ formulation adding on more acrylic resins. It’s sort of a hybrid between a dressing and a coating. Which is why we label it a sealant. Highly chemical and water resistant, forms a dry flexible membrane on rubbers and plastics.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Found this on a reply to someone on social media:

GHOST builds on our Tire+ formulation adding on more acrylic resins. It’s sort of a hybrid between a dressing and a coating. Which is why we label it a sealant. Highly chemical and water resistant, forms a dry flexible membrane on rubbers and plastics.

Well, that's interesting. I might be interested in trying that if I didn't have a quart of Optimum Gelcoat Restorer, which I have been using as a tire coating for some years now (it's seems to be just the same, or close enough, to the OPT Tire Protection & Coating). I still have a bottle of the black Turtle Wax coating, that I use for the backs, so I think I'm set for the rest of this decade.

 

[chilly]

Just to clarify EC's thing is a joint venture between him and Jamie the Cleaner, if I've got that name right.

I appreciate the info, but I am just about saturated and my attention span for all these new lines is about gone

The Guz said whatever the last risneless he reviewed was going to be the last one he WOULD review this year; essentially saying he was tired of it

That is where I am right now with all these new brands

I quit watching Pan several years back, I can't watch EC, I watched one Jamie video and I don't even remember what it was about

If it isn't Sandro and Carcraft I probably won't watch it and I definitely won't run out and buy yet another bunch of stuff I will just look at on the shelf for the next however many years

 

[chilly]

I have done the hybrid wash before, I may have even called it that, and I would happily do it on the FJ, but not on the Qashqai's soft paint.

I did what might be called a Hybrid Lite wash on the FJ today. Not only is the FJs paint quite hard, it's also well protected, I applied TWHS Graphene Infused Wax on top of the sealants only a week or two back. So I foamed it up with Eclipse Hyper Foam, which works well given the price, then power rinsed it, alot, to be on the safe side.
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This is where the "Lite" part of it comes in, I moved it back inside, it was windy and 28C outside so I didn't want it to dry too quickly, and checked that back door which had been the dirtiest part. It was clean, no dust or dirt, the hydrophobics of the paint is excellent at the moment. So I moved straight on to drying, I did the glass first with Carpro Clarify Phobic, then moved onto the paint using TWHS Ceramic Wet Wax, which someone mentioned on a thread here the other day, thumbs up to whoever that was. Results were excellent, I suppose it stands to reason that it would work well with their Graphene Infused Wax. The gloss is excellent. I even dried the wheels with it.
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So this time around there wasn't even a rinseless component, just the foam and PW rinse?